krackdagawd
Inspire.
never...you were lucky breh...we will bet again in the near future
gary russell #1 featherweight
Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.
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the bolded..i mentioned this..that he would be tougher than berto...but they don't hear me though
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
boxing on tonight ? 
lamont roach jr and few other prospects fighting .promoted by goldenboy.
also wilder claims someone from povetkin's camp tipped him off about his steroid usage....weird.
http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/articles/21072-deontay-wilder-doubles-down-on-povetkin-peds-talk
lamont roach jr and few other prospects fighting .promoted by goldenboy.also wilder claims someone from povetkin's camp tipped him off about his steroid usage....weird.
http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/articles/21072-deontay-wilder-doubles-down-on-povetkin-peds-talk
so I saw the Corrie Sanders post, RIP,and decided to watch the Wlad fight again
can we please give him props for coming out to this song? against the heavily favored champion, in germany, bouncing along to fukking right said fred? and he won ?
i can see why he picked that song
can we please give him props for coming out to this song? against the heavily favored champion, in germany, bouncing along to fukking right said fred? and he won ?
i can see why he picked that song
boxing on tonight ?
also wilder claims someone from povetkin's camp tipped him off about his steroid usage....weird.
http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/articles/21072-deontay-wilder-doubles-down-on-povetkin-peds-talk
Yes, Boxing is on
Yall brehs gonna have to use the thread I made for this stuff
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-rings-monthly-boxing-tv-schedules-june-2015.306838/
Im negging everyone who asks this question from now on... @patscorpio will too
Cotto and GGG like a year apart look at their resumes and look at who gets called a coward
But but but GGG likes big drama show
TheBeigeBomber
#Fukkery
imagine how good corrie sanders would have been if he boxed full time
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
Yes, Boxing is on
Yall brehs gonna have to use the thread I made for this stuff
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-rings-monthly-boxing-tv-schedules-june-2015.306838/
Im negging everyone who asks this question from now on... @patscorpio will too
breh i already knew its sarcasm . lol
They can still make $$$ off Vic
Fight a can in December
2016
Another Can
Rematch Collazo
Rematch Lopez
All very winable fights...the Lopez fight can headline a Spike or afternoon Card
By early 2017 you'd have Ortiz coming off 5 straight Ws....Avenged 2 of his Ls N ready for a big fight with whoever at 147
This idiots Swag would be off the charts at that point
This is an excellent blueprint, but Vic would still find a way to mess this up. I do wish he was in the mix. Very entertaining fighter.
Part of being a good fighter that we overlook is beating who you are suppose to beat. He's just not reliable to sweep that schedule.
Ortiz is the type of guy to beat some of the top WW's & lose to anyone. It would not be farfetched to see Ortiz beat a Porter or a Khan & then turn around & lose to an old Jose Luis Castillo or some WW not even in the top 100.
Absolutely amazing.
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
Kronk's Owner Details Whitaker's Camacho Encounter
This story has been told before, about an 18-year-old amateur from Norfolk named Pernell Whitaker who scrapped with World Boxing Council super featherweight champion Hector "Macho" Camacho in Detroit in 1984.
Most of the stories were told second or third hand about Whitaker embarrassing the world champion. Some of the stories involved the owner of the gymnasium chasing Camacho and then-trainer, Billy Giles, out of the gymnasium with a gun.
Emanuel Steward, owner of Kronk's Gym in Detroit, was there.
"I'm the only one who can tell you the real story because, except for a few fighters and handlers, I'm the only one who saw it," Steward said Thursday.
Steward, whose World Boxing Organization light-heavyweight champion, Michael Moorer, fights on a card Saturday night at the Convention Center at Trump Plaza featuring Camacho against Vinny Pazienza and Whitaker against Freddie Pendleton, said the Norfolk amateur embarrassed the champion.
"Some Americans on the 1984 Olympic team were training at my gym," said Steward, "and Whitaker came to Detroit to see his Olympic teammates.
"Camacho was training for a fight against a left-hander, and I suggested that maybe Whitaker, being a lefty, might want to go a few rounds with Camacho and help him get ready."
Steward said there were about 10 people in the gym that day, including Mark Breland and Meldrick Taylor, Whitaker's teammates on the Olympic team and both current world champions. He said everybody stopped what they were doing to watch the sparring session.
"Whitaker wasn't warmed up ..." Steward said, "but he beat the hell out of Camacho for three rounds. He beat up on the Macho Man, Hector couldn't touch him.
"Camacho and Giles were embarrassed and really mad."
When the bell rang after the third and final round, Whitaker turned his back and prepared to exit the ring.
"Giles told Hector to go get Whitaker," said Steward. "Hector grabbed him around the head from behind, held his head under a rope and tried to hit him.
"We had enough fighters around to break it up, but things got ugly after that. Giles and I had a lot of bad words, and he and I almost got into it right there in the ring."
Steward said that, counter to rumors, he never pulled a gun from his office to get Giles and Camacho to leave his gym.
"No, no gun was ever used," said Steward. "It was just a case of they were embarrassed because Whitaker beat the crap out of a world champion."
Whitaker, who will defend his WBC and International Boxing Federation title against Pendleton, didn't want to talk about the incident, but he did say he turned down an offer to spar with Camacho last week.
"Camacho asked `why don't you spar with me,'" said Whitaker. "I said `I'm here to fight Freddie Pendleton and that's it."
Dan Duva, Whitaker's promoter, said it's unlikely the two would ever meet in the ring. Camacho, the WBO junior welterweight (142 pounds) champion, may move up to the welterweight division. And Whitaker is comfortable in the 135-pound lightweight division.
"They will never fight," said Steward, "but Whitaker would beat him again."
Just like he did six years ago.
Kronk's Owner Details Whitaker's Camacho Encounter
I heard Karma got Sweet Pea back....some amateur kid named Pretty Boy gave Pea that work in sparring
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
low key this fight might be great...better than main even....
mr heyzel
All Star
Half time report – Boxing in 2015 so far
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By Gav Duthie: The first six months of 2015 have went past in the blink of an eye but it has been action packed in the world of boxing.
The year previous had been somewhat disappointing with many potential fights passing us by and lots of controversial decisions. For me 2015 has started brighter despite the this era’s fight of the century (Mayweather v Pacquaio) failing to ignite. Lets look so far at my personal highlights and debate the results as well as looking onto to the back end of the year.
A changing landscape
Al Haymon has went from one of the big players in 2014 to boxing kingpin in 2015. To his credit whether you like what he is doing or not he is changing things. There has been more boxing on terrestrial television and the worry that his fighters would only face one another has been dismissed. Eddie Hearn in the UK has found him easy to work with and he has such a big stable we have already seen some great fights like Broner v Porter and Garcia v Peterson which were for no titles. These kind of bouts would be difficult to make in the past. De La Hoya and Bob Arum have been working together to bridge the gap making some good fights like Matthyse v Provodnikov. Ok so boxing politics isn’t perfect and it never will be but there are certainly causes for optimism.
Best fight – Omar Figueroa W UD 12 Ricky Burns
One of my most anticipated fights of the current scene was a showdown with Lucas Matthyse and Ruslan Provodnikov. In 2014 the differences seemed irreconcilable between Golden Boy and Top Rank. The departure of Schafer made for a better relationship between supremo’s Oscar De La Hoya and Bob Arum. The fight was decent but Matthysse was just too good for me to make it a classic. The Russian Rocky was game and landed plenty of big shots hurting the Argentinian but for the most part Matthysse boxed and moved. As a result for me the Figueroa-Burns war was the most captivated i’ve been this year. It was a proper popcorn fight to just sit back and enjoy with hardly a backward step by either fighter. Figueroa got the win and Burns earned plenty of respect also.
Best knockout – Zolani Tete W KO 7 Paul Butler
There will likely be some disagreements here but this was my personal favorite. It wasn’t a fight I was expecting to end in a knockout being at Super Flyweight and at world level. It was all there for Butler to win. He was the star, the hometown favorite and had already won a world title in the bantamweight division. With Tete having lost three times Frank Warren would have seen this as a safe route. As Butler was firing in behind on the cards Tete landed a perfect straight left down the middle leaving Butler sprawling on the canvas. Canelo v Kirkland also gets a mention. The feint to the body and big right hand was reminiscent of Hearns against Duran.
Best story – Deontay Wilder champion
Personally the return of Kell Brook after a career threatening injury was my favourite but an American winning a heavyweight crown was great for the sport. The ratings for the Wilder-Stiverne fight and Klitschko-Jennings show that heavyweight is still king if the product is there. Deontay didn’t look great in his first defence against Molina but on the night he won the title it seemed all the potential was real as he outboxed a tough champion. For the sake of the future popularity of the sport we need a big heavyweight division post Mayweather so guys like Wilder, Joshua and Parker to step up.
Biggest upset – Badou Jack W UD 12 Anthony Dirrell
It’s not that we considered Anthony Dirrell to be a great champion it was more that why was Jack getting a title shot in the first place. Anthony tried to take an easy voluntary avoiding George Groves and the Swede fit the bill. Jack had been knocked out in only 1 round against B-level contender Derek Edwards. On the night though Jack was a worthy winner, he was fitter, stronger and pushed Dirrell back the entire fight.
Controversial decision – Danny Garcia W MD 12 Lamont Peterson
Their have probably been worse, last weekends between Wade and Soliman was pretty bad but at the highest level the Garcia-Peterson decision was very poor. Danny ‘Swift’ Garcia has flattered to deceive in his last few outings and most thought Peterson dominated especially in the second half of the fight. He raised the tempo in the later rounds and perhaps took the wrong decision to jab and move in the beginning but you would have had to score all the early action for Garcia to justify a win. Garcia has now decided to move up to 147lbs and faces Paulie Maliggnaggi on August 1 with no dates or opponents lined up for Peterson.
Biggest disappointment – Floyd Mayweather WUD12 Manny Pacquaio
The eyes of the world were once again on this fight with the spotlight on boxing once again. Many have spoken about the demise of the sport with the influx of MMA/UFC etc and a great fight between the best two pound for pound fighters of the last decade was the way to change that. The bout failed to provide the spark and many casual fans would have been turned off boxing once again. For me and the hardcore boxing fan it was still a defining moment. Mayweather needed this win for his legacy and by the end of the fight he showed us there was no need for all the fuss. He is the best and nobody else comes close. In time he should gain more respect from the historians but boxing in general took a hit that night.
Best prospect – Errol Spence Jnr
The heavyweight duo from opposite ends of the planet Anthony Joshua and Joseph Parker are making a big name for themselves. Both are soaring up the rankings especially the WBC with Wilder firmly in their sights. The best prospect for me so far in 2015, however, is Errol Spence Jnr. He has stepped up in class this year already and Floyd Mayweather Jnr is looking for him to step up again. He faced Sammy Vargas in April and Phil Lo Greco in June. Both had only lost one fight previously but Spence made it look easy with 4th and 3rd round knockouts respectively. Mayweather wants him to face Thurman or Porter in September but whatever he does he looks like a top class fighter.
Fighter so far – Gennady Golovkin
Again in 2015 the key to Golovkin’s success is a high level of activity. He is one of the few top fighters to have already fought twice this year. As of yet he is still chasing the big names but has added the scalps of Martin Murray and Willie Munroe Jnr to his already impressive resume. Their has been some criticism from certain quarters about the amount of punches he has taken in these last two fights but he never looks hurt and he continues to get the victories by stoppage. Next up looks to be Tureano Johnson. Any chance of a big showdown with Cotto or Canelo will have to wait until 2016.
The rest of 2015
So what would make 2015 the perfect year for boxing. Here is some of my wish list.
Floyd Mayweather v Kell Brook – Amir Khan keeps saying I’m not giving Brook a payday and he is practically stalking Mayweather. I’m surprised Floyd hasn’t issued a restraining order. It would be hilarious if he chose Brook over Khan.
Anthony Crolla to win a world title – Crolla fractured his skull during the Christmas period and feared his career would be over on the eve of his title shot against Richar Abril. Only 6 months later he is back fighting for the same title although the opponent is now Darleys Perez. It would be a great story if he could win.
The biggest fights – It would have to be Cotto v Canelo and Kovalev v Stevenson. I think the former might happen but in the light heavyweight division the man that seems to be making the most noise at present is Artur Beterbiev.
No return for Oscar – Perhaps he fancies a return to the heavyweight division. He is unfit, out of shape and looked terrible 7 years ago. He is still a big fan favourite and doesn’t need the money so I hope he does not return.
Carl Froch decision – Getting a bit fed up of his ‘should I stay or should I go now’. He needs to either fight Golovkin or get on with retiring.
A big fight for Andre Ward – It was great to see one of the best fighters in the sport in the ring again. He proved ring rust was minimal but we would love to see him face a big name at 168 or 175lbs.
*** So what is everyone else’s list and wishes for the second half of 2015 ***
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The year previous had been somewhat disappointing with many potential fights passing us by and lots of controversial decisions. For me 2015 has started brighter despite the this era’s fight of the century (Mayweather v Pacquaio) failing to ignite. Lets look so far at my personal highlights and debate the results as well as looking onto to the back end of the year.
A changing landscape
Al Haymon has went from one of the big players in 2014 to boxing kingpin in 2015. To his credit whether you like what he is doing or not he is changing things. There has been more boxing on terrestrial television and the worry that his fighters would only face one another has been dismissed. Eddie Hearn in the UK has found him easy to work with and he has such a big stable we have already seen some great fights like Broner v Porter and Garcia v Peterson which were for no titles. These kind of bouts would be difficult to make in the past. De La Hoya and Bob Arum have been working together to bridge the gap making some good fights like Matthyse v Provodnikov. Ok so boxing politics isn’t perfect and it never will be but there are certainly causes for optimism.
Best fight – Omar Figueroa W UD 12 Ricky Burns
One of my most anticipated fights of the current scene was a showdown with Lucas Matthyse and Ruslan Provodnikov. In 2014 the differences seemed irreconcilable between Golden Boy and Top Rank. The departure of Schafer made for a better relationship between supremo’s Oscar De La Hoya and Bob Arum. The fight was decent but Matthysse was just too good for me to make it a classic. The Russian Rocky was game and landed plenty of big shots hurting the Argentinian but for the most part Matthysse boxed and moved. As a result for me the Figueroa-Burns war was the most captivated i’ve been this year. It was a proper popcorn fight to just sit back and enjoy with hardly a backward step by either fighter. Figueroa got the win and Burns earned plenty of respect also.
Best knockout – Zolani Tete W KO 7 Paul Butler
There will likely be some disagreements here but this was my personal favorite. It wasn’t a fight I was expecting to end in a knockout being at Super Flyweight and at world level. It was all there for Butler to win. He was the star, the hometown favorite and had already won a world title in the bantamweight division. With Tete having lost three times Frank Warren would have seen this as a safe route. As Butler was firing in behind on the cards Tete landed a perfect straight left down the middle leaving Butler sprawling on the canvas. Canelo v Kirkland also gets a mention. The feint to the body and big right hand was reminiscent of Hearns against Duran.
Best story – Deontay Wilder champion
Personally the return of Kell Brook after a career threatening injury was my favourite but an American winning a heavyweight crown was great for the sport. The ratings for the Wilder-Stiverne fight and Klitschko-Jennings show that heavyweight is still king if the product is there. Deontay didn’t look great in his first defence against Molina but on the night he won the title it seemed all the potential was real as he outboxed a tough champion. For the sake of the future popularity of the sport we need a big heavyweight division post Mayweather so guys like Wilder, Joshua and Parker to step up.
Biggest upset – Badou Jack W UD 12 Anthony Dirrell
It’s not that we considered Anthony Dirrell to be a great champion it was more that why was Jack getting a title shot in the first place. Anthony tried to take an easy voluntary avoiding George Groves and the Swede fit the bill. Jack had been knocked out in only 1 round against B-level contender Derek Edwards. On the night though Jack was a worthy winner, he was fitter, stronger and pushed Dirrell back the entire fight.
Controversial decision – Danny Garcia W MD 12 Lamont Peterson
Their have probably been worse, last weekends between Wade and Soliman was pretty bad but at the highest level the Garcia-Peterson decision was very poor. Danny ‘Swift’ Garcia has flattered to deceive in his last few outings and most thought Peterson dominated especially in the second half of the fight. He raised the tempo in the later rounds and perhaps took the wrong decision to jab and move in the beginning but you would have had to score all the early action for Garcia to justify a win. Garcia has now decided to move up to 147lbs and faces Paulie Maliggnaggi on August 1 with no dates or opponents lined up for Peterson.
Biggest disappointment – Floyd Mayweather WUD12 Manny Pacquaio
The eyes of the world were once again on this fight with the spotlight on boxing once again. Many have spoken about the demise of the sport with the influx of MMA/UFC etc and a great fight between the best two pound for pound fighters of the last decade was the way to change that. The bout failed to provide the spark and many casual fans would have been turned off boxing once again. For me and the hardcore boxing fan it was still a defining moment. Mayweather needed this win for his legacy and by the end of the fight he showed us there was no need for all the fuss. He is the best and nobody else comes close. In time he should gain more respect from the historians but boxing in general took a hit that night.
Best prospect – Errol Spence Jnr
The heavyweight duo from opposite ends of the planet Anthony Joshua and Joseph Parker are making a big name for themselves. Both are soaring up the rankings especially the WBC with Wilder firmly in their sights. The best prospect for me so far in 2015, however, is Errol Spence Jnr. He has stepped up in class this year already and Floyd Mayweather Jnr is looking for him to step up again. He faced Sammy Vargas in April and Phil Lo Greco in June. Both had only lost one fight previously but Spence made it look easy with 4th and 3rd round knockouts respectively. Mayweather wants him to face Thurman or Porter in September but whatever he does he looks like a top class fighter.
Fighter so far – Gennady Golovkin
Again in 2015 the key to Golovkin’s success is a high level of activity. He is one of the few top fighters to have already fought twice this year. As of yet he is still chasing the big names but has added the scalps of Martin Murray and Willie Munroe Jnr to his already impressive resume. Their has been some criticism from certain quarters about the amount of punches he has taken in these last two fights but he never looks hurt and he continues to get the victories by stoppage. Next up looks to be Tureano Johnson. Any chance of a big showdown with Cotto or Canelo will have to wait until 2016.
The rest of 2015
So what would make 2015 the perfect year for boxing. Here is some of my wish list.
Floyd Mayweather v Kell Brook – Amir Khan keeps saying I’m not giving Brook a payday and he is practically stalking Mayweather. I’m surprised Floyd hasn’t issued a restraining order. It would be hilarious if he chose Brook over Khan.
Anthony Crolla to win a world title – Crolla fractured his skull during the Christmas period and feared his career would be over on the eve of his title shot against Richar Abril. Only 6 months later he is back fighting for the same title although the opponent is now Darleys Perez. It would be a great story if he could win.
The biggest fights – It would have to be Cotto v Canelo and Kovalev v Stevenson. I think the former might happen but in the light heavyweight division the man that seems to be making the most noise at present is Artur Beterbiev.
No return for Oscar – Perhaps he fancies a return to the heavyweight division. He is unfit, out of shape and looked terrible 7 years ago. He is still a big fan favourite and doesn’t need the money so I hope he does not return.
Carl Froch decision – Getting a bit fed up of his ‘should I stay or should I go now’. He needs to either fight Golovkin or get on with retiring.
A big fight for Andre Ward – It was great to see one of the best fighters in the sport in the ring again. He proved ring rust was minimal but we would love to see him face a big name at 168 or 175lbs.
*** So what is everyone else’s list and wishes for the second half of 2015 ***