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[Amare's Right Hook]

"This arm used to be bigger than this arm, I can't tell you why though."

I love how Freddie trolls the s-hit out of journalists and they can't even pick up on his dry humor.

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

Yamanaka beats Diego Santillan via 7th round TKO to retain his WBC Batamweight title. A nice two piece combo.

 

[krackdagawd]

#SOGGang season has returned

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

#SOGGang season has returned

pretty cool that cam'ron allowed the SOG to use his pool.

 

[patscorpio]

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) Apr. 7, 2015 at 8:44am
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[krackdagawd]

pretty cool that cam'ron allowed the SOG to use his pool.

#SOGGang coming out in all pink jordan brand gear the 20th

 

[krackdagawd]

Decent article on why PBC is a succes so far.

In the NBC Saturday prime time slot they are up an average of 190% in the 18-49 demo. NBC sports execs are apparently happy.





Al Haymon still pulling all the strings as boxing's unknown czar

One of the most familiar phrases in boxing news coverage these days is, "Al Haymon doesn't speak to the media."

Boxing is going through a renaissance of sorts, and Haymon is at the forefront of it. The owner of the Las Vegas-based Haymon Boxing, he created the Premier Boxing Champions series that has brought the sport back onto network television.

PBC cards are broadcast in prime time on NBC and also appear, or soon will, on CBS, Spike, ABC, ESPN, NBC Sports Network and CBS Sports Network. So far, the fights have been of high quality and have gotten better than expected ratings.

The PBC's debut in prime time on NBC on March 7 became the most-watched boxing telecast since an Oscar De La Hoya card on Fox in 1998. It averaged 3.4 million viewers, peaked at 4.2 million and, perhaps most significantly, won the coveted 18-to-49-year-old demographic on broadcast television.

The second NBC prime time show, on Saturday from Brooklyn, was also a success, though not as overwhelming as the original show. It finished second on network television behind a NASCAR race on Fox in the 18-49 demographic.

It averaged 2.9 million viewers and peaked at 3.4 million. According to NBC, ratings were up 162 percent overall and 190 percent in the 18-49 demographic compared to the afternoon series that was on NBC from 2012-2014.

The PBC on NBC is 54 percent ahead of the rest of broadcast television in the 18-49 demographic for its two shows.

"Just to even be in the conversation with a property like NASCAR is incredible for us," said Lou Ferrer, the director of programming acquisitions for NBC Sports.

Yet some fellow promoters blast Haymon's efforts. Media has dogged him for his "time buys," as if something were wrong with putting quality fights on free broadcast television. Fans, particularly the hard-core ones, have blamed him for virtually every problem facing the sport.

UFC president Dana White, though, raved about what Haymon has done. White said the fact that Haymon raised money and is using it to put on high-quality events demonstrates an interest in the long-term future of the sport.

White has long been critical of boxing promoters for what he said has been siphoning off profits and not investing back into the business. He also criticized them for the lack of in-arena experience and said many of their "new" ideas were simply stolen from what the UFC has done.

Haymon raised a reported $100 million to fund the PBC, which White thinks is an example of desperately needed unconventional thinking in boxing.

"The product hasn't changed much at all for years and all of these [promoters] have taken and taken and not put a penny back into growing the business," White said. "I think what Haymon is doing is fantastic. He's done a few things I wouldn't do, but I don't want to criticize him because he's investing in the business and planning for growth."

Haymon advises more than 150 boxers, who in the ring after their fights on television routinely and almost comically thank God and then Haymon for their success. A popular meme among boxing fans is the hashtag #ThankYouAlHaymon.

The most prominent of his fighters is Floyd Mayweather, and Haymon's business savvy and shrewd advice played a large role in Mayweather's rise to iconic status in his sport.

Mayweather fights Manny Pacquiao on May 2 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas in a bout in which both men will make in excess of $100 million.

But Haymon is perceived to be the man behind the curtain even by those most closely involved. Top Rank CEO Bob Arum, who promotes Pacquiao, has been irate because a contract has not been completed with the MGM to host the Mayweather-Pacquiao bout.

He suggests that it is Haymon behind the strings manipulating things, causing the delays.

"This whole thing is a ticket play by Haymon," Arum said of the fact that tickets are still not on sale and a contract with the MGM is not finished despite the fight being less than three weeks away.

Mayweather Promotions CEO Leonard Ellerbe, though, insists Arum is mistaken and said that Haymon has nothing to do with when tickets go on sale, the MGM contract or any of a myriad of other issues between the two companies promoting the fight.

Those are all his jobs as CEO of Mayweather Promotions, and Haymon is not involved in them. Ellerbe is clearly devoted to Mayweather and has given nearly 20 years of his life to growing Mayweather's brand as well as his company.
Haymon's involvement with Mayweather Promotions is routinely portrayed incorrectly in the media, Ellerbe said.

"Al doesn't have a thing to do with this company," Ellerbe said. "He's Floyd's adviser. He has done a great job advising Floyd, as he has done a great job helping a lot of other fighters, as well. He's the best at getting guys the most [money].

"But I'm the one running Mayweather Promotions. He's not involved in it. I was in [MGM executive] Richard Sturm's office for six hours last week, not Al."

Haymon, who has an economics degree from Harvard, is a polite and agreeable sort whose business strategy includes never speaking to the media.

There is a sense of paranoia around his employees when they engage with the media. They're not allowed to discuss even the most minute of details without first checking with the boss.

His mysterious ways have led to many incomplete or inaccurate portrayals of him, those close to him say.

And he's an easy target for some media members to attack since he doesn't fire back. He doesn't speak publicly when he's happy and he doesn't speak publicly when he's angry.

When he chose not to speak to the media to explain his vision for the PBC and for returning boxing to prominence via network television, it allowed some of his competitors to chip away at him.

Both Top Rank president Todd duBoef and Main Events CEO Kathy Duva blasted Haymon for the time buys.

They have argued strenuously that Haymon is making it difficult, if not impossible, for other promoters to operate by what they believe is giving the product away.

Buying the airtime instead of having a network pay a rights fee to acquire it will have a chilling affect on the industry, they said. No matter the success of the PBC, they insist, networks will no longer be willing to pay for boxing if there is someone like Haymon willing to give it away.

However, it should be noted that Top Rank landed a deal with cable outlet TruTV after the PBC had debuted.

One source with knowledge of Haymon's operation spoke with Yahoo Sports on the guarantee of anonymity because he's not authorized to speak to media. He said that even if networks won't buy fights in the future, there is essentially no difference between obtaining the money from investors or obtaining it from a television network. The fights will still go on, the fighters will be paid and tickets will still be sold.

Promoter Lou DiBella called himself thrilled with his first effort at promoting a PBC show. He promoted the doubleheader on NBC in Brooklyn on Saturday, which drew a little more than 12,000 fans with a $1 million paid gate.

The ratings were good, which is the case for all PBC shows. Spike's first effort, on March 13, more than doubled the ratings ESPN2 usually gets in that same time slot on a Friday night.

CBS showed a bout on a Saturday noon on April 4, attracting 1.3 million viewers, which is roughly the audience a very successful HBO card would get in prime time.

"It attracted a much younger audience and did well with a demographic that had been said had tuned out boxing," DiBella said. "In both of the shows [in prime time on NBC] to this point, the demo has done very well."

Haymon, of course, isn't available to talk about it. Or to talk about the Mayweather fight. Or to talk about anything else going on in boxing.

He's the most powerful man in the sport, but he's not going to share his thoughts with the public for any reason. Every scrap of information he provides is on a need-to-know basis only. The president of the United States is more accountable than Haymon.

Ferrer, though, isn't complaining. Known as Luis Barragan when he was an executive at HBO Sports, Ferrer said the PBC is clearly a viable property for NBC.

"Every way you could possibly look at this, the raw numbers, the key demographics, whatever, the PBC is an unmitigated success," Ferrer said. " … This is a real, powerful property for us, no question about it."

Boxing is in the midst of a rebirth, and Haymon has played a large role in it.

Just don't expect to hear a word from him about it.

@ Dana White talking about promoters taking and not giving back when the ring card hoes make more than his fighters.

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

 

[mr heyzel]

aidana rules out future Pacquiao fight, wants to welcome Garcia to 147lbs
Phil D Jay
16 April 2015

Credit: Tom Casino

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    Hardened Argentinian puncher Marcos Maidana isn't confident of landing a fight with Manny Pacquiao should the Filipino lose against Floyd Mayweather on May 2 and has instead set his sights on avenging compatriot Lucas Matthysse's loss to Danny Garica.
    
    The 31 year-old has taken an extended break from the sport since being defeated twice by pound for pound king Mayweather in 2014 as Maidana prepares to tie the knot with fiancé Mariana later this month.
    
    Reflecting on his performances against Mayweather, the first one of which he was highly praised for, Maidana was very honest in his assessment as 'Chino' weighs up what will be a very important next step in his career later this year.
    
    "I think it was a great experience," Maidana told World Boxing News.
    
    "Before the first fight almost nobody would give me any chance, not only to win the fight, but to win more than three rounds. I proved that I have what it take to fight at the very highest level, but am I happy with that? - No.
    
    "Mayweather has proven to be the best fighter in the last few decades so I'm not going to be that tough on myself - just because I couldn't beat the best.
    
    "I have always said that any boxer always works in his career to face the best names like Mayweather and also Pacquiao, not just boxing-wise but economically-wise. Real fighters want to try themselves against the very best amd I am no different. However, I don't think a fight with Manny would happen even if he lost to Mayweather.
    
    "Danny Garcia is the one I want. I've already said that a few months ago, but now Danny has been criticized about his win against Peterson. I enjoy facing fighters that not only like to box but also to engage and don't run that much. Danny is one of them. He fights and I fight so it would be an entertaining bout for the fans.
    
    "On top of that, Danny beat my fellow countryman Lucas Matthysse and I want to avenge that for my country. I would give Garcia a nice welcome to the welterweight division if he doesn't rematch Peterson," he added.
    
    Another option for Maidana could well be a second fight with Adrien Broner, whom he dominated the first time they met in December 2013, as 'The Problem' has made a successful comeback and is known to harbour hopes of his own revenge.
    
    Maidana may have to wait until Broner fulfils his dream of becoming a four-weight world champion down at 140lbs first, but that fight is certainly one that would engage the fans attention whether it happens again this year or next.
    
    

 

[krackdagawd]

According the coli Pacman is food for Maidana, seems to me Maidana is being smart here :cmsas2:

 

[mr heyzel]

sounds like a duck move not to fight keith thurman lol

Floyd Mayweather: I’m Tired of Boxing, it’s not Fun Anymore

April 15th, 2015 | Post Comment - 106 Comments
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By Raj Parmar: Boxing pound for pound number one fighter in the world Floyd Mayweather is adamant that he will retire from the sport this year after he concludes his fight with rival Manny Pacquiao and one more fight in September. He cites his reason of walking away due to his growing disenchantment with the sport.

“I’m pretty much done with all this, it’s not fun like it was back then,” Floyd stated during his media workout yesterday, “It’s business now. I don’t really enjoy it any longer.”

At 38 years old, the health conscious Mayweather is hovering around the age where it makes sense for a fighter to consider hanging up the gloves. However if Floyd is already not enjoying the sport as he heads into the biggest fight of his career, it may play a factor in his super fight with Manny.

A once in a lifetime matchup and event like this requires a little extra push physically, mentally and spiritually from each fighter to pull out a win. If Floyd already feels less than thrilled with boxing as a whole, it may imply that he is just going through the regular motions in training. This may have worked against lesser fighters such as Marcos Maidana and Robert Guerrero, but against another top pound for pound fighter something a little extra internally may be required to get a decisive win.

In Muhammad Ali’s third fight with Joe Frazier, known famously as the Thrilla in Manila, both men even in the advanced stages of their careers brought an added element into the ring that night in addition to just their regular skill set. Without that added internal boost of energy coming from each of their burning fires to prove they were the best in boxing, Ali would not have been able to overcome Frazier and Frazier would not have taken Ali to “the brink of death” as Ali himself had put it.

Mayweather may likely need this fire to burn in him as well on May 2 in order to take down Pacquiao who, just like Ali and Frazier, is coming to prove that he is the best in boxing.

 

[L68]

those cm punk smilies should replace the screamin a smith ones as official

 

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aidana rules out future Pacquiao fight, wants to welcome Garcia to 147lbs
Phil D Jay
16 April 2015

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    Hardened Argentinian puncher Marcos Maidana isn't confident of landing a fight with Manny Pacquiao should the Filipino lose against Floyd Mayweather on May 2 and has instead set his sights on avenging compatriot Lucas Matthysse's loss to Danny Garica.
    
    The 31 year-old has taken an extended break from the sport since being defeated twice by pound for pound king Mayweather in 2014 as Maidana prepares to tie the knot with fiancé Mariana later this month.
    
    Reflecting on his performances against Mayweather, the first one of which he was highly praised for, Maidana was very honest in his assessment as 'Chino' weighs up what will be a very important next step in his career later this year.
    
    "I think it was a great experience," Maidana told World Boxing News.
    
    "Before the first fight almost nobody would give me any chance, not only to win the fight, but to win more than three rounds. I proved that I have what it take to fight at the very highest level, but am I happy with that? - No.
    
    "Mayweather has proven to be the best fighter in the last few decades so I'm not going to be that tough on myself - just because I couldn't beat the best.
    
    "I have always said that any boxer always works in his career to face the best names like Mayweather and also Pacquiao, not just boxing-wise but economically-wise. Real fighters want to try themselves against the very best amd I am no different. However, I don't think a fight with Manny would happen even if he lost to Mayweather.
    
    "Danny Garcia is the one I want. I've already said that a few months ago, but now Danny has been criticized about his win against Peterson. I enjoy facing fighters that not only like to box but also to engage and don't run that much. Danny is one of them. He fights and I fight so it would be an entertaining bout for the fans.
    
    "On top of that, Danny beat my fellow countryman Lucas Matthysse and I want to avenge that for my country. I would give Garcia a nice welcome to the welterweight division if he doesn't rematch Peterson," he added.
    
    Another option for Maidana could well be a second fight with Adrien Broner, whom he dominated the first time they met in December 2013, as 'The Problem' has made a successful comeback and is known to harbour hopes of his own revenge.
    
    Maidana may have to wait until Broner fulfils his dream of becoming a four-weight world champion down at 140lbs first, but that fight is certainly one that would engage the fans attention whether it happens again this year or next.
    

Chino is exactly what Swift needs

Underdog Swift thats a scary site

 

[LeVraiPapi]

@my heyzel Floyd ducking Thurman ?

Dude everybody wanna fight FLoyd bro. The exposure and the money are exponential factors. Heck, I would fight Floyd for free on PPV. That's at least 100k in 1 night bro.

Thurman should be focusing on Brooks, Khan, Maidana, Peterson, Porter and all my other wolves in WW. He ain't no different. Brook would be Floyd's toughest opponent. Heck I wanna see Berto Thurman

 

[JDee323]

@my heyzel Floyd ducking Thurman ?

Dude everybody wanna fight FLoyd bro. The exposure and the money are exponential factors. Heck, I would fight Floyd for free on PPV. That's at least 100k in 1 night bro.

Thurman should be focusing on Brooks, Khan, Maidana, Peterson, Porter and all my other wolves in WW. He ain't no different. Brook would be Floyd's toughest opponent. Heck I wanna see Berto Thurman

what you got against Berto?