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Good thing I read your mind and already posted this:sas2:




Yall #swiftset nikkas need to get out of here blaming everyone else for DANNY GARCIA SIGNING THE CONTRACT TO FIGHT ROD SALKA!:camby:


It doesnt matter if Al Haymon told him to fight Brodus Clay, Garcia has the final say-so on ALL matters relating to him. He agreed to fight him. Haymon can bring 1000 people to the table...the fight doesnt happen unless Swift says "yes" to just 1 of em and signs the contract.


I dont understand what you dont get about that simple fact. Garcia agreed to fight the opponent, he agrees to get the criticism for accepting that opponent.

Stevenson did the same thing. He signed to fight on a date with no opponent named. Had Sho approved any of his opponents.....you think he would turn it down? Of course the fighter has to take the criticism....but dont act like you gonna be in their shoes turning down fights the network has already approved and have the checkbook ready for you.
 

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Danny Garcia thought he was fighting Gabriel Bracero....not TBA. Just because YOU didnt know who Garcia was fighting, doesnt mean HE didnt, because he said it out of his own mouth that's who he was expecting:birdman:


Obviously, your boy was looking towards fighting a bum regardless and that's a fact. He just chose the #77 ranked bum below his division with 3 KOs in 19 wins (Rod Salka) over the #62 ranked bum above his division with 4 KOs in 23 wins. (Gabriel Bracero) when Haymon brought Salka to the table later down the line as an even EASIER touch.


THOSE are facts:ufdup:

whether its Bracero or whoever. Showtime approved and didnt cancel it....like they just did Stevenson. Who has the same manager. But Danny backed Showtime into a corner. OK.
 

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:mjlol: you need more people breh

At least you're man enough to admit the bolded, but we could've all done without all the plea copping

never coppin pleas, just being as real as I can be seeing it from the other side. there is so much shyt going on behind the scenes that none of us even know about. it just aint as simple as ABC123
 

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Stevenson did the same thing. He signed to fight on a date with no opponent named. Had Sho approved any of his opponents.....you think he would turn it down? Of course the fighter has to take the criticism....but dont act like you gonna be in their shoes turning down fights the network has already approved and have the checkbook ready for you.

Im not arguing turning down anything.


I understand it's better to make 750k vs the Rod Salka's of the world than 1.5 mill vs the Lucas Matthysse's of the world....being that Matthysse is a MUCH more dangerous fighter. However, that means nothing when we are discussing the fight from a fan perspective. You are arguing as if you are ACTUALLY a member of DSG Promotions, when you're just a fan of the sport at this time like we all are.


I dont care how much he makes when the Champion is fighting a guy who's closer to being ranked #150 in the world than he is to being ranked #1 in the world......at the division beneath you, and then you drag said fighter up 2 divisions.......and THEN have the nerve to come in the ring as a Junior Middleweight your damn self while said fighter is only at 144lbs.:dead:

That's a parody of boxing and I dont have to accept that, just because it was "an easy night at the office" for Garcia. Why should we?

A Champion should NEVER face an opponent outside of the top 20 imo, unless they were coming off of ring rust, and that's not the case for Danny Garcia who's had a fight in September 2013 and then a fight in March 2014, before fighting Salka in August 2014.

We are arguing 2 different things. You're arguing with boxing fans about the business side of things.....and we dont care, especially when the fighter gets the final say so meaning they agreed to the matchup:manny:


The way you're portraying it, it seems to read to me, that Danny Garcia signed a contract to take on whoever, whenever. Just signed a contract to fight TBA and went up into the hills of the Allegheny Mountains to train hard, eat raw eggs, spar with meat in the freezer, ran the philadelphia library stairs and everything......not caring about who the opponent would be, just that he was "ready to Purge". He was expecting a monster to be waiting for him in the ring on August 9th, only to walk out the Brooklyn Nets dressing room of the Barclays Center, enter the ring, take off is mask, and see Rod Salka standing there:dead:


Nope. He knew what he was doing. Agreed to the fight and by doing so, agreed to accept the criticisms. Al Haymon did his job by getting him the easiest opponent for the most amount of money. Showtime did their job by showing his fight on their network. Garcia gets the blame for taking the fight the same way that Leo Santa Cruz is fighting the local school bus driver himself. Im not gonna blame Haymon for doing his job or Showtime for doing their's. Im gonna throw blame at the fighter that's accepting these parody fights and masquerading around like they had nothing to do with it when they have final say so on everything.
 

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Im not arguing turning down anything.


I understand it's better to make 750k vs the Rod Salka's of the world than 1.5 mill vs the Lucas Matthysse's of the world....being that Matthysse is a MUCH more dangerous fighter. However, that means nothing when we are discussing the fight from a fan perspective. You are arguing as if you are ACTUALLY a member of DSG Promotions, when you're just a fan of the sport at this time like we all are.

quote me where I said anything otherwise as a fan that this fight wasnt garbage. I was the first nikka on here like WTF. I gave you the business side, but what have I always said about the fight from a fan perspective? I'm waiting.

but...question....did you watch the fight live?
 

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quote me where I said anything otherwise as a fan that this fight wasnt garbage. I was the first nikka on here like WTF. I gave you the business side, but what have I always said about the fight from a fan perspective? I'm waiting.

but...question....did you watch the fight live?

Of course I watched the fight live. I watch every fight on Showtime and HBO...I pay for the channels, Im a huge boxing head, so why would I not tune in?
 

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That's a parody of boxing and I dont have to accept that, just because it was "an easy night at the office" for Garcia. Why should we?

Of course I watched the fight live. I watch every fight on Showtime and HBO...I pay for the channels, Im a huge boxing head, so why would I not tune in?

then you accepted it :sas2:
 

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then you accepted it :sas2:

I dont have a Nielson box on my TV and I pay a monthly subscription to Showtime....my viewing off the fight made no difference.

I watched the weird mask Swift wore out to the ring and the way Salka beat his chest before getting KO'd on the next shot Swift landed clean on him after throwing the same "no look, right hook to the body, left hook up top" combo 3x in a row:heh:
 

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therein lies the problem because you cant say you are a fan and then say you are not their accountant. its contradictory to business. a fan isnt looking through the same glasses as a business person. as a fan I told you the Salka fight wasnt shyt. but I also expressed my feelings on the business side. the two dont mix.

I am not a promoter...yet....but as I have stated here, I will be one day. its one of my goals. I have studied the business a lil, still have a lot to learn but I will get my promoters license in the next 2 years. just to say I did it and because I am a fan. but the promoter has to balance what the fans want and take care of the business side. its very difficult.

so again, I am a fan yes, but I also took the time to study some of the business aspect of boxing and other events. I have promoted/co-promoted local concerts....and even that is a lot of work and running around....think about on a large scale. you have to look at this from more than one way. if you are gonna say you are a fan, then leave it at that but dont think ANYONE cares about how big a fan you are.....because the people putting on and starring on the event are taking care of themselves first.


:mjlol: at this dude acting like he has some secret mystical knowledge passed down to him by monks because he "studied the business" it's not rocket science nikka. You ain't saying shyt that none of us here dont know already (aside from maybe Skip). Forget the fact that nikkas in this thread know fighters, forget the fact that nikkas in this thread know promoters you the one with the secret knowledge. :dead:

There was NO reason for Garcia/Salka end of story.
 
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:mjlol: at this dude acting like he has some secret mystical knowledge passed down to him by monks because he "studied the business" it's not rocket science nikka. You ain't saying shyt that none of us here know already (aside from maybe Skip). Forget the fact that nikkas in this thread know fighters, forget the fact that nikkas in this thread know promoters you the one with the secret knowledge. :dead:

There was NO reason for Garcia/Salka end of story.

Back in the day he used think like nikkas like you before he studied the boxing survival scrolls
 
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