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[surv2syn]

I wish people would stop with this "If Manny beats Fighter A he will have proven he deserves a fight with Floyd" bullshyt.
He is Manny fukking Pacquiao...his HOF career is all the proof he needs for a Floyd fight and it is the same way for Floyd.
These two guys are the two biggest names in the sport currently and they should fight for the betterment of boxing and for the fans. The fukking fight should have happened already to be honest. I don't care who is to blame or who any of the other negotiating bullshyt that gets talked about ad nauseum here either. If you think that Manny Pacquiao has to beat anyone to be deserving of a fight with Floyd Mayweather then you are a delusional.

breh, he is where you are missing the point. its really doesnt matter if we are saying it or not. the point is, Manny feels this way. if he didnt he wouldve gave Bradley the immediate rematch to prove it was a fluke and he may have had Floyd by now.

ever since the judges robbed him that fight he has been in career repair mode trying to collect whatever scalp he can to legitimize himself for Floyd. Manny shouldve never fought Bradley the first time.

I like how you say Bradley was a nobody AFTER he beat Pac...while totally neglecting the fact that Bradley was much less of a nobody before the 1st fight. cant have it both ways. if Bradley didnt deserve a rematch immediately, then how did he deserve the initial title shot. thats backwards my dude.[DOUBLEPOST=1397573651][/DOUBLEPOST]

Manny beat Bradley easily in their 1st fight.....Broner got beat up and wanted to redeem himself.


Different boats.


Manny, at that time didnt need to rematch Bradley, because nobody thought he lost but Mr. Smoke Weed After he beat JMM (after JMM knocked out Pac) THEN he decided that it would be worth it to fight Bradley again.....along with the fact that Floyd kept talking about Pac needed to avenge his "Bradley and Marquez problems".

if thats true then please tell me why he fought him in the first place?

I'm waiting.[DOUBLEPOST=1397573805][/DOUBLEPOST]

The thing is Bradley still went on to beat JMM clearly. So even if you discredit the Prov win, he still beat the guy who gives Manny his toughest fights.

Now go ahead and move the goal post again.

but he got the win the first time against Pac...at a time where you guys say he was a nobody. his career had never been as high as it was after he got that first W. but u nikkas say he was a nobody AFTER he beat Pac (because he really didnt win ) not explaining who the fukk was he before the win.

your turn.

 

[Newzz]

breh, he is where you are missing the point. its really doesnt matter if we are saying it or not. the point is, Manny feels this way. if he didnt he wouldve gave Bradley the immediate rematch to prove it was a fluke and he may have had Floyd by now.

ever since the judges robbed him that fight he has been in career repair mode trying to collect whatever scalp he can to legitimize himself for Floyd. Manny shouldve never fought Bradley the first time.

I like how you say Bradley was a nobody AFTER he beat Pac...while totally neglecting the fact that Bradley was much less of a nobody before the 1st fight. cant have it both ways. if Bradley didnt deserve a rematch immediately, then how did he deserve the initial title shot. thats backwards my dude.[DOUBLEPOST=1397573651][/DOUBLEPOST]

if thats true then please tell me why he fought him in the first place?

I'm waiting.

Bradley was the best opponent available on TR at that time. THAT'S why he fought him.


Let's not forget he turned down the fight with Amir Khan, left GB, went to TR and moved up to147 in order to fight Pacquiao.


Bradley was the #1 140 lber in the world at that time (after beating Alexander) which is why Khan was so desperate to fight him.

 

[surv2syn]

Nobody thought Bradley won that first fight and nobody wanted a rematch because nobody thought Pacquiao had anything to prove because he easily beat Bradley. Nobody cared about Tim Bradley as a boxer after that gift win. So an immediate rematch would not have benefited anyone. You are being really obtuse on this point, man.

thats bullshyt conjecture. the general public wanted and expected the rematch. TR and Pac didnt want it. the only nikkas crying about the robbery is us...but we make up a small percentage. A Bradley rematch at the time was worth just as much as a JMM rematch....but they risked it and got slept.

but now JMM is scared of a nikka he just KTFO. [DOUBLEPOST=1397574190][/DOUBLEPOST]

Bradley was the best opponent available on TR at that time. THAT'S why he fought him.


Let's not forget he turned down the fight with Amir Khan, left GB, went to TR and moved up to147 in order to fight Pacquiao.


Bradley was the #1 140 lber in the world at that time (after beating Alexander) which is why Khan was so desperate to fight him.

so move the goalpost once again and tell me how he was more of a nobody AFTER the Pac fight than he was before, effectively rendering an immediate rematch pointless?

 

[Jello Biafra]

breh, he is where you are missing the point. its really doesnt matter if we are saying it or not. the point is, Manny feels this way. if he didnt he wouldve gave Bradley the immediate rematch to prove it was a fluke and he may have had Floyd by now.

ever since the judges robbed him that fight he has been in career repair mode trying to collect whatever scalp he can to legitimize himself for Floyd. Manny shouldve never fought Bradley the first time.

I like how you say Bradley was a nobody AFTER he beat Pac...while totally neglecting the fact that Bradley was much less of a nobody before the 1st fight. cant have it both ways. if Bradley didnt deserve a rematch immediately, then how did he deserve the initial title shot. thats backwards my dude.[DOUBLEPOST=1397573651][/DOUBLEPOST]

if thats true then please tell me why he fought him in the first place?

I'm waiting.

No one cared about Tim Bradley before the first Manny fight and nobody cared about him after the first Manny fight. That's why he was fighting Provodnikov in a bingo hall as his first match after the Manny "win". But he was a ranked fighter in Manny's weight class who was promoted by Bob Arum which is why the first fight was made.
But after going life and death with Prov and beating JMM the boxing public at large began to hype up Bradley to the point that he was getting ranked on P4P lists and folks were even saying he would win in a rematch with Manny. The Manny win did nothing for Bradley but what he did afterwards elevated his status in the sport.
As for Manny, he wasn't in career rehab until after getting KTFO by JMM. That Bradley loss didn't diminish him at all because the entire world recognized it as the highway robbery it was.
So a Bradley that was now considered a star coupled with a Manny on a comeback mission is why the rematch was finally worth doing.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

breh, he is where you are missing the point. its really doesnt matter if we are saying it or not. the point is, Manny feels this way. if he didnt he wouldve gave Bradley the immediate rematch to prove it was a fluke and he may have had Floyd by now.

ever since the judges robbed him that fight he has been in career repair mode trying to collect whatever scalp he can to legitimize himself for Floyd. Manny shouldve never fought Bradley the first time.

I like how you say Bradley was a nobody AFTER he beat Pac...while totally neglecting the fact that Bradley was much less of a nobody before the 1st fight. cant have it both ways. if Bradley didnt deserve a rematch immediately, then how did he deserve the initial title shot. thats backwards my dude.[DOUBLEPOST=1397573651][/DOUBLEPOST]

if thats true then please tell me why he fought him in the first place?

I'm waiting.[DOUBLEPOST=1397573805][/DOUBLEPOST]

but he got the win the first time against Pac...at a time where you guys say he was a nobody. his career had never been as high as it was after he got that first W. but u nikkas say he was a nobody AFTER he beat Pac (because he really didnt win ) not explaining who the fukk was he before the win.

your turn.

Dude got A GIFT WIN. That's the only reason he really had to rebuild himself and you know it. It's like you acting dumb as fukk on purpose. Dude got famous for a win he didn't deserve so now he has all this new found attention, but nobody likes him and think he's not that good. That was how the public looked at shyt.

Bradley was never a nobody to boxing fans. You debating boxing fans. not casuals breh.

 

[surv2syn]

I'll never forget Zab saying there's no crying in boxing.....

then he goes on to lose to Kosta even worse with 2 good knees and goes on to have a temper tantrum where Tyson out of all people has to calm him down.

The point I made was that they both had to rebuild themselves. Neither looked good in their first fight. You trying to spin this shyt into something else.

Bradley didnt need rebuilding after the 1st Pac fight...why are you fast forwarding to Prov??? Pac needed rebuilding..and he got KTFO!

 

[Newzz]

so move the goalpost once again and tell me how he was more of a nobody AFTER the Pac fight than he was before, effectively rendering an immediate rematch pointless?

Bradley was ranked the #1 140 fighter in the world, but was still unknown to the casuals.......the same way that Guillermo Rigondeaux is the #8 P4P fighter and King Pin at Featherweight, but is unknown to the casuals



If Rigo fought and lost clearly and cleanly to Nonito Donaire, who was actually the much bigger name and still is, but got the decision on the scorecard in a blatant robbery, he would still be unknown to the casuals.



You acting weird today breh


Normally, you would know this, but somebody must've laced your bacon and eggs

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Bradley didnt need rebuilding after the 1st Pac fight...why are you fast forwarding to Prov??? Pac needed rebuilding..and he got KTFO!

You know what breh. Believe whatever you want.

shyt's not that serious.

It's like Manny fukked your girl right after the fight this weekend and you've been pissed ever since.

 

[Newzz]

No one cared about Tim Bradley before the first Manny fight and nobody cared about him after the first Manny fight. That's why he was fighting Provodnikov in a bingo hall as his first match after the Manny "win"

On BAD at that


The fight with Prov was the fight that raised Bradley's profile to the casuals

 

[seemorecizzy]

You know what breh. Believe whatever you want.

shyt's not that serious.

It's like Manny fukked your girl right after the fight this weekend and you've been pissed ever since.

cant even blame the guy
theres a a lot of dumb shyt being said in this thread
its like the pactards been holding on to it since the marquez knockout and are letting it out since sunday

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

cant even blame the guy
theres a a lot of dumb shyt being said in this thread
its like the pactards been holding on to it since the marquez knockout and are letting it out since sunday

Whenever nikkas disagree with Floyd or Manny it's some Flomo or Pactard shyt like nikkas is on the playground on some kid shyt.

Miss me with all that.

nikkas throwing shade at each other over 2 boxers that don't even respect the fans enough to make the fukking blood clot fight that everyone wanted to see.

nikkas wouldn't even be going this far with shyt if dudes ain't start talking that Bradley threw the fight nonsense.

 

[Newzz]

cant even blame the guy
theres a a lot of dumb shyt being said in this thread
its like the pactards been holding on to it since the marquez knockout and are letting it out since sunday

Where are the Pac fans?


Im not a Pacquiao fan or a Floyd fan.....I just call it like I see it on both sides.

 

[surv2syn]

You know what breh. Believe whatever you want.

shyt's not that serious.

It's like Manny fukked your girl right after the fight this weekend and you've been pissed ever since.

nah, u nikkas just blind....if Bradley wasnt shyt then then he aint shyt now. he gets a win over Pac with 2 bad ankles but he is even more of a nobody before he got the fight. Pac declines immediate rematch...because Bradley isnt worthy. Fights JMM and gets KTFO. now Bradley is worth something. JMM doesnt want to fight Manny again but he its because he is afraid. Pac beats Bradley and now he may rematch him even though he redeemed himself.

Pac apologists. He can do no wrong.

Crazy thing is....I like Pac more than I do Bradley

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Where are the Pac fans?


Im not a Pacquiao fan or a Floyd fan.....I just call it like I see it on both sides.

Thank you.

The most disgusting thing about discussing Floyd or Pac is that nikkas never think you can be a fan of boxing or both. You gotta be some sort of stan for either nikka like we putting up posters of them nikkas on street lights in the hood on some pay roll street team shyt.

That's one of the reason I don't even talk about Floyd here like that. If you think Roy Jones Jr or Sweet Pea is better than that nikka, cats who normally don't even post in here will some how find you and quote you with some condescending shyt like you can't have your own opinion.

nikkas will argue you down about Pac/Floyd an act like they some boxing guru, but yet they can't even tell you who fought on ShoBox last week or the upcoming fight on HBO or Wealth tv etc..

 

[surv2syn]

Whenever nikkas disagree with Floyd or Manny it's some Flomo or Pactard shyt like nikkas is on the playground on some kid shyt.

Miss me with all that.

nikkas throwing shade at each other over 2 boxers that don't even respect the fans enough to make the fukking blood clot fight that everyone wanted to see.

nikkas wouldn't even be going this far with shyt if dudes ain't start talking that Bradley threw the fight nonsense.

this convo really has nothing to do with Floyd though. only @Black_Jesus mentioned it because of what Floyd said. which is cool. but really, this is about Manny, Bradley, and JMM.

I will just ask....who do you guys think Manny will fight next?