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Floyd gets no slack from me. I told u that already. A Canelo match is pointless. A Cotto rematch is different though. If Cotto wins the MW championship then why wouldnt Floyd fight him? thats where its going over your head. It gives Floyd something attainable and Cotto gave Floyd a better fight than Canelo.

I got a feeling hbo might prevent that from happening.
 

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Yes, I dont understand the slights towards Marquez.


No, he's no longer in his prime, but he's a HOF boxer and he wants to do something no one else ever did as a Mexican.
Word.

And I'm far from a Marquez fan. I think that he's a bytch nikka and that in a prime vs prime fight, both Barrera and Morales would give him the beats.

But there's no denying that JMM is a HOF fighter. Talking down on him like he ain't shyt is just baffling
 

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Provodnikov is right there with Ortiz, Guerrero,Maidana. It's just that he never got dominated like them dudes have in their losses.

Bradley is clearly better than them 4 nikkas although not by much. I look at Danny Garcia the same way. 2 promising B+ fighters in their prime.
 

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That's what Im saying.


nikkas is discrediting Manny fighting PRIME HOFers Erik Morales (because it happened more than once), MAB (because it happened more than once), JMM (because it happened more than once), and Bradley (because it happened more than once) which sounds REALLY stupid to me:manny:
i dont think anybody here is saying that
i think your a little confused'
nothing wrong with trilogies and legit rematches if it calls for one
WE are talking about a 5TH fight here
everyone was saying their 4th fight (very rare nowadays) was gonna be their last one and was gonna put a definite end to everything
WHICH IT DID
and the onlyyyy reason a 5th fight is being discussed, is because pactards and the media (same thing for the most part)
are butt hurt over marquez knocking him the fukk out and they are trying to take that away from him
 

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Provodnikov is right there with Ortiz, Guerrero,Maidana. It's just that he never got dominated like them dudes have in their losses.

Bradley is clearly better than them 4 nikkas although not by much. I look at Danny Garcia the same way. 2 promising B+ fighters in their prime.


Exactly.


Which is why I said, Manny being "unofficially" 2-0 against Bradley is better, TO ME, than Floyd beating Ortiz, Guerrero, and Maidana. He's better than those other 3 and Prov as well.:manny:
 

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you guys only look at things one way. its not about fukking props. props for what? beating a guy he said he already beat? its about exposing the bullshyt. we are true boxing fans. we dont want all this bullshyt and politics. we just want good fights and not the same rehashed shyt over and over but yet claiming this is for #2 P4P. you cant get credit for beating the same people over and over again in a small circle.

the SRR argument was retarded. SRR would kick a guys ass 3 times then kick another guys ass 3 times. its not the same today.

look at this...after Bradley beat Pac the first time...where was the rematch??? answer me goddamit!!! this fool had a rematch clause that he chose not to exercise! why? well his excuse was that he "really won". to quote Floyd...."there is no such thing as a really won". but lets say it is a such thing. then why fight Bradley now? because he done got KTFO, and needed massive rebuilding.

so he didnt need to fight him immediately but now all of a sudden he needs to erase all doubt? :camby: all the way up outta this bytch with that garbage.

he gets props for beating a very good fighter...but dont try and sell me no bullshyt. if he didnt have anything to prove after the first fight what did he have to prove now?

you guys conveniently forget that rematch clause. Manny jumps from dikk to dikk to try and redeem himself and by not exercising the rematch clause it backfired on him. trying for redemption against JMM and getting :deadmanny:
After the first Bradley fight 99.9% of the world felt Manny won handily and nobody was clamoring for a rematch or looking for Manny to get redemption because no one was interested in watching Tim Bradley. So Manny took the bigger money fight against JMM. Once Bradley had the exciting fight with Provodnikov and beat JMM, he was all of a sudden seen as a legit big time fighter so the Manny rematch actually meant something as far as fans and money.
That is all it is to this story...why you are assigning deeper darker motivation is bewildering. Two years ago Manny/Bradley 2 meant nothing; this year it meant something.
 

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i dont think anybody here is saying that
i think your a little confused'
nothing wrong with trilogies and legit rematches if it calls for one
WE are talking about a 5TH fight here
everyone was saying their 4th fight (very rare nowadays) was gonna be their last one and was gonna put a definite end to everything
WHICH IT DID
and the onlyyyy reason a 5th fight is being discussed, is because pactards and the media (same thing for the most part)
are butt hurt over marquez knocking him the fukk out and they are trying to take that away from him


Did Floyd not say that Manny needed to redeem himself with victories over Bradley and Marquez before he would even entertain a fight with Pac though?:dwillhuh:


That would mean a 2nd fight with Bradley was needed as well as a 5th fight with Marquez.



Why yall acting brand new today for?:mindblown:
 

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After the first Bradley fight 99.9% of the world felt Manny won handily and nobody was clamoring for a rematch or looking for Manny to get redemption because no one was interested in watching Tim Bradley. So Manny took the bigger money fight against JMM. Once Bradley had the exciting fight with Provodnikov and beat JMM, he was all of a sudden seen as a legit big time fighter so the Manny rematch actually meant something as far as fans and money.
That is all it is to this story...why you are assigning deeper darker motivation is bewildering. Two years ago Manny/Bradley 2 meant nothing; this year it meant something.

Basically.

Bradley earned the rematch.

Similar to Mitchell earning his against Tyszu.

but lets keep making up conspiracy theories to further shyt on two fighters that gave it their all this past weekend. :snoop:
 

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After the first Bradley fight 99.9% of the world felt Manny won handily and nobody was clamoring for a rematch or looking for Manny to get redemption because no one was interested in watching Tim Bradley. So Manny took the bigger money fight against JMM. Once Bradley had the exciting fight with Provodnikov and beat JMM, he was all of a sudden seen as a legit big time fighter so the Manny rematch actually meant something as far as fans and money.
That is all it is to this story...why you are assigning deeper darker motivation is bewildering. Two years ago Manny/Bradley 2 meant nothing; this year it meant something.

but you guys said its not going to do 1 mil buys. if it didnt mean nothing then it dont now. the exciting fight with Prov didnt prove nothing except Bradley nearly losing his title. you are making excuses. Pac didnt get the win and wasnt interested in avenging it immediately. now thats all there is to the story. avenge the loss immediately and we may have had Floyd vs Pac by now.[DOUBLEPOST=1397571527][/DOUBLEPOST]
Basically.

Bradley earned the rematch.

Similar to Mitchell earning his against Tyszu.

but lets keep making up conspiracy theories to further shyt on two fighters that gave it their all this past weekend. :snoop:

ok, you nikkas making no sense now. mitchell lost to tszyu. by retirement at that. how is that the same thing? Bradley earned the rematch by getting the win the first time. not to mention there was a rematch clause. so Bradley was undeserving even though he was undefeated????
 

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Well if Bradley quit fighting then and "threw the fight" which is yall conspiracy theory, my new one is Canelo threw the fight against Floyd. He just went in there and stood there and allowed Floyd to win without fighting like the Canelo we all know, because he knows where his bread is buttered, and beating Floyd meant no future rematch down the road:manny:
























Yep it sounds stupid right? That's how it sounds to everyone else when you and others imply Bradley threw the fight.


I've never seen someone throw a fight while swinging for the fences though and even connecting with those hard ass shots:mjpls:
I'll add to it that Sugar Shane threw his fight against Floyd too...Shane damn near knocked Floyd out in the second round but then took his foot off the gas and just allowed Floyd to win a decision.
:merchant:
 

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i dont think anybody here is saying that
i think your a little confused'
nothing wrong with trilogies and legit rematches if it calls for one
WE are talking about a 5TH fight here
everyone was saying their 4th fight (very rare nowadays) was gonna be their last one and was gonna put a definite end to everything
WHICH IT DID
and the onlyyyy reason a 5th fight is being discussed, is because pactards and the media (same thing for the most part)
are butt hurt over marquez knocking him the fukk out and they are trying to take that away from him

thank you
 

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I am actually a Manny fan.
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