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[LeVraiPapi]

Newzz' Official Ring Boxing Rankings:

TOP 10 Pound 4 Pound:
1) Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2) Andre Ward
3) Timothy Bradley
4) Juan Manuel Marquez
5) Manny Pacquiao
6) Sergio Martinez
7) Guillermo Rigondeaux
8) Wladimir Klitschko
9) Carl Froch
10) Danny Garcia

Heavyweights:
1) Wladimir Klitschko
2) Kubrat Pulev
3) Alexander Povetkin
4) Tomasz Adamek
5) Bermane Stiverne

Cruiserweights:
1) Marco Huck
2) Yoan Pablo Hernandez
3) Krzystof Wlodarczyk
4) Guillermo Jones
5) Ola Afolabi

Light Heavyweights:
1) Adonis Stevenson
2) Bernard Hopkins
3) Sergey Kovalev
4) Jean Pascal
5) Chad Dawson

Super Middleweights:
1) Andre Ward
2) Carl Froch
3) Mikkel Kessler
4) George Groves
5) Arthur Abraham

Middleweights:
1) Sergio Martinez
2) Gennady Golovkin
3) Peter Quillin
4) Felix Sturm
5) Daniel Geale

Junior Middleweights:
1) Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2) Canelo Alvarez
3) Erislandy Lara
4) Miguel Cotto
5) Carlos Molina

Welterweights:
1) Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2) Timothy Bradley
3) Juan Manuel Marquez
4) Manny Pacquiao
5) Marcos Maidana

Junior Welterweights:
1) Danny Garcia
2) Lucas Matthysse
3) Ruslan Provodnikov
4) Lamont Peterson
5) Amir Khan

Lightweights:
1) Adrien Broner
2) Miguel Vasquez
3) Richard Abril
4) Raymundo Beltran
5) Ricky Burns
Junior Lightweights:
1) Takashi Uchiyama
2) Mikey Garcia
3) Argenis Mendez
4) Juan Carlos Burgos
5) Roman Martinez

Featherweights:
1) Jhonny Gonzalez
2) Abner Mares
3) Evgeny Gradovich
4) Simpiwe Vetyeka
5) Orlando Salido

Junior Featherweights:
1) Guillermo Rigondeaux
2) Leo Santa Cruz
3) Jeffery Mathebula
4) Carl Frampton
5) Victor Terrazas



That took me about about an hour and a half brehs

I think we may need to stick with maybe the Top 10 Pound For Pound Rankings....well, I guess since we only updating once a month, it's cool. I have no problem with it

What yall think? I didnt see the need to wait any longer, because there arent any "meaningful" fights happening again until after the new year begins.

Any responses, criticism, + reps/daps ( ) will be greatly appreciated


#TheRing

Nice list but I see the disrespect at my boy Rigo.

 

[Newzz]

I was one of the biggest fans of Rigo and still am but man you can't put on a show like his last fight and expect for networks to support you.

However,this comment about "the viewers voted" is kind of bullshyt because I remember reading that showtime's and HBO viewership was almost 50/50 that night. If he was making an argument about people walking out and booing then I would be less likely to call bullshyt.

I hope to see Rigo on an undercard at least in the future and hopefully once his contract runs out ( I think he only has 1-2 fights left right) he leaves bytch ass top rank. Its their job to make him marketable.

You cant make someone marketable who fights in a "boring" style to the masses AND who also doesnt speak English. Hell, people still think Floyd is boring and REALLY thought he was boring back in his lightweight days.....and he was much more of an offensive fighter than Rigondeaux is.

TR can do whatever they want, but they can not stop fans from booing your fight or walking out in disgust. Only the fighter can control what's going on in the ring, and if you have a clearly overmatched opponent in your face, in order to entertain the fans, you must press the action and try and get him up out of there. Rigondeaux didnt do that.

This is not "boxing" at this level. It's "Prize Fighting". You get booked and make more money via how entertaining you are to the fans. You can win and win and win......if the fans dont wanna watch you fight, you will not be on Major Networks or ever be a draw in this sport. (ie. Chris John, The K-Bros now, etc)

Rigondeaux is really gonna have to abandon his comfort if he wants to become a household name OR learn English, and become a "personality".

 

[Newzz]

Nice list but I see the disrespect at my boy Rigo.

He's gonna have to show me more. It's kinda hard to gauge him because he's so defensive in there and it's hard as fukk to land a clean shot on him. However, his last opponent was 2-3 in his last 5 fights before fighting Rigondeaux and was clearly overmatched. Rigo was content to just take the "decision" instead of taking the chance of trying to get him out of there.

I'd like to see Rigo in there with somebody like Santa Cruz (which wont happen). That would give us another opponent to gauge how great Rigo really is. The Donaire victory was excellent, but I need to see him dominate another elite opponent.

I dont believe currently there are any other "A class" opponents at 122 for him (bc of the GB/TR beef) and he needs to move up to 126

 

[patscorpio]

honestly i hope arum release rigo so he can go on to showtime instead....terrible disrespect

 

[SuikodenII]

#1 ranked Super Flyweight Omar Navaez vs. David Carmona

Spoiler

I'm sure he has no plans to take any tough fights from here on but I wish the WBO would force a mandatory eliminator between Koki Kameda and Felipe Orcuta...he's holding the belt hostage like Chris John

 

[SuikodenII]

Oscar Valdez.......Mexico's future.......​

 

[charknicks]

I was one of the biggest fans of Rigo and still am but man you can't put on a show like his last fight and expect for networks to support you.

However,this comment about "the viewers voted" is kind of bullshyt because I remember reading that showtime's and HBO viewership was almost 50/50 that night. If he was making an argument about people walking out and booing then I would be less likely to call bullshyt.

I hope to see Rigo on an undercard at least in the future and hopefully once his contract runs out ( I think he only has 1-2 fights left right) he leaves bytch ass top rank. Its their job to make him marketable.

Thats the point. The HBO president is saying that the HBO/Showtime viewing should NEVER be 50/50, because HBO has many more subscribers then Showtime does. If Rigo is (or was) the big draw all of his fans claimed to be, they would have been watching him on HBO instead of Broner on Showtime.

Top Rank's job to make him marketable? That is some dumb stuff you just wrote, bruh. They marketed his way into a main event fight on an HBO card, with an exciting co-main KO right before him. Its Top Rank's job to bring him to the market, man. They did that! Top Rank cant go in and fight for him in the ring. People need to chill with asinine comments like that. At the end of the day, if you are that much better then your opponent, go in the ring and waste him in 4 or 5 rounds.

Rigo is a great fighter, but not for TV. We want guys who will be willing to battle in the ring. Amateur boxing is not on TV for a reason.

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

Beibut Shumenov

 

[SuikodenII]

The Chudinov Brrothers

Fedor (168)​

Dmitry (160) interim WBA champion

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That makes 3 160 WBA champions

 

[SuikodenII]

"The Eagle" Eduard Troyanovsky

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

The Chudinov Brrothers

Fedor (168)​

Dmitry (160) interim WBA champion

​

That makes 3 160 WBA champions

 

[SuikodenII]

#19 ranked Welterweight Frankie Gavin vs. Bradley Price

Spoiler

That's 2 fights in a row now where he's looked meh in...I think I should remove him from my rankings, Bundu or any top 147 fighter would destroy this cat

 

[SuikodenII]

Stuart Hall vs. Vusi Malinga for the vacant IBF 118 Championship

Spoiler

Great scrap, Hall is food though...his rematch with Jamie McDonnell will be another brawl

 

[SuikodenII]

"JAMAICA, QUEENS, N.Y. (December 21, 2013) - Last night at Resorts World Casino NYC, promoter/rapper Curtis "50 Cent" Jackson's SMS Promotions closed its 2013 season in grand style with the presentation of "Big Apple Boxing," in which five of six fights ended in knockouts.

Three fighters promoted by 50 Cent registered impressive victories"

http://philboxing.com/news/story-90471.html

any real prospects from this card, or are these guys future jobbers? What's the education here?

Amir Imam

Joel Diaz Jr.

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Emmanuel De Jesus

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

Nice list but I see the disrespect at my boy Rigo.

Not only that he has Garcia out of the top 5 pound for pound, low blow set is going to kill him.