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[Black_Jesus]

those purses were announced BEFORE the fight. those were the guarantees. how do you guarantee a fight not knowing what the outcome of revenue stream will be? well....you can estimate and thats how you come up with it. but, you must have some measures and deals in place in the event of shortcomings. the casino endorsements and international rights all play a factor. the fight did what they predicted (or so they said) but I am sure they hoped for a little bit better. If the total revenue stream falls short of the predicted goals....someone has to take that hit. Thats why I am saying Arum and TR looked like they were willing to sacrifice more than what they normally would in terms of income but cutting corners and expenses elsewhere. We dont know what the "other sources" brought in but the budgetary report still looks like it may have been very tight. I think we will hear more about this fight and what it really did financially come back up at a later time. its like @InvictusAeternusEternus said....if we are to take those reports for face value, then why are they coming back to fight at the MGM Grand?

If the backend revenue stream comes up short, the promoter takes a loss.. SIMPLE... it doesn't effect guarantee purses... I still don't get this HUGE loss nikkas is talking about TR "sacrificed" by having the fight in China. . The dollars HAD to make sense for them to proceed

 

[Black_Jesus]

Thats why I said there was something funny going on with the numbers at Top Rank. They say that Manny's getting these guarantees and the paper work shows this and the US and Phillipine government believe it and are taxing him based off those guarantees when hes more than likely making a significant amount less. Hell, I wouldnt be shocked if he believes his taxes are straight and that why he seem's so suprised by all this. Manny gonna end up catching time why Arum and Koncz get away scot free because Manny is way too trusting and seemingly gullible. Its a fukking shame

All that bolded shyt is speculation... nothing more.. I don't understand why yall keep making all these ASSumptions before all the facts come out... fallback

 

[surv2syn]

If the backend revenue stream comes up short, the promoter takes a loss.. SIMPLE... it doesn't effect guarantee purses... I still don't get this HUGE loss nikkas is talking about TR "sacrificed" by having the fight in China. . The dollars HAD to make sense for them to proceed

thats what I've been saying. TR likely took an L on this just to keep Manny fighting. You dont look at things logically. If I am getting jerked.....and possibly facing some jail time....fukk u gonna just MAKE me fight??? he could retire and void that bullshyt ass contract and after a year come back and get a fukkin Floyd fight by his damn self and co-promote the chit. even sign with GBP and still get some co-promo shyt. staying in this deal aint makin sense breh if Arum aint gonna attempt to at least grease Manny's a$$hole.

 

[surv2syn]

All that bolded shyt is speculation... nothing more.. I don't understand why yall keep making all these ASSumptions before all the facts come out... fallback

 

[surv2syn]

All that bolded shyt is speculation... nothing more.. I don't understand why yall keep making all these ASSumptions before all the facts come out... fallback

I'd like for you to explain to me how someone could plausibly even accuse someone of owing $68 million? I am not saying he owes that much but we are talking about what is plausible here. Something dont add up. Either he owes money because he didnt pay...or he owes money that he didnt know he owed or was unaware of the correct amounts. somewhere Manny is getting reamed. I wouldnt be surprised if some of his financial advisors and accountants suddenly drop out of sight.

 

[Skip b]

http://www.spin.ph/sports/boxing/ne...o-talks-with-mayweathers-camp-during-us-visit


Lets see how this plays out, and is this another PR move

 

[Skip b]

If the backend revenue stream comes up short, the promoter takes a loss.. SIMPLE... it doesn't effect guarantee purses... I still don't get this HUGE loss nikkas is talking about TR "sacrificed" by having the fight in China. . The dollars HAD to make sense for them to proceed

Make up all the lies you want and continue to constantly move the goal post

Manny gonna catch that fade from the IRS man regardless

 

[Black_Jesus]

thats what I've been saying. TR likely took an L on this just to keep Manny fighting. You dont look at things logically. If I am getting jerked.....and possibly facing some jail time....fukk u gonna just MAKE me fight??? he could retire and void that bullshyt ass contract and after a year come back and get a fukkin Floyd fight by his damn self and co-promote the chit. even sign with GBP and still get some co-promo shyt. staying in this deal aint makin sense breh if Arum aint gonna attempt to at least grease Manny's @sshole.

I do look at things logically... I just don't base my logic from unprovable baseless theories... Talking bout what "likely happen".. just because you make a baseless statement that is indeed "logical" doesn't make the statement true or reality... yall in here trying to create the truth and shyt..I'm not wit it... Leave that bullshyt to @Skip b

You think Pac should leave Top Rank who just guaranteed a $18 million purse coming off 2 losses, one of them a KO?? Are you high?? And then retire and sign with Golden Boy?? Now it would be one thing if Pac was still being offered $40 million to fight Floydie, but we both know Floyd bytch ass aint still standing with that offer, so what would be the point.. and yes im assuming Floydie not standing with his offer because his offers and demands switch up every single time this fight comes up... Floydie already stated Pac has to first beat Bradley and Marquez first... Floydie already trying to downplay the potential matchup talking about Pac only 1-3 in his last 3 fights... but Pac supposed drop everything, retire, and jump ship for this bytch ass nikka

How about we wait until after Pac beats Bradley in the rematch (1 of Floydie requirements) then we can talk about a Pac Floydie fight MAYBE happening

 

[Skip b]

I do look at things logically... I just don't base my logic from unprovable baseless theories... Talking bout what "likely happen".. just because you make a baseless statement that is indeed "logical" doesn't make the statement true or reality... yall in here trying to create the truth and shyt..I'm not wit it... Leave that bullshyt to @Skip b

You think Pac should leave Top Rank who just guaranteed a $18 million purse coming off 2 losses, one of them a KO?? Are you high?? And then retire and sign with Golden Boy?? Now it would be one thing if Pac was still being offered $40 million to fight Floydie, but we both know Floyd bytch ass aint still standing with that offer, so what would be the point.. and yes im assuming Floydie not standing with his offer because his offers and demands switch up every single time this fight comes... Floydie already stated Pac has to first beat Bradley and Marquez first... Floydie already trying to downplay the potential matchup talking about Pac only 1-3 in his last 3 fights... but Pac supposed drop everything, retire, and jump ship for this bytch ass nikka

How about we wait until after Pac beats Bradley in the rematch (1 of Floydie requirements) then we can talk about a Pac Floydie fight MAYBE happening

I look at things logically also bytch nikka and if the BIR and IRS says Manny owes 68 million and taxes then thats what the fukk they mean, they are precise with the number down to the tee, yall paid TR posters can't spin this one bit, the IRS means busineess and Manny fukked up bigtime.


Arum even shytting on your boy

http://www.boxingscene.com/-arum-understands-marquezs-stance-on-pacquiao-fight--72663


Unlike many of these fighters, Marquez is an accountant,” Arum said. “He saved much of his money and made some very safe investments. So truly, for Marquez money is not a factor..........................

 

[Black_Jesus]

I look at things logically also bytch nikka and if the BIR and IRS says Manny owes 68 million and taxes then thats what the fukk they mean, they are precise with the number down to the tee, yall paid TR posters can't spin this one bit, the IRS means busineess and Manny fukked up bigtime.


Arum even shytting on your boy

http://www.boxingscene.com/-arum-understands-marquezs-stance-on-pacquiao-fight--72663


Unlike many of these fighters, Marquez is an accountant,” Arum said. “He saved much of his money and made some very safe investments. So truly, for Marquez money is not a factor..........................

None of this has anything to do with the post you quoted... try again faggit

 

[Skip b]

None of this has anything to do with the post you quoted... try again faggit

 

[surv2syn]

I do look at things logically... I just don't base my logic from unprovable baseless theories... Talking bout what "likely happen".. just because you make a baseless statement that is indeed "logical" doesn't make the statement true or reality... yall in here trying to create the truth and shyt..I'm not wit it... Leave that bullshyt to @Skip b

You think Pac should leave Top Rank who just guaranteed a $18 million purse coming off 2 losses, one of them a KO?? Are you high?? And then retire and sign with Golden Boy?? Now it would be one thing if Pac was still being offered $40 million to fight Floydie, but we both know Floyd bytch ass aint still standing with that offer, so what would be the point.. and yes im assuming Floydie not standing with his offer because his offers and demands switch up every single time this fight comes up... Floydie already stated Pac has to first beat Bradley and Marquez first... Floydie already trying to downplay the potential matchup talking about Pac only 1-3 in his last 3 fights... but Pac supposed drop everything, retire, and jump ship for this bytch ass nikka

How about we wait until after Pac beats Bradley in the rematch (1 of Floydie requirements) then we can talk about a Pac Floydie fight MAYBE happening

ok, u on dope or dog food. "baseless" so all this tax chit is has no facts behind it?
saying Manny owes his ass to the IRS is hyperbole?
like GBP couldnt get this dude a fight guaranteeing $18 mil with the roster they have at 140-147?
like GBP cant get this dude on a main event of a PPV and get more than 500k buys @Skip b get cha boy!
like GBP cant get Manny a nice deal on Showtime

we aint even talmbout Floyd. GBP could do that for Pac without Floyd being involved.

or...Manny is big enough to where he could get his promoters license and co-promote like Floyd did.

this aint even about Floyd right now, this is about the IRS.

if Manny gets a check in the U.S. he wont see it til this chit is cleared up.

who's to say JMM doesnt get Bradley? He already said its Bradley or retire...putting TR between a rock and a hard place.

Manny career is in the shytter. He is in worse shape than Tyson ever was because he is in deeper, plus, Mike KNEW about a lot of money he fukked his money up....Manny seems clueless about what is going on in his financial affairs. seems like people are telling him one thing and doing another. Roach spoke on this a few years ago. He said he worried about Manny going broke one day. Why would he say that?

its really nothing to be sad about. Manny doesnt seem like he is a guy who really cares much about having a lot of money. he is a good dude that looks out for his people. he cant help his people or his country though if he is fighting for free.

again.... at freezing someones assets relying on baseless information

 

[surv2syn]

funny thing is...insiders are doubting the chit even had 400k buys. HBO says it only did 475k and TR count was off. (by 25k?)

 

[Skip b]

Malignaggi calling out Swift on his Twitter, nikka must want that career ending ass whipping

 

[yoyoyo1]

Malignaggi calling out Swift on his Twitter, nikka must want that career ending ass whipping

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