Joe C having no heart is new to me, he may have been a slapping as nikka but he was ducked by the best in his prime, which cant even be disputed at allat least joe c never bytched to the ref..ill give him that..he had skills just no fighter's heart..ottke was 100x worse than him..in a just world that fukk should have like 3-4 losses on his record..i hope he NEVER goes into the HOF
Joe fought the best in Bhop and Roy who the fukk you want him to fight after that the bums in the super 6 for chump change like Ward has