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[patscorpio]

Roy Jones Jr's career would make a top 5 all time highlight reel. Dude just had too many damn sick ass in ring moments.

Looking back I don't think Roy could have become bigger than he was. He never really had the marquee names floating around his division like Manny and Floyd did when they were on their run. Them nikkas had cats like Cotto, Judah, Mosely, Oscar, Morales, Canelo, and,..etc. whether they were past it or not the public knew them dudes. Roy gets shytted on for not fighting Darius Michewhatthefukkisdudesname when dude wasn't all that hyped to fighting Roy either and its not like he was some household name. nikka made his name by whupping dudes after Roy beat 'em.

I can't front tho, Roy fought his share of cops and sanitation workers like he had something against nikkas with honest steady jobs, but he did it in exciting fashion and made a lot of worldclass nikkas look like they should have been teachers or cops or whatever. Its just that when you get a once in a lifetime type of talent you want him to fight everybody and become larger than life and sometimes it just doesn't turn out like that.

word for word i cosign this

 

[patscorpio]

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Negotiations are underway for a bout between heavyweights Seth Mitchell and Chris Arreola, according to Mitchell’s manager, Sharif Salim.

Nothing has been signed or set yet. Potential dates could include early September, possibly on the West Coast.

This confirmed an earlier tweet by Steve Kim of MaxBoxing.com, who noted last week that the fight was being discussed.

“Even though he lost his last fight to [Bermane] Stiverne, he’s quite a capable opponent. Very dangerous,” Salim said of Arreola. “And he is indeed an entertaining fighter. I looked at Seth’s last fight [against Johnathon Banks], which we had to fight a more strategic fight, pumping that jab, watching our distance, all those types of things, because the overall objective there was simply to get our ‘W.’ Every fight Seth has been in, be it one round, two or three, has been exciting. This [Banks bout] was a strategic fight, and we’re OK with that.

“But we want to bring back again that wonderful arsenal that Seth has, as well as that turbulence, that excitement that he brings when he fights. We believe a fight with two guys who will be coming at each other will be, for however long it lasts, something that the public will give two thumbs up on.”

Look for a full interview with Salim soon on BoxingScene.com.

Mitchell’s unanimous decision win over Banks in June avenged his second-round stoppage loss to him last November. The victory brought the 31-year-old’s record to 26-1-1 with 19 knockouts.

Arreola lost a unanimous decision to Stiverne in April. The 32-year-old is now 35-3 with 30 knockouts.

Both boxers are with adviser Al Haymon, though this wouldn't be the first time two Haymon fighters faced each other. Earlier this year, middleweight Peter Quillin stopped Fernando Guerrero.

seth's team clearly has no love for him..looks like they're saying "fukk it let see if this nikka is gonna swim or is he's gon drown"..i dont see seth getting out of the first round ..arreola will shatter that jaw to pieces

 

[Willy Waffle]

Roy Jones Jr's career would make a top 5 all time highlight reel. Dude just had too many damn sick ass in ring moments.

Looking back I don't think Roy could have become bigger than he was. He never really had the marquee names floating around his division like Manny and Floyd did when they were on their run. Them nikkas had cats like Cotto, Judah, Mosely, Oscar, Morales, Canelo, and,..etc. whether they were past it or not the public knew them dudes. Roy gets shytted on for not fighting Darius Michewhatthefukkisdudesname when dude wasn't all that hyped to fighting Roy either and its not like he was some household name. nikka made his name by whupping dudes after Roy beat 'em.

I can't front tho, Roy fought his share of cops and sanitation workers like he had something against nikkas with honest steady jobs, but he did it in exciting fashion and made a lot of worldclass nikkas look like they should have been teachers or cops or whatever. Its just that when you get a once in a lifetime type of talent you want him to fight everybody and become larger than life and sometimes it just doesn't turn out like that.

people over exaggerate this shyt. one was a cop and the other was a mailman. richard frazier was the cop from ny and didn't even try to give roy a fight. he just came there for a check. but tony the punching postman thorton was actually a solid fighter and top 10 ranked. roy whipped his ass but if anyone get a chance to watch the fight he had with james toney, he stood his ground and gave james a good fight.

 

[Willy Waffle]

seth's team clearly has no love for him..looks like they're saying "fukk it let see if this nikka is gonna swim or is he's gon drown"..i dont see seth getting out of the first round ..arreola will shatter that jaw to pieces

i don't see the big deal in this it's not like he aint getting not better. if you got ko'd by johnathan banks, and questioned about how the you won the rematch, shyt aint looking to bright. this fight will be fun as long as it lasts but i think arreola takes him out in 3-4 rounds.

 

[Black Gatsby]

The Big Nipple sending Seth to sleep bruh, can't go any other way

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

so shaefer is having a conference call today at 3 for a "major" fight announcement?

 

[Skip b]

still beat the Harding that had just worked Tarver the fukk over....still stopped Clinton Woods who Cloud struggled with 8 years later....still won the HW title and came back and won LHW title 8 months later. If you shyt on Roy for those wins...then I can shyt on any fighter you claim or name because hardly anyone can match those accomplishments. Not even Floyd has moved up 2 weight classes and came back down to win a title. shyt aint as easy as you make it seem breh...but yeah...he was knocking nikkas out with Ripped Fuel.

Why didnt you post his record pre and post roids

He was 42-1 with 34 ko's whch could easily been 35 ko's in the frame when we thought he was natural, after he failed his test he was 14 wins with 7 losses and only 6 ko's that all you need to know about Roy and Roids.

 

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When I say Roy wasn't a draw its in response to these nikkas stayin its OK for Roy to fight the village people cuz its HBO but not OK for Floyd to fight Guerrero, Ortiz, Cotto etc cuz its ppvs

If RJJ coulda made half of what Floyd does them fights would a been on ppv too....nikkas action like Roy was sayin "NO my opponent is a euro bum I can't charge my loyal fans"

The same dudes leading the Floyd hate got they pom poems for Roy....Floyd "ducked" errybody....yet no one says shyt bout Roy not fighting that undefeated Euro that was at 175....Roy was waiting on Tito to move up all the to fight him....but wouldn't give Bhop that rematch

Broner is a cherrypicker for moving up 2 weight classes to get Malignaggis belt....but Roy is God for fight John fukking Ruiz

nikkas need to be consistent

This..................

Roy was waiting on Tito to move up all the to fight him....but wouldn't give Bhop that rematch

I agree with most, but what can't be taken away from Roy is he wanted to shut BHOP ass up, he said 60/40 you get your ass kicked on HBO live and the whole world saw BHOP

BHOP aint want it

 

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double

 

[Black_Jesus]

Why didnt you post his record pre and post roids

He was 42-1 with 34 ko's whch could easily been 3 ko's in the frame when we thought he was natural, after he failed his test he was 14 wins with 7 losses and only 6 ko's that all you need to know about Roy and Roids.

Has nothing to do with jumping up to heavyweight weight then back down to light while being n his mid 30s.... ripped fuel is steroids now?? Man someone spiked your bean dip breh

 

[Skip b]

Has nothing to do with jumping up to heavyweight weight then back down to light while being n his mid 30s.... ripped fuel is steroids now?? Man someone spiked your bean dip breh

Absolutely nothing nikkas act Roy put on 40 pounds to make heavy he simply fought at his walk around weight, there were zero reports of him having a hard time making weight or nothing for Tarver 2, but Roy has a great PR team which was showed with that ripped fuel fiasco,idiots like yourself still using that lie after IBF said anabolic roids, and Roy refusing a B sample............

 

[surv2syn]

at that village people line

Floyd is a victim of his own dominance. He's beaten most of the people they claim he's ducked or attempted to duck and made some of them look like

I read RJJ's wiki and at his opponent going to prison before the fight for being a crime boss

again, and you can take it with a grain of salt if you want to...but RJJ and Floyd's careers were very different. They always say RJJ ducked Benn or Eubank or Michealzewski (I used to be able to know how to spell it ) but those fighters refused to come to the U.S. and RJJ refused to go over there. Neither camps had to budge and they didnt. Do you know how much money Michalzewski made over in Germany all those years??? He didnt need Roy.

When you bring up names like Casamayor, Freitas, Tszyu, etc....there were no such limitations. They were fighting in the U.S. and wouldve fought Floyd on his terms. When RJJ was at the top of 168-175 the best fighters in or around those divisions were overseas and refused to come to the states.

When you say Floyd beat everybody that was around, I dont know how you can say RJJ didnt do the same thing given what he had to work with. Its not his fault that he weighed in at 175lbs.

 

[surv2syn]

This..................

I agree with most, but what can't be taken away from Roy is he wanted to shut BHOP ass up, he said 60/40 you get your ass kicked on HBO live and the whole world saw BHOP

BHOP aint want it

this cant be denied. if there is a fault in Roy's career, it was that he wouldnt allow himself to be dictated to by fighters of lesser marketability. Hopkins used the inexperience in their first fight along with the fact that he had those title defenses as reasoning that he should be on even split with Roy...and Roy just wouldnt budge. I was frustrated with Roy just like at times I have been frustrated with Floyd...but at the end of the day...I am just a spectator and not in their shoes.

 

[surv2syn]

Roy Jones Jr's career would make a top 5 all time highlight reel. Dude just had too many damn sick ass in ring moments.

Looking back I don't think Roy could have become bigger than he was. He never really had the marquee names floating around his division like Manny and Floyd did when they were on their run. Them nikkas had cats like Cotto, Judah, Mosely, Oscar, Morales, Canelo, and,..etc. whether they were past it or not the public knew them dudes. Roy gets shytted on for not fighting Darius Michewhatthefukkisdudesname when dude wasn't all that hyped to fighting Roy either and its not like he was some household name. nikka made his name by whupping dudes after Roy beat 'em.

I can't front tho, Roy fought his share of cops and sanitation workers like he had something against nikkas with honest steady jobs, but he did it in exciting fashion and made a lot of worldclass nikkas look like they should have been teachers or cops or whatever. Its just that when you get a once in a lifetime type of talent you want him to fight everybody and become larger than life and sometimes it just doesn't turn out like that.

Disagree. Just my opinion but he absolutely couldve been bigger had he been with TR or DKP...they couldve manufactured fights for him. Thats why they were the best promoters. They knew how to get the most money. Roy and Square Ring just rode off of his name as being the best at that time and being exciting. They didnt know how to stage a huge event though. Ironically, RJJ's biggest payday by far came in a DKP co-promotion. As I said, he couldve been bigger if he had signed on with the big promoters but at what cost?

 

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again, and you can take it with a grain of salt if you want to...but RJJ and Floyd's careers were very different. They always say RJJ ducked Benn or Eubank or Michealzewski (I used to be able to know how to spell it ) but those fighters refused to come to the U.S. and RJJ refused to go over there. Neither camps had to budge and they didnt.

When you bring up names like Casamayor, Freitas, Tszyu, etc....there were no such limitations. They were fighting in the U.S. and wouldve fought Floyd on his terms. When RJJ was at the top of 168-175 the best fighters in or around those divisions were overseas and refused to come to the states.

When you say Floyd beat everybody that was around, I dont know how you can say RJJ didnt do the same thing given what he had to work with. Its not his fault that he weighed in at 175lbs.

Why is Roy fine with holding a oversees tours these days huh




There is no defending Roy he ducked those names because they were legit competition,........


Floyd fought the best in a loaded WW divisions Judah, ODH, Mosley, Cotto Hatton, who gives a fukk about Freitas, Casamayor, and Tyzyu and the dumb shyt is they all would have fought Floyd had they not lost in the set up fight, you know that stop trolling nikka

The difference with Roy is he was styling and profiling in a already weak division picking on the easist fighters he could, while ducking challenges ducking mandatories abandoning and not givng a fukk the lhw lineage, Roy is chump, point blank period