Why is Roy fine with holding a oversees tours these days huh
...
And Does taking one loss or being hurt in a fight mean your not prime anymore
RIGHT???So that means Hatton, Margerito, and Shane were in their primes when Pac beat em right ??
its damned if he do and damned if he don'tMan stop it. The difference is....the fighters I named were all in their primes when FMJ had the opportunity to face them. The fighters you named that he fought were not. Judah coming off a lost to Baldomir who you consistently shyt on as a journeyman...but its a good win for Floyd now right?ODLH who wasnt even staying in shape and was basically a part time promoter. Mosley was done for by the time Floyd got to him...I told people they was getting too hyped about that fight when it would be no competition. Only thing nikkas got to hold on to is that one punch Shane landed. Hatton...had no business at WW and Collazo proved that. Cotto? Past prime too and ruined from plaster.
Floyd had a chance to face both Casa and Freitas when they were undefeated...but who the fukk is gonna wait around when you got mouths to feed? You can say Floyd waited for them to lose like he did Manny, then say...see, told u the bytch wasnt on my level. :mike: Tszyu was only once beaten from what I remember and destroyed Mitchell who was easily outboxing everyone at 140 at the time. Hatton stole the thunder that shouldve been Floyds on that one.
There couldve been a prime Mosley fight but it never made sense to either. When Shane was big he didnt need Floyd and vise versa....thats why that fight came 7 years too damn late.
I dont count guys like PWill and Margs because Floyd was at a much higher level than them. The other guys were on Floyd's peer level at times where the fights couldve been made.
He got rid of his primary threat, Corrales...but imagine Floyd's legacy had he done that then beat Casa and Freitas...and say defeated prime Mosley or been the guy to retire Tszyu...not Hatton? No doubt he would be much higher on all-time P4P lists than he currently is.
its damned if he do and damned if he don't
i love how ppl just dismiss mosley and hatton as bums
i distinctly remember the public saying he was scared of both
and if he had chose to fight someone else instead of mosley or hatton, you would be saying he ducked them as well
he wanted to fight both of them dudes
floyd tried making fights with all them guys
he's called them out in interviews
it takes two to make a fight
as his body started to naturally grow, he was more focused on high profile fights that would get his name out there
clearly it worked
Zab been shot since Tszyu sparked him, you dont go from being undisputed undefeated champs to losing to 10+ loss journeyman without being shot
I do admit he's far more mentally tougher these days but he still is what he is, a good measuring stick, LM didnt pass that test........................
its damned if he do and damned if he don't
i love how ppl just dismiss mosley and hatton as bums
i distinctly remember the public saying he was scared of both
and if he had chose to fight someone else instead of mosley or hatton, you would be saying he ducked them as well
he wanted to fight both of them dudes
floyd tried making fights with all them guys
he's called them out in interviews
it takes two to make a fight
as his body started to naturally grow, he was more focused on high profile fights that would get his name out there
clearly it worked
What do 3 random quotes have to do with anything we discussed today whether Manny or Roy, and the one qutoe about Manny was I criticizing him or Roach, you got sonned so bad you checking my post history
its damned if he do and damned if he don't
i love how ppl just dismiss mosley and hatton as bums
i distinctly remember the public saying he was scared of both
and if he had chose to fight someone else instead of mosley or hatton, you would be saying he ducked them as well
he wanted to fight both of them dudes
floyd tried making fights with all them guys
he's called them out in interviews
it takes two to make a fight
as his body started to naturally grow, he was more focused on high profile fights that would get his name out there
clearly it worked
I dont remember it happening like that. I remember after Floyd beat Corrales in Jan then start saying "who is Casamayor and who is Freitas? I beat Corrales, they need to fight each other and then we will get it on" then the following Jan, they did and Floyd didnt fight either of them...instead he moved up to fight Castillo because he thought stylistically he was easier than Freitas or Casa....and found himself in a fight.
Floyd chased titles in weight classes, it had nothing to do with he couldnt make weight anymore. Just dont go telling me he cleaned out divisions that had two undefeated champions in it. It is what it is but Floyd apologists take it too far saying he actually wanted a fight and it didnt get made. If he wants it, its a done deal. Like Casa and Freitas were like nah..cuz we can make more fighting each other.
I dont remember it happening like that. I remember after Floyd beat Corrales in Jan then start saying "who is Casamayor and who is Freitas? I beat Corrales, they need to fight each other and then we will get it on" then the following Jan, they did and Floyd didnt fight either of them...instead he moved up to fight Castillo because he thought stylistically he was easier than Freitas or Casa....and found himself in a fight.
Floyd chased titles in weight classes, it had nothing to do with he couldnt make weight anymore. Just dont go telling me he cleaned out divisions that had two undefeated champions in it. It is what it is but Floyd apologists take it too far saying he actually wanted a fight and it didnt get made. If he wants it, its a done deal. Like Casa and Freitas were like nah..cuz we can make more fighting each other.
he tried to get the fight with them two again, but like i already said, it takes two to make a fight.had no problem doing it after floyd whopped him tho
So you are criticizing Floyd for fighting the number p4p # 1 lightweight in Castillo, you rather him fight fukking freitas and Casamayor
take care of all business at your weight class then you can say you cleaned it out. Floyd did NOT clean out 130.fukk up nikkaCastillo was number one after he upset Stevie Johnson who had been # 1 for a while and had been calling out Shane and Floyd but neither would fight him. Between the time where Floyd and Castillo fought almost a year and a half had gone by and Casa and Freitas had fought each other. In that time Floyd fought Hernandez and Chavez....not bad opponents but Freitas and Casa were better, undefeated and had titles. So he had a year and a half to fight those two instead of the other two and still meet Castillo at the same time he ended up fighting him in the first place. All I am saying is replace Hernandez and Chavez with Casa and Freitas.
What I am saying again is...be consistent. I am not criticizing the Castillo fight but he couldve fought guys in his division that were certainly viewed as better bets than Castillo. Castillo turned out to be a good fighter but at the time he was looking like an easy vick to the public...while people wanted to see the 130lb division cleaned out.
Dont be around here talmbout Garcia needs to fight Broner and shyt cuz he cleaned out a division...NO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhIB8be86w4
he fought two more fights at that weight and then said
"this is my last fight at 130 pounds, i can't make the weight no more"
why is that so hard to believe
"i want to fight prince nasseem or the winner of casamoyor, freitas"
"i been trying to get casa and freitas in the past, these guys don't wanna fight me, so i'm moving on to bigger and better things"
he was done with that weight class and moved up to fight the best at 135
than rematched him right away after a tough fight
he called out prime mosley and mosley ain't want no parts of him till the end.
the same mosley roach said he ain't putting pacquaio in the ring with because he is too dangerous
i believe that you predicted easy work for floyd against mosley, but that wasn't what the public was saying until after floyd won.
