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Feel a bit bad for Bud. That was a career defining win for him. Win of his life actually. Just not enough to be fighter of the year if we’re being honest.

Also, I don’t like him seemingly begging to be fighter of the year on twitter. Makes him look like he’s not FOTH even more. Not a good look.

It was enough for me, you don’t get to beat another p4p top guy so bad that the rematch is delayed to the next year in the defining rivalry of a boxing generation to not be foty on some “oh but he only fough once” technicality which isn’t even a real thing. One fight that had great significance and not because it was for undisputed but because it was THE fight hardcore fans wanted the most, undisputed was just cherry on top. And he won it with the best performance in a big fight we’ve seen in a long time.

Respect to Inoue and Haney but it feels disrespectful or at least forgetful to not give Bud his accolades after that. Ain’t no way a win over Tapales expected by everyone should change that.
 

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Crawford/bomac have repeatedly downplayed spence and have said openly he isn't a hofer, so why would he deserve foty off one fight?
It’s not Bud and Bo Mac who decide what accolades Spence had.
They might as well just talked shyt but either way if anything it’s up to the generally most accepted ratings. Spence being a top 5-6 P4P on both TBRB’s and RING’s list won’t chenge in retrospect.

But you know this exactly :heh:
 

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It was enough for me, you don’t get to beat another p4p top guy so bad that the rematch is delayed to the next year in the defining rivalry of a boxing generation to not be foty on some “oh but he only fough once” technicality which isn’t even a real thing. One fight that had great significance and not because it was for undisputed but because it was THE fight hardcore fans wanted the most, undisputed was just cherry on top. And he won it with the best performance in a big fight we’ve seen in a long time.

Respect to Inoue and Haney but it feels disrespectful or at least forgetful to not give Bud his accolades after that. Ain’t no way a win over Tapales expected by everyone should change that.
Inoue went undisputed TWICE in about 12 months. Literally unheard of. Moved up a division to do it too.

I can’t remember a fighter getting FOTH when fighting only once. I remember Teo got it for sparking Comey and then dethroning Loma. Not just Loma. Like someone said in that YouTube comment - they didn’t give it to Canelo when he beat GGG either.

Also, with Spence, he looked so bad the fight looked lopsided. Almost felt like an uneven matchup. Didn’t look like himself at all. That might add to all this as well.

I can’t remember a fighter getting FOTH when fighting only once. I remember Teo got it for sparking Comey and then dethroning Loma. And like someone said in that YouTube comment - they didn’t give it to Canelo when he beat GGG either. Takes more than a big win.

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Gervonta Davis Shuts Down Talk of Fighting Naoya Inoue: ‘He’s [Nowhere] Near My Weight’​

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BY SEAN NAM
Published Wed Dec 27, 2023, 05:32 PM EST
Hard-hitting southpaw star Gervonta Davis doesn’t understand why some people continue to fantasize about a fight between himself and Japanese dynamo Naoya Inoue.
In Davis’ view, what he feels is a chasmic weight gap between them makes a fight highly unrealistic so as to render any speculation ridiculous.
In response to a social media post by a podcast promoting that fantasy matchup, Baltimore’s Davis, a career lightweight who has fought as high as the junior welterweight limit of 140 pounds, brushed off suggestions that he is on some sort of collision course with Inoue, the multi-division and current undisputed 122-pound champion who began his career at a tender 108 pounds.
“I’m not fighting him,” Davis posted on Instagram. “He’s NO WHERE near my weight..[I don’t know] why this page keep posting sh!t like this.”
Talk of a Davis vs. Inoue fight has cropped every now and again, with a vast swath of fans, pundits, and industry insiders entertaining the idea, as it pits two of the most dynamic knockout artists in the sport. Even outgoing Showtime Sports president Stephen Espinoza, a longtime backer of Davis, once expressed curiosity about that matchup.
Inoue, 30, himself has downplayed a hypothetical fight with Davis, saying it is nothing more than “hype” from fans.
Inoue (26-0, 23 KOs) is coming off a 10th-round beatdown of Marlon Tapales on Tuesday in Tokyo to unify all four belts in the 122-pound division. He achieved the undisputed distinction in the 118-pound division last year.
The 29-year-old Davis (29-0, 27 KOs) last fought in April, stopping fellow American star Ryan Garcia in seven rounds in their high-profile pay-per-view event at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.
 

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Gervonta Davis Shuts Down Talk of Fighting Naoya Inoue: ‘He’s [Nowhere] Near My Weight’​

gervonta-davis-hafey%20(5)_1680912482.jpg

BY SEAN NAM
Published Wed Dec 27, 2023, 05:32 PM EST
Hard-hitting southpaw star Gervonta Davis doesn’t understand why some people continue to fantasize about a fight between himself and Japanese dynamo Naoya Inoue.
In Davis’ view, what he feels is a chasmic weight gap between them makes a fight highly unrealistic so as to render any speculation ridiculous.
In response to a social media post by a podcast promoting that fantasy matchup, Baltimore’s Davis, a career lightweight who has fought as high as the junior welterweight limit of 140 pounds, brushed off suggestions that he is on some sort of collision course with Inoue, the multi-division and current undisputed 122-pound champion who began his career at a tender 108 pounds.
“I’m not fighting him,” Davis posted on Instagram. “He’s NO WHERE near my weight..[I don’t know] why this page keep posting sh!t like this.”
Talk of a Davis vs. Inoue fight has cropped every now and again, with a vast swath of fans, pundits, and industry insiders entertaining the idea, as it pits two of the most dynamic knockout artists in the sport. Even outgoing Showtime Sports president Stephen Espinoza, a longtime backer of Davis, once expressed curiosity about that matchup.
Inoue, 30, himself has downplayed a hypothetical fight with Davis, saying it is nothing more than “hype” from fans.
Inoue (26-0, 23 KOs) is coming off a 10th-round beatdown of Marlon Tapales on Tuesday in Tokyo to unify all four belts in the 122-pound division. He achieved the undisputed distinction in the 118-pound division last year.
The 29-year-old Davis (29-0, 27 KOs) last fought in April, stopping fellow American star Ryan Garcia in seven rounds in their high-profile pay-per-view event at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.

Honorable. Although I swear I saw an interview where he was kind of linking his chops at the thought. Hopefully his new found faith will make him force some legacy fights.
 

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I didn't switch anything, I've been the most rational everything I said about Eyeballs was pre fight, during the fight and after I gave Bud his props, I still think the nikka is a clown thus he looks stupid as shyt crying on Twitter for folks to care about him. The nikka managed his career terribly and the Spence fight was more so Spence being stubborn and Bud hitting a lick then anything else. nikka can box his ass off but he is a clown.

What does him looking stupid and being a clown have to do with him not being FOTY?

Again... I agree. He's not fighter of the year. Haney and Inoue did more this year. Crawford best the bigger name but it was just that one fight.
 

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pretty much, dude doing all this campaigning on social media and nobody gives a shyt lol. With Bud we got 1 month of everyone saying he was that guy lol.
relax. weren't people criticizing Bud for being boring and not promoting himself, now he's constantly promoting himself and staying in the boxing news cycle, despite having a fight no one cares about, and now that's a problem :dead:
there not being a bud era got more to do with him being frozen out more than anything, he was begging for the spence fight 5-6 yrs ago. it is what it is though. At least he been top 3 P4P over them years and got paid. Now he's #1 or #2 PHP at worst likely until he either retires or loses
 

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I think Tank is mostly focused on boxing, but if Islam can make him remove all the other external goofy shyt he occasionally gets into it can take him to another level
kind of funny he did this at a mosque deep in the trenches then immediately threatens to put hands on somebody
 
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