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reservoirdogs

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Not sure I have Keith winning this one against Stanionis :patrice:
imo Thurman is a bad style matchup for Stanionis, he struggled somewhat with Dulorme’s speed and movement iirc, he’d struggle with tracking Thurman down too.
I don’t know what kind of Thurman should I expect aftwr another 2 years out the ring though and he was always kind of fragile too.
 

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imo Thurman is a bad style matchup for Stanionis, he struggled somewhat with Dulorme’s speed and movement iirc, he’d struggle with tracking Thurman down too.
I don’t know what kind of Thurman should I expect aftwr another 2 years out the ring though and he was always kind of fragile too.

I agree with all of that. But in reality with Keith's age and inactivity, I'm not sure

What's the phrase again, power is the last thing to go in an aging fighter, but punch resistance is the first? Lol
 

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The system of mutual favors and short-cuts benefits the most powerful promoters just as much as the organizations, it further ensures their leading role in the market, it’s not their interest this system to end.
Great point, and tbh probably the biggest factor in the organisations continuing to operate, corruptly, without issue, in the manner that they do.
 

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Thing is someone would have to force them to do so. The IBF was forced by the FBI I think but the WBC is based in Mexico, WBO in PR and WBA in Panama and it seems like the authorities in those countries are not in a hurry to investigate their obvious corruption.
Problem is also nobody calls for their arrest either, unless a disgruntled fighter does it at one point. The system of mutual favors and short-cuts benefits the most powerful promoters just as much as the organizations, it further ensures their leading role in the market, it’s not their interest this system to end. It only the interest of fans and less powerful fighters, promoters but anyway if a fighter would even entertain the thought to get at their neck they risk being blackballed by the industry as a retirsion for fukking with their money.

I think to help this, it would be great if there was a monetary penalty to Boxers who refuse to face their mandatories. Like how they do fines in the NBA or NFL. That way the Boxing organizations can have some financial incentive to not take payola from corrupt promoters
 

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I think to help this, it would be great if there was a monetary penalty to Boxers who refuse to face their mandatories. Like how they do fines in the NBA or NFL. That way the Boxing organizations can have some financial incentive to not take payola from corrupt promoters
Problem is though that “who becomes the next mandatory?” and “when the mandatory fight will be ordered?” are two questions that only the governing bodies decide about. And besides the IBF all the other three bodies are keen to not follow any rules but just suddenly pop fighters on their rankings out of the blue obviously as a result of some promoter lobby in front of the whole world cause they know exactly that nobody’s gonna do anything about it. I think the only way the circle of corruption could end is forcing the hands of the organizations, not the fighters themselves.
 
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