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2 loses with valdez and nelo, 2 abandonments with Garcia and ruiz

What’s going on :lupe:
Frank Sanchez left them and Julio Cesar Martinez lost to Chocolatito early this year...Martinez is fighting this weekend..we will see if he takes another L
 

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2 loses with valdez and nelo, 2 abandonments with Garcia and ruiz

What’s going on :lupe:
Don't know what's behind the scenes, maybe he focuses too much on Canelo but it's strange these dudes that looked by far the best with Reynoso leaving him. Except for Ruiz but not sure if that's on anybody else than him.
Ryan Garcia leaves him for Goosen then hands in a subpar performance against Tagoe while all his fights with Reynoso were KOs and Frank Sanchez follows him there? :what:

As for his losses... other than the Canelo one they were all expected, like no trainer gonna bring more out of Valdez against Stevenson, just a horrific style matchup and similarly Chocolatito would have beaten Martinez whoever is in Martinez's corner.
Only the Canelo fight was an upset and even that had most people "He lost to a very skilled, big man, seems like 175 is a step too far, oh well... :yeshrug:

No doubt his stable has a just as terrible year as it was great last year but a lot of the criticism feels unfair knowing the context
 

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:patrice: That's debatable. Does AJ still have his reported breakdown? Does Big Baby put on the performance of a lifetime in his hometown?
The man was on a super soldier cocktail...that is the reason why he gained weight instead of trimming down and had a freakish workrate that rivalled a middleweight...I refuse to do a debatable for him lol
 

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Reynoso is the most overrated trainer in boxing.
Canelo and Martinez were both the favorites and both got the boxing lessons of a life time.

Valdez was never gon beat Shakur, but he prolly looks better or tries harder with Robert Garcia or someone else instead of Reynoso. You barely ever hear that nikka even say anything in the gym footage. Canelo scary ass be training everybody. Ruiz left cuz he got tired of a middleweight barking at him to work harder. :mjlol:
 

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Reynoso is the most overrated trainer in boxing.
Canelo and Martinez were both the favorites and both got the boxing lessons of a life time.

Valdez was never gon beat Shakur, but he prolly looks better or tries harder with Robert Garcia or someone else instead of Reynoso. You barely ever hear that nikka even say anything in the gym footage. Canelo scary ass be training everybody. Ruiz left cuz he got tired of a middleweight barking at him to work harder. :mjlol:
I wonder if his weight was one of the issues. We’ll see what he comes in at
 

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Reynoso is the most overrated trainer in boxing.
Canelo and Martinez were both the favorites and both got the boxing lessons of a life time.

Valdez was never gon beat Shakur, but he prolly looks better or tries harder with Robert Garcia or someone else instead of Reynoso. You barely ever hear that nikka even say anything in the gym footage. Canelo scary ass be training everybody. Ruiz left cuz he got tired of a middleweight barking at him to work harder. :mjlol:
DJ finna take his crown
 

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Vito Mielnicki To Fight Joe Eli Hernandez On Garcia-Benavidez Undercard 7/30

BY KEITH IDEC
Published Mon Jun 20, 2022, 05:25 PM EDT
Vito Mielnicki Jr. has an opponent for his July 30 fight in Brooklyn.

BoxingScene.com has learned that the 20-year-old welterweight will meet Mexico’s Joe Eli Hernandez on the Danny Garcia-Jose Benavidez Jr. undercard at Barclays Center. The bout between Mielnicki and Hernandez could be scheduled for eight or 10 rounds and will mark Mielnicki’s second fight with head trainer Raul “Chino” Rivas in his corner.

Mielnicki (11-1, 7 KOs) has won three straight fights since Philadelphia’s James Martin upset him by majority decision 14 months ago in Los Angeles. The Roseland, New Jersey native most recently out-pointed Dan Karpency (9-5-1, 4 KOs) unanimously in an eight-rounder that was part of the Errol Spence Jr.-Yordenis Ugas undercard April 16 at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas.

Mielnicki was supposed to meet Martin (8-3-1, 0 KOs) in an immediate rematch last July 31 at Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey. Martin came in 4½ pounds overweight, however, and Mielnicki instead stopped 11th-hour replacement Noah Kidd in the second round.

Hernandez lost an eight-round unanimous decision to unbeaten Reshat Mati in his most recent fight. Staten Island’s Mati (12-0, 7 KOs) won all eight rounds, 80-72, on each scorecard against Hernandez on the Katie Taylor-Amanda Serrano undercard April 30 at Madison Square Garden in New York.

The 25-year-old Hernandez (12-2, 10 KOs) had won 10 straight fights, nine by knockout, before Mati beat him.

The July 30 card will feature Garcia’s first fight since Spence beat him by unanimous decision in their 12-round welterweight title fight in December 2020 at AT&T Stadium. Philadelphia’s Garcia (36-3, 21 KOs), a former champion in the 140-pound and 147-pound divisions, also will make his debut at the junior middleweight maximum of 154 pounds when he battles Benavidez (27-1-1, 18 KOs) in Showtime’s main event.

Phoenix’s Benavidez boxed to a 10-round majority draw with Argentina’s Francisco Torres (17-3-1, 5 KOs) in his last fight. That November 13 bout at Footprint Center in Phoenix was Benavidez’s first fight in three years.

Brooklyn heavyweight Adam Kownacki (20-2, 15 KOs) will encounter Turkey’s Ali Demirezen (16-1, 12 KOs) in Showtime’s co-feature July 30. Kownacki will try to rejuvenate his career after back-to-back technical-knockout losses to Robert Helenius (31-3, 20 KOs).

Showtime’s tripleheader will begin July 30 with a 10-round bout between unbeaten junior welterweight contender Gary Antuanne Russell (15-0, 15 KOs), of Capitol Heights, Maryland, and Cuba’s Rances Barthelemy (29-1-1, 15 KOs, 1 NC).
 

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I don't get it. He's easily the third best at 147. His only lost is to one of the greatest fighters of his generation. But i guess the back and forth between him and Boots got a certain fanbase thinking that he would dominate him.
Can't forget the Spence brigade either lol. To me it's more of the casuals pushing a certain narrative
 
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