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[BlackBalled]

crediting him for beating Trout is one thing....but using that shyt as a litmus test for Floyd or Martinez is....well....:udontknow:

that was more of what Trout wasnt doing, because Trout was boxing good, but he wasnt committing to his punches. throwing...but not trying to land with a lot of them. all we are saying is....there arent too many Trout's out there, Trout is an excellent boxer, but with this fight he showed that he doesnt commit enough to keep high level fighters off of him.

there was a difference between this fight at the Donaire fight. all credit has to be given to Rigo because he stopped Donaire from even THROWING. but when I guy like Trout is throwing just to throw and not to land, its more of an indictment of him as a fighter than what Canelo didnt allow him to do.

I give Canelo credit for beating a solid fighter and a wonderful boxer....anything beyond that is hypothesis.

Who said anything about Floyd or Martinez? Trout is hardly a reflection on how he would do against either of them. I'm not saying at this age he's ready to reign supreme on the pound for pound rankings, but of the active fighters at light middleweight, there are a few that are a genuine threat to him.

Why was he not committing to his punches? He knows how to throw, then why against Alvarez does this struggle appear? Got a taste of Canelo's power shots and that got him weary? Was he elusive enough to make Trout hesitant? Either way, what is the discussion?

I think Trout fought the better man and lost, not going to discredit Trout for that.

We agree he beat a solid fighter, he's good there is no doubt () about that, I just remain pretty confident that he will rule the light middleweight division. I think we will see a improving Canelo in the upcoming years.

I don't understand the criticism for Canelo, as a 22 year old he is making some moves in boxing and proven himself as a pretty solid fighter. Haven't seen anyone claiming he's the second coming of Sugar Ray Robinson. Let's see how he does against future opponents, and speculate afterwards.

 

[surv2syn]

Who said anything about Floyd or Martinez? Trout is hardly a reflection on how he would do against either of them. I'm not saying at this age he's ready to reign supreme on the pound for pound rankings, but of the active fighters at light middleweight, there are a few that are a genuine threat to him.

Why was he not committing to his punches? He knows how to throw, then why against Alvarez does this struggle appear? Got a taste of Canelo's power shots and that got him weary? Was he elusive enough to make Trout hesitant? Either way, what is the discussion?

I think Trout fought the better man and lost, not going to discredit Trout for that.

We agree he beat a solid fighter, he's good there is no doubt () about that, I just remain pretty confident that he will rule the light middleweight division. I think we will see a improving Canelo in the upcoming years.

I don't understand the criticism for Canelo, as a 22 year old he is making some moves in boxing and proven himself as a pretty solid fighter. Haven't seen anyone claiming he's the second coming of Sugar Ray Robinson. Let's see how he does against future opponents, and speculate afterwards.

thats not the overtone I am getting from reading these posts. not saying you personally, but it sure sounds like it to me here. he is a solid fighter as you said. but I see networks and promoters hype these guys every year.

 

[surv2syn]

Golden Girl Promotions

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Golden Girl Promotions

Yes i would smash him with those fishnets on!

 

[Black_Jesus]

me either. everyone gets defensive about it but this is the bullshyt in boxing. why does he deserve Floyd? or Serge for that matter. fighters look to cash out quickly because they know their careers may not be long ones.

I would like to see him against Kirkland, Lara, etc. Let's see him dominate them. (Doubt he would, he didnt dominate Trout.) Then we can truly praise him. Right now he is a highly marketable fighter who is being overhyped for the sake of putting on a major fight. You guys are comical sometimes. Like if Trout won...everybody wouldve been like I wanna see him and Floyd. NO! Trout was his first test. I need to see more before I start just anointing cats.

Is he the next Barrera? A guy with good boxing skill, IQ, power, but the ability to slug? (lets see him slug with Kirkland)

Is he the next Morales? A smart boxer with absolute fearlessness? (no, he backed off Trout after those bodyshots)

Is he another JMM? A technical wizard and 1st rate counterpunching ability? (he is a good counterpuncher over lazy jabs....lets see him counterpunch with a guy like Lara...lets not even get to FMJ yet)

I dont see what he has that stands out to make him this soon to be All Time Great. I see a Miguel Cotto type career at best....and that aint bad but I have to see more before I can even say he will achieve that level.

Wait.... who did Floyd dominate at 154?? Why does he deserve Canelo??

 

[L68]

Golden Girl Promotions

someone photoshop this with the goldenboy logo tho

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[yawn]

Wait.... who did Floyd dominate ar 154?? Why does he deserve Canelo??

If you joking then nikka you a fool

If you're serious then negro you are a fool

 

[GzUp]

Floyd has the belt at 154 and is ranked nber one, who else is there to fight but canelo?

 

[Oroko Saki]

Yes i would smash him with those fishnets on!

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Wait.... who did Floyd dominate at 154?? Why does he deserve Canelo??

If that's the case then why does he deserve Martinez the MW champ?? Who you claim he ducked??

 

[patscorpio]

Yes i would smash him with those fishnets on!

..foolish breh

 

[Black_Jesus]

If you joking then nikka you a fool

If you're serious then negro you are a fool

I wasn't joking at all. @synistr was going on and on about all these other people Canelo needs to fight first before stepping in the ring with Floyd, when Floydie aint beat but two guys at 154...

1. He barely got a split decision against washed up ODLH SIX 6-7 years ago...

2. He beat super washed up Cotto... you know the guy who lost to the nikka Canelo just beat, and got banged up in the process...

But now in order for Canelo to "deserve" a fight with the bytch he has to fight Kirkland... Lara..etc according to synistr

 

[Black_Jesus]

If that's the case then why does he deserve Martinez the MW champ?? Who you claim he ducked??

Who I claim??


Interviewer: "What are your thoughts on fighting Sergio after your bout with Cotto? Since hes said hes willing to cone to 154 and fight you "

The bytch: I think UMM Sergio Martinez UMM would be a good fight for the guy i'm working with UMM UMM Andre Direll

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

I wouldnt go as far to say Trout won the fight but it was a close fight. The KD carried the difference to me (although I didnt score the fight). Trout was never going to get a decision, regardless.

His ring generalship was great, I just didnt feel like he did enough. Really though, from what I saw, take away that KD and Trout deserved no less than a draw.

Like I said earlier, nikkas ain't gotta agree with me on that. I still felt Trout did enough to win. Nobody gonna change my mind on that. I can see a draw or Canelo winning by a point, but neither guy really dominated the other. It was a close fight. You don't see me screaming robbery. I can understand cats having Canelo barely edging it out, but to make it seem like Ginger clearly won easy is crazy. People keep saying Trout was pitty patting, but I never once saw Canelo walk through his punches and just let his hands go since Trout's shots didn't hurt. Trout kept Canelo honest. Then you got nikkas thinking Canelo was the only one with defense, when I can recall Trout making Canelo miss with plenty of those haymakers he was throwing. People saying Trout wasn't aggressive enough but he made the fight and threw like 300 more punches.

If Canelo gets a fight with Floyd, and pulls off this same type of performance, I wonder if he'll get the decision or will it go to Floyd. If I'm Floyd, I'd be afraid to box this kid 12 rds if he's getting 118-109 type score cards in a fight that competitive.

 

[surv2syn]

I wasn't joking at all. @synistr was going on and on about all these other people Canelo needs to fight first before stepping in the ring with Floyd, when Floydie aint beat but two guys at 154...

1. He barely got a split decision against washed up ODLH SIX 6-7 years ago...

2. He beat super washed up Cotto... you know the guy who lost to the nikka Canelo just beat, and got banged up in the process...

But now in order for Canelo to "deserve" a fight with the bytch he has to fight Kirkland... Lara..etc according to synistr

Floyd isnt really a JMW. I could care less if he fights Canelo. Whether its JMW or WW. You dont just walk in the game beat a

Mosley and win a close fight over Trout and then be annointed God Almighty. Just because there is no fight on the table, people have to manufacture someone to face FMJ in a big money fight. I am not saying he has to fight those other guys....I am just saying why doesnt he? I know why he wont. Because he doesnt have to. If there is a chance of fighting Floyd, why should he?

I am not the most ardent Floyd supporter. He has ducked fights just like anyone else. But look at his resume. He fought guys back in the 90's that were better than anyone Canelo has faced. Why the hell does he deserve a shot at Mayweather?

I hate when people hype these guys up like this. Fighting guys like Ndou (a guy who cant beat Malinaggi at 140 ), fought Matthew Hatton for the vacant title....you cant be serious. Kermit Cintron who was previously seen Beating up on JWW's like Lopez may be fine to most but its when people make it look like he is some unstoppable force. He's 22 blah blah....HBO had yall nikkas believing the same thing about Ortiz when he was 22-23 and that was only like 3 years ago.

He beat Trout. A good fighter. He didnt dominate him by any means. That gives me no reason to believe he just blows any other JMW out the water and certainly doesnt mean he is a serious threat to give Floyd his first loss.