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[The axe murderer]

 

[Yuzo]

Slipping the right or not is really interesting to me. I was taught to do it and used to do it a lot (still do sometimes actually out of habit/reflex) until I was working with a decent pro who is very good defensively and advised me against for similar reasons to the brother here is stating. Then I started training at a gym where they push a benton/qawi/toney style where you keep your head offline towards your rear hand which makes it harder to slip the right because you head has to travel so far to do that

I love hearing people's take on this

thats very true what you said. fighters that square their hips will be more biased to the inside slip and fighters that keep their hips three quarter or sideways will be more biased to the outside slip for the reasons you brought up.

thats important to know which way a guy likes to move his head, so that, when you jab, after you move his head with it you know where to follow up with the right hand.

 

[patscorpio]

I think Curtis Cokes was Ibeabuchi's trainer

He was

 

[OGBobbyJohnson]

Broner really has just become a name/ gatekeeper


Basically with his record.. he has one more Loss before it’s over over for The Can Man

The new Zab Judah

Peter had insane punching power but was mad flawed as s boxer..I remember I was so pissed with James Toney when he lost to Peter
Edit:Peter had the title in the 5th round if had just went to the body & didn’t get reckless smh

 

[patscorpio]

The new Zab Judah


Peter had insane punching power but was mad flawed as s boxer..I remember I was so pissed with James Toney when he lost to Peter

He wasnt flawed as a boxer...that man actually and legitimately outboxed Toney...2nd fight though..the 1st fight

 

[OGBobbyJohnson]

He wasnt flawed as a boxer...that man actually and legitimately outboxed Toney...2nd fight though..the 1st fight

I thought his footwork was ehh..In the 4th round vs Wlad he threw a nice ass feint tho

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

There was a period where I kept seeing them with butterbean. Are there people that desperate for a white hero they're going to drag up butterbean of all people?




Slipping the right or not is really interesting to me. I was taught to do it and used to do it a lot (still do sometimes actually out of habit/reflex) until I was working with a decent pro who is very good defensively and advised me against for similar reasons to the brother here is stating. Then I started training at a gym where they push a benton/qawi/toney style where you keep your head offline towards your rear hand which makes it harder to slip the right because you head has to travel so far to do that

I love hearing people's take on this

I honestly feel like it depends on what type of boxing style you have when it comes to slipping the right hand or not slipping it. Guys that use a full guard and come forward will prolly slip more than a guy who employs a half guard that is giving off an angle to his opponent.

I feel like anybody that boxes should know how to do both because certain situations may call for it. You might have to press an opponent and knowing how to slip shots coming forward can help with that. Just relying on a high guard and coming forward ain't enough cuz you can catch that Clotty/Pac treatment and never get going.

I personally use the half guard/shoulder roll to defend the right hand more often than not, but will switch to slipping if I gotta get on the inside.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

He wasnt flawed as a boxer...that man actually and legitimately outboxed Toney...2nd fight though..the 1st fight

unlike another heavyweight champion that we know where they looked worse in the rematch after getting a gift in the first fight.

Sam actually improved.

 

[patscorpio]

Top Rank Summer Series - Venue, More Details Revealed
By Jake Donovan

Published On Sat May 30, 2020, 10:33 AM EDT

Boxing’s return to Las Vegas now has an official home.

Full details have been made available for at least the first two shows to be presented by Top Rank under the new Nevada COVID-19 testing protocol for closed-doors events to be held in state. A series of shows will take place every Tuesday and Thursday live on an ESPN platform from the MGM Grand Ballroom Conference Center in Las Vegas.

In addition to the same hosting for all June dates (and likely beyond), comes another common theme: all boxers due to appear on said shows will be required to work with one of two assigned cutmen the series. According to information provided by ESPN’s Mark Kriegel on the most recent edition of State of Boxing on ESPN+, renowned cutmen Jacob “Stitch” Duran and Mike Bazzel will serve on site for all shows and will be made available to boxers through a random draw.

The series will begin June 9, with unbeaten featherweight titlist Shakur Stevenson to make his 130-pound debut in a scheduled 10-round main event versus Puerto Rico’s Felix Caraballo. The bout will top what is now a six-fight card for the summer series debut. The chief support will feature Stevenson’s 2016 U.S. Olympic boxing teammate and current 130-pound contender Mikaela Mayer (12-0, 5KOs), who will face Helen Joseph (17-4-2, 10KOs), a 31-year old Nigerian contender now based out of Hartford, Connecticut.

Two nights later will come a four-fight card, anchored by a pair of featherweight bouts. Former 122-pound titlist Jessie Magdaleno (27-1, 18KOs) aims to extend his two-fight win streak as he faces Dominican Republic’s Yenifel Vicente (36-4-2, 28KOs). In the chief support, Adam “Blunose” Lopez (13-2, 6KOs) faces Luis Coria (12-2, 7KOs) in a rescheduled bout originally targeted for last November in Las Vegas. Both boxers weighed in for the fight, but plans were scrapped when Lopez instead stepped in at the 11th hour to face former featherweight titlist Oscar Valdez, replacing a massively overweight Andres Gutierrez.

Lopez was valiant in defeat, dropping Valdez early before suffering a 7th round stoppage. Coria—a 21-year old prospect from Moreno Valley, California who is trained by Robert Garcia—landed as the odd man out, also having left him without a fight since last June.

that women's fight might be something..a possible upset alert on that

 

[patscorpio]

thats what im talking about

 

[HeruDat1]

Courtesy of the gawd @CHAMPSIDE

Thats my QB. The legacy of Bandz lives on

 

[reservoirdogs]

thats what im talking about

Weird to me that ppl seem to want this more than Sor vs Estrada III given that Sor destroyed Chocolatito but Sor is gonna fight Ruenroeng first anyway so why not

 

[patscorpio]

Weird to me that ppl seem to want this more than Sor vs Estrada III given that Sor destroyed Chocolatito but Sor is gonna fight Ruenroeng first anyway so why not

man i want all the top notch 115 fights...get some unification going...king sor will always be there waiting in the wings to whoop some ass

ratpack

• patscorpio
• Feb 20, 2018

#ratpack

 

[patscorpio]

Top Rank to host most of its June cards in Las Vegas, without fans
By Steve Kim


With boxing set to resume in the United States in June, Top Rank has put forth an early summer schedule of bouts, the majority of which will take place at the MGM Grand Conference Center in Las Vegas, and will be televised on ESPN platforms.

"The goal was to start out with really good, competitive fights, with names that people are familiar with, who have been on ESPN shows," Bob Arum, the head of Top Rank, told ESPN on Saturday.

Arum also said that they eschewed title fights for the first couple of weeks to make things easier in terms of logistics.


These cards will be staged without fans in attendance because of the coronavirus pandemic. The Nevada Athletic Commission has put special guidelines in place.

"This is a sensible way to push ahead," Arum said. "Hopefully the fights will be good -- I know they will be -- but you've got to make sure all the procedures are safe and so forth. Hopefully what we're doing will serve as a template for other promoters to put on shows."

Arum continued, "Hopefully, we will have demonstrated to the authorities, based on these Nevada protocols, that they work."

Here is the rundown of the featured bouts on the upcoming events:

June 9:

Shakur Stevenson (13-0, 7 KOs) vs Felix Caraballo (13-1-2, 9 KOs): Stevenson, the WBO featherweight champion, was scheduled to make the first defense of his belt on March 14 against Miguel Marriaga at the Theater at Madison Square Garden, but that event was cancelled due to the pandemic. This bout is a non-title affair for Stevenson, a 2016 Olympic silver medalist.

Mikaela Mayer (12-0, 5 KOs) vs Helen Joseph (17-4-2, 10 KOs): The undefeated Mayer, who represented the U.S. in the 2016 Olympics, is pining for a title shot by the end of 2020, and in Joseph, who hails from Nigeria, she is facing her toughest test to date as a professional.

June 11:

Jessie Magdaleno (27-1, 18 KOs) vs Yenifel Vicente (36-4-2, 28 KOs): Like Stevenson, Magdaleno was scheduled to fight on March 14 in New York. The former WBO 122-pound champion has notched victories over Rico Ramos and Rafael Rivera since losing his title to Isaac Dogboe in 2018. He is now competing in the featherweight division. Vicente, who hails from the Dominican Republic, has won 11 of his last 12 bouts.

Adam Lopez (13-2, 6 KOs) vs Luis Coria (12-2, 7 KOs): Lopez gained notoriety last Thanksgiving weekend by agreeing to face Oscar Valdez at the 11th hour (Valdez's originally scheduled opponent failed to make weight) and put up a strong performance -- even dropping Valdez early in the bout -- before getting stopped in the seventh. Coria was originally supposed to be his opponent that weekend at the Cosmopolitan of Las Vegas.

June 16:

Joshua Greer Jr. (22-1-1, 12 KOs) vs Mike Plania (23-1, 12 KOs): Greer, a native of Chicago, is looking for a title shot in the bantamweight division. Ranked No. 1 by the WBO and second in the IBF (ESPN has him ranked 10th), it's just a matter of time before he fights for a major belt. But he has to get past Plania of the Philippines, who comes in with an eight-fight winning streak.

Giovanni Santillan (25-0, 15 KOs) vs Antonio Demarco (33-8-1, 24 KOs): Santillan is an unbeaten southpaw who recently signed a co-promotional deal with Top Rank. He makes his debut with the company by facing the well-seasoned Demarco, who at one time was the WBC lightweight champion after rallying to defeat the highly regarded Jorge Linares in 2011. During his career, Demarco has battled the likes of Edwin Valero, Adrien Broner and Jessie Vargas, among others.

June 18:

Jose Pedraza (26-3, 13 KOs) vs Mikkel LesPierre (22-1-1, 10 KOs): Pedraza is a fighter looking to rebound after getting outpointed by Jose Zepeda over 10 rounds in September. He briefly held the WBO lightweight title after defeating Ray Beltran in the summer of 2018, but then lost that belt to Vasiliy Lomachenko later that year. In March 2019, LesPierre challenged WBO junior welterweight titlist Maurice Hooker and dropped a unanimous decision.

Gabe Flores Jr. (17-0, 6 KOs) vs Josec Ruiz (21-2-3, 14 KOs): Flores, who is steadily developing his skills, in 2016 became the youngest boxer to ever sign with Top Rank, at the age of 16. Still just 20 years old, he is now looking to develop his physical maturity to go along with his boxing acumen. Ruiz comes into this contest having won seven consecutive outings, five of them by stoppage.

June 20 (TV Azteca Studios in Mexico City):

Emanuel Navarete (31-1, 27 KOs) vs Uriel Lopez (13-13-1, 6 KOs): Navarrete is the defending WBO 122-pound champion, but this will be a 10-round non-title affair. Since defeating Dogboe for the belt in December 2018, he has become one of the most active world-class boxers. He put in four title defenses in 2019, and on the Tyson Fury-Deontay Wilder II undercard on Feb. 22, he halted Jeo Santisima in 11 rounds.

June 23:

Andrew Moloney (21-0, 14 KOs) vs Joshua Franco (16-1-2, 8 KOs): One half of the Moloney duo from Australia, Andrew, holds a version of the WBA 115-pound title. He had been scheduled to fight in Tulsa, Oklahoma, on April 17 before that event was canceled. In Franco, he's facing a solid fighter who never shies away from a skirmish. He engaged in a memorable three-fight set against Oscar Negrete, and he walked away with a split-decision victory and two draws.

Christopher Diaz (25-2, 16 KOs) and Jason Sanchez (15-1, 8 KOs): Diaz bounced back from his loss to Stevenson in April 2019 by defeating Adeilson Dos Santos on Jan. 18 to kick off 2020. Last year, Sanchez gained valuable experience by going the distance against Valdez, who at the time was the WBO champion at 126. After that defeat, he came back to beat Dos Santos, knocking him out in four rounds.

 

[Conscious Pilot]

Yeah I saw the Top Rank news on BoxingKingdom but didn’t know if it was legit or not.. seems like it is