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in the end froch has the names on his record...dude has 4 notable zeros...obviously debatable though and he put some work in the division
froch was always a caveman to me
he beat pascal in a legit war
he would have lost his belt to a near shot jermain taylor if he didn't KO him
he got a mean gift against andre dirrell - he was lucky to not lose his belt
showed he could actually box competently against abraham and damn near blanked him (i lost some money on this and litzau beating caballero that night)
lost to kessler in the best fight in the whole super six tournament but avenged it
dude had a close competitive fight with glen johnson who drained to enter the tournament
lost clear to a one handed ward
best victory in taking bute's zero - this should have been ward doing this and its still a mistake from him
was losing to groves the first time around before winning via british ref stoppage, won clearer the next time around
De La Hoya Reveals Receiving Threat From Cartel Before Chavez Fight
By BoxingScene Staff
Published On Mon May 18, 2020, 04:23 AM EDT
In a recent interview with Yahoo Sports, Golden Boy Promotions CEO Oscar De La Hoya revealed that he received threats from a Mexican drug trafficker prior to his fight with Julio Cesar Chavez.
In 1996, De La Hoya defeated Chávez in just four rounds and captured the World Boxing Council (WBC) junior welterweight title.
The victory was historic for De La Hoya, but it earned him the contempt of Mexico's boxing fans.
Chavez is widely regarded as the greatest fighter to come out of Mexico. And during his career he was treated like a mega-star in the country.
In the first encounter, Chavez suffered a cut in the first round. It grew worse, round by round, and eventually led to the fight being stopped. There were rumors that Chavez entered the fight with a pre-existing cut that he sustained during training camp.
They had a rematch two years later, which was tougher than the first contest, but De La Hoya still came away with another stoppage win, this time in eight rounds.
But before the initial clash, De La Hoya was under a lot of pressure with threats of violence if he beat Chavez.
"The cartels went to my camp, for Julio César Chávez, due to his importance.. they went to Big Bear (California) and threatened me, that if I won, who knows what would have happened.. imagine the pressure, it was just crazy," De La Hoya said.
To make matters worse, De La Hoya also disclosed that he received a letter from the former president of Mexico, Ernesto Zedillo, who asked De La Hoya not to carry the Mexican flag on his trunks for the Chávez fight.
“The government of Mexico threatened me that if I wore a patch with the Mexican flag on my trunks, which I was used to wearing... the flag of Mexico and the United States, they would never let me in (the country) again. I even have the letter, signed by President (Ernesto) Zedillo," De La Hoya concluded.
reservoirdogs
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I was MAD at that stoppage at the first Groves fight, thought Groves gonna avenge it in the rematch, well...
and yes the Dirrell fight was a gift but to be fair idk if I would pick any of the current top 168ers, not counting Canelo to bet that version of Dirrell either
That 168 division was pretty deep
reservoirdogs
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I think Chavez's family is somehow related to Sinaloa Cartel, by the way of some marriage so I'm not surprised.
Disgusting move from the Mexican government though
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
Amare's Right Hook
Southeast World Champion
Wow @ the letter for the government...…..the other day. I opened and read it, it said they was suckas.
They wanted me not to wear flag or whatever
Picture me giving a damn, I said never.
Rep for this
ChocolateGiddyUp
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Swift is at 160 N breaks the Nephews face 
Groves nearly got Froch out of there in round 1...30 more secs and that would have been a reality
I will say this..Froch vs Dirrell was not an easy watch by any means...but froch couldn't do ANYTHING to dirrell. cuz he couldn't catch him or cut off the ring on him...meanwhile Dirrell was the one countering him and rocking him like twice...froch basically won the fight on ineffective aggression even though he didn't land shyt...and you know he had a hard time cuz this mfr fouling like crazy lol but dirrell was the one who got a point took and got warnings...fukk outta here
168 had a nice little renaissance man...super six was good for it even with its flaws..showtime needs to back more tournaments in these divisions
reservoirdogs
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Showtime is about to bring boxing-Bellator crossover events not tournaments...Groves nearly got Froch out of there in round 1...30 more secs and that would have been a reality
I will say this..Froch vs Dirrell was not an easy watch by any means...but froch couldn't do ANYTHING to dirrell. cuz he couldn't catch him or cut off the ring on him...meanwhile Dirrell was the one countering him and rocking him like twice...froch basically won the fight on ineffective aggression even though he didn't land shyt...and you know he had a hard time cuz this mfr fouling like crazy lol but dirrell was the one who got a point took and got warnings...fukk outta here
168 had a nice little renaissance man...super six was good for it even with its flaws..showtime needs to back more tournaments in these divisions
Jokes aside... I think Showtime is slowly getting out of the business, hard to see them compete with DAZN/ESPN/FOX for a long time. They probably gonna live a few years more off of their relationship with Haymon, they will get to stage a better card here and there but FOX already took the mantle from them as the premier channel of PBC. Well, not in broadcasting quality cause Showtime's is the best out there in all boxing but in terms of where important cards are being held.
Who knows though once it already seemed it's over for them, when PBC first started and all the other channels started to get the good dates and yet they survived and took back the leading role inside the PBC universe. This sitaution feels different though and the deal between PBC and FOX seems more serious than the earlier time buys.
