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ChocolateGiddyUp
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nikka jus dikkrides Dazn
Dazn can’t even make the fights with the fighters they have in camp
There is absolutely nothing that suggests Dazn would pay Charlo better than what he’d get on Fox or Showtime
reservoirdogs
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iirc DAZN offered more money than PBC for that fight too but Ellerbe didn't want to hear about it cause "Tank is the A side". Dudes should stop feeling entitled about where a fight takes place and just choose the highest money offer. It would be way simpler. Supposing they are really free agents, Tank is not that as far as promoters go but iikir he's not contracually tied to a network. You should compete good offers with even better offers not by making up your mind that you won't go over and hope that the other side gonna be foolish enough to let you have your way and come over to you for less money. That's not how competition works.The same reason Tevin Farmer who was a Free Agent turned down “better money” only it was actually factually better money not a hypothetical
So take your stance that it was ok for Tevin N switch the name for Charlo
Is money the only factor in deciding whether or not a deal is good? Clearly Hearn and Dazn were trying to poach PBC fighters, it wouldn't surprise me if these were multifight deals.
Y'all stay clamoring about Wilder taking $120 million for 4 fights when Joshua just got 80 million to fight fukkin Andy Ruiz.
That double header with the Charlos that took place last year kind of killed their momentum imo. That was a heavily hyped event. It got on my radar, as well as my other fellow casual fans of boxing. We see Jermell lose his title to Harrison. We see Jermall in some boring fight against Korobov. I think I speak for all casual fans that these guys are going to have to do something dramatic to get our support. As a guy that works a lot of hours and a plethora of hobbies, I have no time for guys on the come up.
Im not trying to see your journey to the top. You should already be a million dollar fighter by the time you get to my tv screen.
Im not trying to see your journey to the top. You should already be a million dollar fighter by the time you get to my tv screen.
reservoirdogs
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nikka jus dikkrides Dazn
Dazn can’t even make the fights with the fighters they have in camp
There is absolutely nothing that suggests Dazn would pay Charlo better than what he’d get on Fox or Showtime
Canelo chose DAZN over Showtime/FOX suggest that.
They pay higher purses to their fighters than PBC usually too.
They offered Wilder a 120m deal too, including 20m for Breazeale while he "only" got 7m for it on Showtime.
So yeah there are some things that strongly suggest they throw around more money. You don't have to be a stan of anyone to see that.
reservoirdogs
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So you are saying they HAD more money but now it is more evened out? Ok let's see going forward, at least that's a normal argument
reservoirdogs
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3 fights and normally DAZN doesn't pay 80 to Joshua either, the Saudi money played into that if I know it right. Besides that like it or not Joshua creates more revenue than Wilder hence he gets paid more. Of course, we can argue about the extent of it, let's just say a 60-40 would be fair. I doN't like to argue about purses for hours and whatnot but yeah I feel that's fair. they can't lowball Wilder cause he is the highest income fight to Joshua next to Fury but it's not a 50-50 either cause one of them is clearly making more money.
If Wilder would have gotten 50 for each fights and Joshua like 70 that'd been entirely fair imo.
Your posts are gold
Apparently not
They were overpaying to get into the market, now purses should start falling again at Dazn. Given that info, there's no reason to believe that they would have a better financial offer for Charlo Andrade until negotiations get started.
In any case, it's never as easy as just the money either. We know how boxing gets down, these fighters have been exploited for hella long.
It's been reported as 3 fight deal and a 4 fight deal. $120 million either way.
Look at the position Ruiz was left in. Beats Joshua, and in the rematch is left with 14% of the total purse split. Andy is not Wilder; Wilder has the higher profile, PPV track record, ticket sales, and holds the WBC belt, why would he take that [120mil] deal? His team is not going to jump on an offer like Ruiz did being a last minute replacement.
Also, can we get an estimation of how much greater a draw Joshua is? When we tally up (PPV sales x price) for each, can we see how much revenue they're generating? I'm guessing it's not enough for Joshua to demand a complete lion share. At this point, it's becoming clear Joshua is a greater draw than Fury or Wilder, so I do believe he'd get a higher split, but it's absurd to make it seem like he can call all the shots.
Really, all I'm saying is that the offer wasn't fair, and I think that's being revealed now that we're seeing how much money and demand is being generated from these heavyweight bouts. There isn't a fight greater than Wilder Joshua right now, and the 120 million deal doesn't make sense just as the original 50 million flat fee deal for Joshua doesn't make sense.
ChocolateGiddyUp
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Show me Dazn offer vs PBC offer ... so we can compare N see what deal was better ... I’ll wait
All I heard was they offered Tevin Farmer 2milly which is 4 5 6xs his career high payday... so I’m very interested to hear what number Tank was offered from Dazn that PBC could not match
Charlo gotta cross the street despite facts ... Tank gotta cross the street despite facts... all PBC 147 gotta cross the street AND accept 2 million less that the 2019 version of Amir Khan
... Why is it always outta your fingers that PBC must cross the street N it’s never the other way around? 
Do you have any posts where you suggest someone must fight on fox or showtime with the same energy in your post a lil bit ago ... I’d love to see it friend
