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[patscorpio]

Y’all exaggerated the hell out of that Teofimo fight. He clearly won 8 rounds and he wasn’t as explosive because he wasn’t fighting a can. Just b cause you never heard of a guy doesn’t mean he can’t fight.

standard rule in The Ring - never sleep on the random unknown asian

deenfrancis

• patscorpio
• Jan 20, 2018

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Why didnt Danny Garcia give Mauricio Herrera a rematch after that embarrassing "homecoming" fight.

I guess hes not a real champion either

 

[patscorpio]

that was a sound statement

 

[FreedMind]

Y’all exaggerated the hell out of that Teofimo fight. He clearly won 8 rounds and he wasn’t as explosive because he wasn’t fighting a can. Just b cause you never heard of a guy doesn’t mean he can’t fight.

It comes with the territory. When you're calling out a Lomachenko but struggle against a Nakatani, then ya might have to turn it down a lil.

 

[Bigblackted4]

It comes with the territory. When you're calling out a Lomachenko but struggle against a Nakatani, then ya might have to turn it down a lil.

Winning 8 rounds to me is not struggling. Loma has a loss and lost rounds to Pedraza(also exaggeration of how hard it was). When your in with tough opposition it matter. I still want to see it because to me it would be one of the top 3 most talented fighters he would have faced win lose or draw.

 

[Bigblackted4]

standard rule in The Ring - never sleep on the random unknown asian

deenfrancis

• patscorpio
• Jan 20, 2018

Always hell just look at Manguia

 

[The axe murderer]

At heavyweight it's always been about the skill factor for me, because if you remove that, you just left with mostly big athletic nikkas.

Every other weight division has to deal with fighting taller guys, but when this happens at heavyweight, it seems like mission impossible for most guys. Like the ability to close distance or take away jabs or work the inside is damn near a lost art. So anybody half way decent comes along that knows how to use their reach a bit can be a force. Price just won a fight nobody expected him to just off of employing basic boxing shyt you learn at novice level. At the lighter weights, the same level of opponent would have tested Price a lot more or even pull it off. Samuel Vargas vs Amir Khan is a perfect example, but the only difference was Khan was still the favorite.

Stamina and being in shape to not gas like you said definitely plays a big part too. Since cats don't have to make weight they take it for granted. You gotta have the stamina an endurance to employ your skills.

I swear bruh. And even then the athleticism is
Dudes seem incapable of head movement. Like wlad took a long time to meet anyone with a modicum of head movement before haye
And inside fighting whats that?
Body punching to wear someone down? Only wearing down is holding and putting their weight on someone
Head hunters only and price is one of the few that figured out how to uppercut
I can see why these would be appealing for heavies because its risky out here but
I bet even shredded achilles haye that got murked by bellew still fukks up most heavies today

 

[FreedMind]

Winning 8 rounds to me is not struggling. Loma has a loss and lost rounds to Pedraza(also exaggeration of how hard it was). When your in with tough opposition it matter. I still want to see it because to me it would be one of the top 3 most talented fighters he would have faced win lose or draw.

Definitely an interesting point, and I'm curious to see what others have to say about whether or not Lopez struggled against Nakatani.

Nakatani was a tough opp, and I hope to see him on more cards in the future, but like Max said post fight, these fighters are only going to get tougher for Lopez.

Props to Teofimo, it's important that he get through a hard fight like that when he's coming up. However, the disappointment ultimately lies in the fact that Lopez showed that he doesn't possess the P4P pedigree that was supposed to immediately catapult him into a big money fight against Lomachenko.

In a way the fight derailed a potential Lomachenko bout, but made the Commey fight a whole hell of a lot more interesting.

 

[Bigblackted4]

Definitely an interesting point, and I'm curious to see what others have to say about whether or not Lopez struggled against Nakatani.

Nakatani was a tough opp, and I hope to see him on more cards in the future, but like Max said post fight, these fighters are only going to get tougher for Lopez.

Props to Teofimo, it's important that he get through a hard fight like that when he's coming up. However, the disappointment ultimately lies in the fact that Lopez showed that he doesn't possess the P4P pedigree that was supposed to immediately catapult him into a big money fight against Lomachenko.

In a way the fight derailed a potential Lomachenko bout, but made the Commey fight a whole hell of a lot more interesting.

Then if he KOs Commey or beats the hell out of him it will be more interesting than before

 

[reservoirdogs]

Then if he KOs Commey or beats the hell out of him it will be more interesting than before

Commey might very well caps him

 

[Bigblackted4]

Commey might very well caps him

Very true that’s what would make that win so sweet.

 

[Bigblackted4]

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[HeruDat1]

 

[Scottie Drippin]

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Interesting. I'd flip your overrated and underrated

 

[patscorpio]

Kownacki Regrets Conditioning Kept Him From Taking Joshua Fight

By Keith Idec

Luis Ortiz isn’t the only heavyweight wondering what would’ve happened had he accepted an opportunity to fight former champion Anthony Joshua on short notice.

Adam Kownacki turned down that chance, too, but not only because he also believed he’d challenge WBC champ Deontay Wilder in the foreseeable future. Kownacki wasn’t in good enough condition to cram in a five-week training camp and feel properly prepared for a fight of that magnitude June 1 at Madison Square Garden.

Andy Ruiz Jr. and Kownacki have similar body types. Ruiz was more confident about accepting what turned out to be a career-changing fight, however, because he had boxed about a week before the Joshua fight abruptly became available due to Jarrell Miller’s PED ordeal.

“I could’ve had an opportunity to fight Anthony Joshua, but I was out of shape, so I didn’t [take] the challenge,” Kownacki said during a conference call Tuesday to promote his fight against Chris Arreola on Saturday night. “So, from now on, I’m in boxing and that’s it. Because a title shot could come around the corner on a couple weeks’ notice, because of injuries and accidents happen.”

After watching Ruiz upset Joshua by seventh-round technical knockout, Kownacki really regretted not taking that fight. The Polish-born, Brooklyn-bred contender doesn’t have a style similar to the more skillful Ruiz’s approach, but he now knows Joshua was vulnerable to getting knocked out that night.

“I was upset I was not in any shape,” Kownacki said. “I was not in boxing shape. I wanted the fight. It was my birthday and my wife was pregnant, so I enjoyed life a little bit. Which I regret, because boxing’s my full-time profession. And since that call came, I was like, ‘Yo, I’ve gotta get in shape and make sure that never happens again.’

“So, it was a learning lesson, which maybe stopped me from achieving my goals faster than I would have. But at the time, I wasn’t ready, so it was the right choice. … That’s what life is about. It’s about going through our experiences, learning new lessons and making sure you’re in shape. So, I’ll definitely be in shape now. And if that call comes in the near future, I’ve gotta be ready.”

The 30-year-old Kownacki (19-0, 15 KOs) is plenty ready to go up against Arreola (38-5-1, 33 KOs, 2 NC). Their 12-rounder will headline FOX’s tripleheader from Barclays Center in Brooklyn (8 p.m. ET/5 p.m. PT).

id believe this if dude had not been coming into his fights woefully out of shape already ...dude was on fumes when he went 10 for the one and only time against charles martin..he should have learned a lesson then..but no he doubled down talking about he didnt need to look in shape on the outside and whatnot