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:snoop: I dont think you're hearing me.. I dont know if it's some UK inferiority complex or what. Cause yall seem to have some type of obsession or insecurity about who running boxing. I could care less about what country is running a division or running boxing.
The reason fighters come to America is because you can make the most money here. PERIOD.. The country is built purely off capitalism.. People pay more money here for their entertainment than in the UK... Every fight AJ chooses to have in the UK vs US he is literally losing millions. It's his choice though. AJ could rule a division fighting in America or whichever country.. But hes not maximizing his profits fighting over there.. The only reason Fury wants the rematch in the UK is because he "thinks" he was robbed on the cards. Its literally the only reason.. He dont even realize if the fight had been in the UK the way he got dropped yall refs would've waved the fight off way before a 10 count
youre pocket watching what these nikkas make now..youve gone full retard about deontay wilder and this shyt :heh:
 

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the worst thing theyve done is speed lomachenko through the divisions like they have done...he should have spent some more time at either 126 or 130 before moving up to 135

I think I read somewhere where that Loma said he didn't turn pro with the intentions of wasting time with meaningless fights. They always wanted to fight the best fights at the time for him since he was a little older than most when turning pro.
 

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I need a lil more proof.

Besides not using his right hook, I thought he looked good against Pedraza. He can fight Campbell and Tank in 2019 and afterwards be ready for whatever at 140. Even if the Mikey fight is still out there, I doubt Mikey going back to 135 for it after that Spence fade. shyt would prolly take place at 140 anyway.

I gotta see a Hatton/Collazo type performance from Loma before I start drafting up a ceiling for his greatness. :manny:
Loma ain't fighting hatton/collazo type fighters:manny:
 

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In watching everything and everybody.. Especially a lot of you nikkas on the ring :mjpls:
I've been doing that...esp those that scoffed at wilder vs fury when I first brought it up and nikkas who couldn't see a correlation between deontay wilder and randall bailey.....:mjpls:
 

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Roach is Critical of Corner Work of Fury's Coach in Wilder Fight

Hall of Fame trainer Freddie Roach had a very close view of the heavyweight collision between WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder and challenger Tyson Fury, which took place earlier this month at Staples Center in Los Angeles.

Roach was working in Fury's corner as a cut man, with Fury's head trainer Ben Davison running the corner and being the main voice of strategy.

The contest ended in a controversial twelve round split draw, with Fury getting the nod from one judge with a score of 114-112, one going for Wilder with a score of 115-111 and a draw score of 113-113.

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While many have laid praise on Davison, for reviving Fury's career after the boxer was inactive from November 2015 to June of this year.

But Roach was not entirely pleased with Davison's work that night and felt it could have been a lot better.

“I’m more of an offensive coach, I’m very aggressive, and I was a little bit disappointed with the corner work because Ben was telling him to feint, feint and step back and I said to him ‘why are you telling him to step back? Let this guy fight. He can get rid of this guy’,” Roach said to Fox Sports.

“We haven’t spoken about it yet but we’re going to have a meeting. I think he was very safe. [He said] ‘don’t take chances’. I said ‘wait a minute… don’t take chances? You’re in the boxing ring. You took a chance when you signed the contract for the fight.

"[Fury] hurt him a couple of times and I was disappointed he didn’t get a chance to finish him. It’s funny, Ben gave the exact same instruction to the 126 lbs fighter as he did the heavyweight fighter, so I said ‘wait… why are you treating these people the same?’ These fighters know each other, but they’re not the same. His instructions were the same and choreographed for both guys, so I was a little disappointed.

“He did a great job with the conditioning, the weight loss and all that, and he’s only a 26-year-old kid.”

As far as the rematch, Roach may be involved in the corner once again.

“Possibly. Me, Tyson and his brothers spoke about it and said ‘let’s all go home and enjoy Christmas, we’ll have a meeting in the UK or America with each other’, and we left it at that," Roach said.

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the worst thing theyve done is speed lomachenko through the divisions like they have done...he should have spent some more time at either 126 or 130 before moving up to 135

I disagree. Their goal was always to fast track him, as he turned pro at a later age.

In those smaller weight classes, typically the higher you go up, the higher the purse. Why waste your 1 or 2 fight a year fighting for less money?

This is prize fighting. From a business perspective, it just makes sense.

Now from a boxing perspective? Yeah sure It's always best to move up slowly, but he can clearly handle himself. I thought Loma looked fine in his last fight. He collected TWO belts this year. It's not suppose to be easy. This guy is going to get the best version of whoever he fights due to his status in the sport.

I do agree you that 135 is probably his final weight class, with him only moving up for the "right" fight.
 
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