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To discredit Wlad is blasphemy in my opinion just because he's supposedly boring and not aggressive like his brother doesn't make his accomplishments null. Like I said I Wilder is my guy but his only fight of note is an old Ortiz who only had Braynt on his resume, discrediting Fury's win was also disrespectful. The current heavyweight division is more depressed compared to Wlad's era. Dudes don't like it when people nitpick Wilder's resume so I don't get why Wlad gets shytted on. I guess guys shyt on Wlad is because they feel that Wlad and his brother held up the division for years, maybe it's resentment.

bingo..theres plenty of reasons why

1. the klitschkos arent american
2. the top prime american heavies in their era didnt really make blip on the casual/crossover radar. roy would have made a bigger impact had he stayed at hW and not went back down
3. they were following from one of the greatest decades in heavyweight boxing (the 90s)
4. they didnt need american audiences to make money
5. they weren't what you would call interesting personalities even though they could speak english. the klitschko documentary that aired about them was good shyt

there is more but those are the main
 

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agreed..wlad/vitali era still had some pretty good/great heavyweight fights in that decade..if you were watching and paying attention
I think this HW era is more exciting than the last one but I think at their prime the Klitschkos were better than the elite of today. To be fair though all 3 of they top guys today has room to improve still especially Joshua who is not even 30 yet so it might change once it's all said and done.
Plus there are some new interesting prospects and Usyk the best cruiserweight since Holyfield moving up.
 

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Wlad prime was early 30s. We he damn near passed out in the ring and got slumped he was not the same fighter that ran the division with an iron fist. He learned to fight much more conservatively and his defense got better
Thats like saying Floyd prime is when he turned to Money Mayweather......You know Wlad was a eyesore during his reign, while in his early career, he was one of the most exciting heavies...
 

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Wtf are u talking about? A boxer is in the ring to win not put on a show. That's not a rap concert
We are talking prime and not no other shyt, you said his was in his 30s when he became a holding ass nikka...I disagreed...Fukk are u talking about:dahell:
 

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Former unified middleweight world champion Gennady Golovkin, one of boxing's biggest stars, will decide before the end of the year on his next broadcast partner, Golovkin promoter Tom Loeffler told ESPN on Sunday.

Loeffler said Golovkin is being aggressively pursued by ESPN (in conjunction with its long-term deal with Top Rank) and sports subscription streaming service DAZN, both of which he said have made offers.

"ESPN and DAZN are very interested in Gennady and in the running," Loeffler said. "Both have a big budget for GGG."

GGG, who had been under an exclusive contract with HBO, became a broadcast free agent following his disputed majority decision loss to Canelo Alvarez in their middleweight championship rematch -- the year's biggest-selling boxing pay-per-view fight -- on Sept. 15. His contract with HBO expired with the fight and the network, which announced two weeks after Alvarez-Golovkin II that it would drop its boxing coverage after 45 years of televising most of the biggest fights in the sport, made no effort to retain his services.

On Oct. 17, DAZN signed Alvarez to a record-breaking five-year, 11-fight, $365 million deal to take him off pay-per-view and put him on the streaming service. That deal begins with Alvarez's fight on Dec. 15, when he will move up a weight division for a shot against secondary super middleweight titlist Rocky Fielding at Madison Square Garden in New York.

Loeffler said he plans to meet with Kazakhstan native Golovkin (38-1-1, 34 KOs), 36, in the coming days in Santa Monica, California, where they both live, to present him with the offers on the table and to discuss the merits of each.

"Gennady will make a decision this year on the direction he wants to go in," Loeffler said. "I'm going to give him the pros and cons of each offer and he is the one who will make the final decision."

Loeffler said that wherever Golovkin signs, he plans to be back in the ring sometime between March and May. Also, Loffler said that the platform Golovkin signs with will also become the home for his "Superfly" series and the rest of the fighters he works with, including former pound-for-pound king and four-division world champion Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez, undisputed women's welterweight world champion Cecilia Braekhus, junior welterweight Ryan Martin and a handful of prospects, including welterweight Brian Ceballo.

"We'll get a package deal wherever we go," Loeffler said. "Both ESPN and DAZN are offering good packages."

DAZN wants Golovkin badly because of its desire to make a third fight between Canelo and GGG, a fight Golovkin said he wanted following the loss that cost him his world titles and undefeated record, which came after their highly controversial draw in 2017. But Golovkin has made tens of millions of dollars in the past couple of years and has never been driven only by money.

Joe Markowski, DAZN's executive vice president for North America, told ESPN last month that his platform was ready to do whatever it takes to sign Golovkin.

"The plan at DAZN is to make big fights," Markowsky said. "The Canelo and Golden Boy announcement is a huge step on that journey. We needed to land a big name, Canelo, the biggest, and for us it marks the start of something we're going to add to. GGG is no exception. We're engaging in conversations. In simple broad strokes we want the biggest fights on our platform. GGG is right at the top of our list. We have funds to back up what we want to do. They are not limitless funds but funds to do things that make sense."

either platform would get a boost from this :ohlawd:
 

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either platform would get a boost from this :ohlawd:
Is the desire really so big for Canelo vs Golovkin 3?

Remember when we did that RSR poll on twitter about who they'd like to see Canelo fight in May with Jacobs, Andrade, Charlo, Smith, BJS and GGG being the options and like everybody got more votes than GGG who only got 2?

Now maybe it's just a niche fanbase who don't particularly like GGG and are hardcore boxing fans too to know the rest of the fighters or there's really not so much desire for the rubber match despite the outcry after the totally understandable scoring of the rematch.
 

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Is the desire really so big for Canelo vs Golovkin 3?

Remember when we did that RSR poll on twitter about who they'd like to see Canelo fight in May with Jacobs, Andrade, Charlo, Smith, BJS and GGG being the options and like everybody got more votes than GGG who only got 2?

Now maybe it's just a niche fanbase who don't particularly like GGG and are hardcore boxing fans too to know the rest of the fighters or there's really not so much desire for the rubber match despite the outcry after the totally understandable scoring of the rematch.

the trilogy its whatever but remember there are also talks of setting up GGG vs Callum Smith...and Smith is down with Hearn anyways..shyt I'd be a little surprised if GGG doesnt go to DAZN
 

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the trilogy its whatever but remember there are also talks of setting up GGG vs Callum Smith...and Smith is down with Hearn anyways..shyt I'd be a little surprised if GGG doesnt go to DAZN

Jordan Brand and his marketability might have some say in his decision as well. I think he will join ESPN.
 
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