Religion/Spirituality The Official Bible Study Thread

[Everythingg]

Wow that sucks... Black people can never seem to win in this world.

Why do you say that breh?

Once blacks (really anyone since "Israel" means to strive with God) understand who they are in the world, they'll be the head while their enemies will be the tail.

 

[Marvel]

So God doesn't destroy all the people that did wrong to the real Israelites?

According to the scriptures, all the other nations will be possessed as slaves by the Israelites in the Kingdom. They will be building up our kingdom and serving us and they will have to keep the laws. If they break a law, we will punish according the laws. The Edomites will be completely done away with once they serve their slavery sentence (Obadiah 1:18 KJV). They are the only nation that will no longer exist on the planet. All the other nations will still be around and will get their land inheritance after they serve their sentence.

 

[Chez Lopez]

This is why im not a Hebrew Israelite, tho I do believe black ppl are the descendants of true Yasharaal.

 

[Blessup]

Once again the 10 Northern Tribes were black people, NOT indio:

"African Americans" are not Africans.

-You were not born in Africa, nor any relative you can trace.
-Can't even prove your ass came from Africa. That whole narrative you've been told has no proof.
-Even if you could prove it, why would you want to connect to the people who sold you, how do you think they will look at you when you mass exodus to Africa
-West Africans aren't thinking about you, you're Pan African movement is one sided
-You look like a clown claiming you're "African". Africans don't call themselves that truly, they identify with tribe
-You do not have the genetic makeup of these Africans you're trying to clammer onto
-These Africans emulate YOU, why would you then adopt their identity?
-Why do you not connect yourself to the soil you have history in rather than one you have none in?

Since none of you can provide proof you are African. I will provide proof of negros existing in the Americas.

"Ostium Flumines Paraybae [Brazil]"
by John Ogilby, 1671
A picturesque scene of merchants trading goods with native Indians. Ogilby has included two galleons in the distance of this striking view of a fort on the coast of Brazil. This view appeared in John Ogilby’s seminal atlas America: Being the Latest, and Most Accurate Description of the New World, published in London in 1671. Ogilby’s work is an English translation of Arnoldus Montanus’ Die Nieuwe en onbekende Weereld…, published in Amerstdam, although greatly expanded in some instances and with new maps and views. A nice dark impression.

In the late 1630s, Holland attempted to reassert its claim over Brazil by establishing a series of forts along the coastline. One of the best-documented colonies was the expedition led by Prince Maurits of Nassau, who attempted to assemble an intellectual court in the New World. He brought with him a group of highly accomplished artists, mapmakers, and scientists to record the mysteries of Brazil. They included the celebrated painter Frans Post, and the astronomer George Markgraf, who produced the first serious study of the southern sky. Post painted a wealth of images of the Brazilian landscape and the surrounding vegetation and wildlife. His works are some of the earliest European paintings of Brazil and were eagerly reproduced in print by Dutch engravers.

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I can keep going and going. Negroid People already existed in the Americas. The point is you guys have no clue what happened yet your lapping this Atlantic Slave shyt up like spit as if you have PROOF. Lets not forget the people who TOLD you that and WHO they where and what they were trying to ACHIEVE.

In 1667, the Virginia General Assembly declared “enslavement of Indians for life to be legal.” This act was repealed, then revived in 1691, but regardless, it was ignored. In 1705 Indian slavery in Virginia became illegal but it was not until 1777 that it was decided by the legislature that no Indian brought into Virginia since the Act of 1705, nor their descendants, could continue to be held as slaves. Slave owners didn't rush right home and free their slaves that they had inherited or purchased. The descendants of the slaves had to find a way to file a lawsuit, and a surprising number did.

South Carolina also declared Indian slavery to be illegal, but North Carolina did not, prompting some planters to move to North Carolina from Virginia.

In 1777 in Virginia when it was determined that it had been illegal to enslave Indians taken up during the Indian Wars, it opened the doors of possibility, at least a crack. Legally, it did not matter how much Indian or African ancestry one had, only whether the person descended from an Indian woman, since the legal status or condition of the child was determined by the “condition of the mother.” This new law encouraged lawsuits from descendants of female Indian slaves, and many sued for their freedom. Many won. The lawsuits often included many depositions that spanned nearly 100 years of history, describing where the slave was captured, how old they were when they were brought to Virginia and the history of their enslavement and subsequent sales. The families had to be reconstructed as well, and depositions were necessary for that too. These suits are gold mines for both genealogists and historians.

Some masters, unwilling to depart with their slaves, moved to other counties or states where lawsuits would have to be refiled. The original Indian captive slaves were dead and it was their grandchildren who most often sued for relief. However, the depositions taken tell us a great deal not just about Indian slavery, but the culture of slavery itself. It details how often slaves were sold, how many living children they had, how often they moved, and how the families were dispersed. We discover that many descendants knew where their family members were, even though they surely didn’t get to see them very often, if at all.

Things were different in Maryland. However, there was apparently some doubt, based on this Anne Arundel County, Maryland record from the Court Proceedings, 11 January 1708/9 – p.552: Capt. William Harbert presents an Indian youth the Son of an Indian Captive Woman taken at the Susquehannock Fort and Desires to have the Courts Opinion whether he be a servant During live as his Mother was or not. It is the opinion of ye Court that he is a slave During life.

These kinds of court decisions set precedents that would require more than another 150 years to overturn. By the time that slavery ended during the Civil War, not only were the Indians originally enslaved long dead, their 7th generation descendants were being born, allowing 25 years per generation. Some of the original Indian captive’s great-great-grandchildren may have been alive, as elderly people, to witness the emancipation of their great-grandchildren – if – they had been one of the lucky people, able to keep track of their family.

"Peru" by John Ogilby, 1671

Striking example of the map of Peru from John Ogilby's Complete History of America. The map extends from Los Pastos in the west to Talvera and Yuntas and Atacama in the east and provides a marvelous, if primitive look at he Cordilleras, towns and rivers along the coastline. Embellished with two large cartouches, sea monster and sailing ships, plus a compass rose. One of the most decorative early maps of Peru, then the richest part of the Spanish Empire in the New World.

"Atlas Novus Sive Tabulae Geographicae Totus Orbis Faciem, Partes, Imperia, Regna Et Provincias Exhibentes, "
by Matthaus Seutter, 1740

"The center of this title shows Europe, Asia, Africa and America in a hemispherical globe surrounded by allegorical personifications depicting natives and typical animals living on the various continents. Europe is at the upper left, Asia is shown at the bottom left, native Africans at the bottom right, and the upper right is a map being held by Native Americans showing the American Hemisphere and California as an island. Above all are putti blowing wind in four directions, Pegasus on a mountain top. Mercurius and Neptune with their symbols, ocean-going vessels and a playful symbolic depiction of the four elements. At the bottom symbols of science and power flanking the title cartouche."

This was a worthwhile thread derail, I apologize to the OP.

Guyane (Guyana) - Bonis Indians
engraving from 1879

Allegory of America by Stichvorlage von Giovanni Volpato (1733-1803)

@Marvel @ReturnOfJudah

 

[Blessup]

Breh, I just read it and its some heavy stuff and it fills in the gaps in Genesis before the Flood. It is better to fear God, than not

There is a lot proof that God blessed Ethiopia after the Hebrews were scattered among the nations after Christ. They were the only country that was not conquered by outsiders in the old world. In addition, the first Christian nation. With that it is possible that the Book of Enoch was preserved with them during this time.

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-book-of-enoch.206216/page-2


so @Marvel really believes that Ethopians are in fact hebrews. @ReturnOfJudah your teacher has been trolling you

 

[Apollo Creed]

Are the 12 tribes African Ethnic Groups or are all Blacks of the world of a specific Tribe of Israel?

 

[Chez Lopez]

Are the 12 tribes African Ethnic Groups or are all Blacks of the world of a specific Tribe of Israel?

there are different tribes of black groups. Hamites , Shemites, and even some Yapethites were originally darker skinned. The way to figure outwhich groups are which is by what is happening to them, currently and historically. The bible prophecies point out who the people are.

 

[Marvel]

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-book-of-enoch.206216/page-2


so @Marvel really believes that Ethopians are in fact hebrews. @ReturnOfJudah your teacher has been trolling you

There were Israelites that were scattered to Ethiopia that formed the Kingdom of Axum. Just like the eunuch from Ethopia that talked to Phillip who was scattered Israelite that there to keep the high holy days of Israel. That why in Acts 2, it talked about Jews from Cush. Meaning descendants of Judah (southern kingdom) that were scattered to Cush. The actual Cushyte descendant Ethiopians are still going into slavery. I know a scatterd Israelite that is an Eritrean and he believes in the Word and knows he is not a descendant of Cush and his spirit bares witness.

 

[Marvel]

Once again the 10 Northern Tribes were black people, NOT indio:












@Marvel @ReturnOfJudah

You say this while completely discounting prophecies, language and customs of the people of the Americas. All you are is a bugout, scoffer and reprobate.

 

[Apollo Creed]

there are different tribes of black groups. Hamites , Shemites, and even some Yapethites were originally darker skinned. The way to figure outwhich groups are which is by what is happening to them, currently and historically. The bible prophecies point out who the people are.

What is happening to them in what sense? Due to the transatlantic slave trade you have many if not most tribes of West Africa where families were split up as some were sold/captured to be slaves and others got away.

 

[Chez Lopez]

What is happening to them in what sense? Due to the transatlantic slave trade you have many if not most tribes of West Africa where families were split up as some were sold/captured to be slaves and others got away.

deutoronomy 28 specifies the events that will happen to the Hebrews if they do not follow the commandments. genesis 9 explains that Yapeth will dwell in the tents of shem. the blessings and curses outlined in the bible can only be describing black people, specifically americans, south americans, anywhere enslavement and redistribution occurred.

 

[Suicide King]

Have u noticed all these "great" civilizations worshipped these false gods and they followed that false demons rules and end up disappearing. Theres just too much evidence...

People still worship false gods/demons this is what is called black magic and it is still around today. You have the Occult with the Europeans and Sorcery with the African and the African descendants in Latin America and Caribbeans.

A spiritual world does exist. This is why the Bible forbids sorcery.

Read "Hostage to the Devil" by Malachi Martin.

The Exorcisms of evil spirits are not a hoax, because the priest either do the prayers in Latin or in their head so people can't fake possession. Also, the people are in a trance like state, a lot of times you only see the whites of their eyes. Also, they will reveal secrets of people in the room.

One thing that is telling is that the evil spirits say their torment comes from the lack of love, being rejected. This is why they are so eager to be worshiped. And they will give their followers usually abilities plus ill gotten goods and they will carry out curses.

 

[Apollo Creed]

deutoronomy 28 specifies the events that will happen to the Hebrews if they do not follow the commandments. genesis 9 explains that Yapeth will dwell in the tents of shem. the blessings and curses outlined in the bible can only be describing black people, specifically americans, south americans, anywhere enslavement and redistribution occurred.

Black Americans come from tribes that are still in Africa, as in someone in the Ivory Coast shares a 5 gen removed great grandfather with someone in Chicago due to one of the grandfathers kids being captured. Is that person in Chicago not of the same tribe as their 5th+ cousin still in Africa?

 

[Chez Lopez]

Black Americans come from tribes that are still in Africa, as in someone in the Ivory Coast shares a 5 gen removed great grandfather with someone in Chicago due to one of the grandfathers kids being captured. Is that person in Chicago not of the same tribe as their 5th+ cousin still in Africa?

The lineage has been diluted all throughout time. Im America white and black mixed, in Africa, surrounding different groups of black mixed. In the ancient times, the Yahudim (ancient Hebrews) mixed in with other tribes, as they were commanded not to do. This is part of the reason for the scattering, due to Hebrews becoming the cultures of their captives. The way we know today who is who, is by who can trace their lineage to a slave nation, and who is awakened to the truth, or 'called upon by Yahuah'. There are slaves, Hebrews, all over the world, those who realize it and turn to Yahuah will definitely be doing so by blood. The ones, who are the strangers, will also be considered like home born. This is the prophecy, that those who are His, will wake up, realize who they are, and return to Him.

 

[Chez Lopez]

Isaiah (YashaYahu) 52

5 Now therefore, what have I here, saith Yahuah, that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule over them make them to howl, saith Yahuah; and my name continually every day is blasphemed. 6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I. 7How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy Alaheim reigneth! 8 Thy watchmen shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they sing: for they shall see eye to eye, when Yahuah shall bring again Zion.9 Break forth into joy, sing together, ye waste places of Jerusalem: for Yahuah hath comforted his people, he hath redeemed Yarushalem. 10 Yahuah hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our Alaheim. 11 Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out from thence, touch no unclean thing; go ye out of the midst of her; be ye clean, that bear the vessels of Yahuah. 12 For ye shall not go out with haste, nor go by flight: for Yahuah will go before you; and the Alaheim of Israel will be your rereward.