Essential The Official Battle Rap Random Thoughts Thread (URL, KOTD, UW etc...)

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No, that's one perspective; not a complete reality. You obviously said you can't talk business in here because there's too many fans. Ok, business then. If there's something in demand one business cannot provide, another business will try to accompany that. And that right there is what Hitman did. And I view it as a business to a degree, too. Same time, if URL can't provide that battle, they should've came up with some other shyt to top that which I figured they could do instead of the blocking shyt. Corny as it sounds, there is some culture to it as well and hell, some of us, fans would;ve appreciated it possibly. We can agree to disagree but you talk like you siding completely with the league. Would you be cool with this if other leagues did this as well? No matter how big or small the league is, would you be cool with it?

Chilla backed out of the agreement with Holla. Why do we keep going back to this as if Chilla didn't have a choice? He claims he isn't under contract with URL, did Hitman prove otherwise? Getting more looks on URL is more important to him right now. Chilla has done every league besides URL and decided URL would provide something the other leagues couldn't.
 

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I don't really care if you think I'm siding with the league or not.

The fan in me doesn't want Hitman to have the battles, because they could turn out looking like the kingjuice battles for all i know. There where quite a few of us that where happy Hitman/Suge did not happen on Gorilla Warfare.

The contracts definitely don't bother me. There needs to be some type of quality control. It was exactly how yall nyggas wanted it just a few years back. Nyggas where free to battle anywhere. Nothing but terrible battles. So many dope battles on paper just turned out to be :trash:.

Guys going around being :trash: for a check.

I like when battle rappers are exclusive to a league. Look at the qp's. Best thing that ever happened to them was committing to black ice.

All the RBE guys take it seriously. The URL got more serious. SDH guys took it serious. WGH nyggas take it seriously. Whether you like the content or not.

Facts. The Charlie Klumps/Aye Verb/NWX/Daylyt/Danny Myers style business model has hurt the game way more than exclusive contracts ever could. Iron Solomon did an exclusive contract with KOTD and arguably just had the performance of a lifetime.
 

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Facts. The Charlie Klumps/Aye Verb/NWX/Daylyt/Danny Myers style business model has hurt the game way more than exclusive contracts ever could. Iron Solomon did an exclusive contract with KOTD and arguably just had the performance of a lifetime.

Not only that, it was to the point where it became very hard for the URL to create "names" without these contracts. T Top, Brizz, Chess, etc are no longer up & coming. They are in the building. Now you'll slowly see the URL incorporate newer names in their big events instead of the same vets.

It's kind of hard to promote talent that battles everywhere. Look at what happened to Xcel. I never liked him, but he was respected. Left the URL & was choking damn near every battle. I don't think he's a big stage guy, but even if he was, what can a league owner do with that?

:russ:A contract would have saved Bmagic from himself. He would be top tier. Probably Tay Roc status.

My nygga we can keep it going. Would Hitman even want to book Chilla if he did not have his last 2 battles on the URL? Or T Top?
 

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Can someone help me understand this

So Beasley sayin B.dot needs to do a PG first before battling saga. Then goes on to say that everyone on URL has to do a PG first. Ok cool.

Did charron do a PG? before he battled Suge?

Did disaster do a PG before he battled Rex?

Reed do a PG before John John?

I'm gone off that kush so I don't know if I'm legit forgetting those PG's or is Beasley just contradicting himself
 

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Can someone help me understand this

So Beasley sayin B.dot needs to do a PG first before battling saga. Then goes on to say that everyone on URL has to do a PG first. Ok cool.

Did charron do a PG? before he battled Suge?

Did disaster do a PG before he battled Rex?

Reed do a PG before John John?

I'm gone off that kush so I don't know if I'm legit forgetting those PG's or is Beasley just contradicting himself

I will listen to the Beasley interview & give my opinion.

But you know Bdot is not Charron, Dizaster, or Reed right?
 

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I will listen to the Beasley interview & give my opinion.

But you know Bdot is not Charron, Dizaster, or Reed right?

I know that. But he said EVERYONE has to do a PG first.

If URL Has made exceptions then he should of said that.

Don't say everyone has to do a PG if that's not the case
 

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I know that. But he said EVERYONE has to do a PG first.

If URL Has made exceptions then he should of said that.

Don't say everyone has to do a PG if that's not the case

I'm listening right now

Your right

I do believe your nitpicking here though.

We both know if someone like Pat Stay battled on the URL, it would not be a pg.

I believe he's speaking from the perspective of someone that views Bdot as a guy on the come up. Dizaster is a top tier guy man. Charron is a top kotd/canadian guy. Reed is Reed. You know all of this.
 
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I'm listening right now

Your right

I do believe your nitpicking here though.

We both know if someone like Pat Stay battled on the URL, it would not be a pg.

I believe he's speaking from the perspective of someone that views Bdot as a guy on the come up. Dizaster is a top tier guy man. Charron is a top kotd/canadian guy. Reed is Reed. You know all of this.
So basically if you are a white boy or have footage on the old smack dvd you get special treatment but if you build your own name up from scratch it don't mean nothing until you get your looks on url and that means any look so whatever pg stepping gun line fool they throw at you, it's in their best interest to just take whatever for the sake of business.

Gotcha.
 

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I don't really care if you think I'm siding with the league or not.

The fan in me doesn't want Hitman to have the battles, because they could turn out looking like the kingjuice battles for all i know. There where quite a few of us that where happy Hitman/Suge did not happen on Gorilla Warfare.

The contracts definitely don't bother me. There needs to be some type of quality control. It was exactly how yall nyggas wanted it just a few years back. Nyggas where free to battle anywhere. Nothing but terrible battles. So many dope battles on paper just turned out to be :trash:.

Guys going around being :trash: for a check.

I like when battle rappers are exclusive to a league. Look at the qp's. Best thing that ever happened to them was committing to black ice.

All the RBE guys take it seriously. The URL got more serious. SDH guys took it serious. WGH nyggas take it seriously. Whether you like the content or not.

I mean, you are if you think it's always about every single battle rapper sticking to a league they're a part of. My point is that it doesn't work for every situation; and the fact remains, who knows what could've happened with Hitman's event. Plus, they didn't even rebook the cot damn battle themselves yet. No matter what reality you deal with or how much of a business mind you say you have for battle rap, it's not a perfect solution for every battle rapper to stick one league. And not everyone on Smack URL. Not all of them dudes are going to wait once or twice a year to booked for battles. Might as well pull a DNA (well not as bad, lol) and battle on every fukkin card that's out.
 

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So basically if you are a white boy or have footage on the old smack dvd you get special treatment but if you build your own name up from scratch it don't mean nothing until you get your looks on url and that means any look so whatever pg stepping gun line fool they throw at you, it's in their best interest to just take whatever for the sake of business.

Gotcha.

:stopitslime:You want to compare B Dot's resume to Reed, Charron, and Diz? They were top tiers in another league and Reed was a legend.

There's solid PG's like Mike P, Tink, and Ave he could face. Let's be real, the only reason he wants Saga is so he can break down Christianity. His angle is obvious and he probably has rounds prepared. Take away that lay up angle and the other PG's will expose him. He couldn't handle someone like Ave. URL sees that he's not trying to be a part of their brand long term. He just wants another viral third round.
 

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Not only that, it was to the point where it became very hard for the URL to create "names" without these contracts. T Top, Brizz, Chess, etc are no longer up & coming. They are in the building. Now you'll slowly see the URL incorporate newer names in their big events instead of the same vets.

It's kind of hard to promote talent that battles everywhere. Look at what happened to Xcel. I never liked him, but he was respected. Left the URL & was choking damn near every battle. I don't think he's a big stage guy, but even if he was, what can a league owner do with that?

:russ:A contract would have saved Bmagic from himself. He would be top tier. Probably Tay Roc status.

My nygga we can keep it going. Would Hitman even want to book Chilla if he did not have his last 2 battles on the URL? Or T Top?

Facts :ehh:
 
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