The Official Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Movie Thread

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Lex Luthor:mjlol:

horrible acting
horrible script for him

so instead of being cool as fukk and evil

he just crazy and weak
doing shyt with reasons that arent even explained:mjlol:


is this nikka supposed to be the joker:mjlol:

did he read the wrong script

was he possessed by the spirit of Heath Ledger:dwillhuh:
 

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the reason crazy as shyt, meth head, batman just decides to not want to kill superman:mjlol:.................................................................. just cause the have mothers with the same name:mjlol: that's it u wanted to skin that man alive and have that as your legacy but u hear the name martha and it changes everything:russ:
 

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@Jimmy ValenTime and @gluvnast

I think the real question is

Why didnt SUPERMAN move the ship?

I mean lets be real.... they in MOS I couldve sworn he moved a ship to Antarctica

He moved a ship on ice in this film and he was able to pick up a piece of a rocket that exploded.

I'm sure he couldve removed it from Metropolis himself but it was like he was like "fukk it.... I gotta go to work in the Morning and type up these reports, matter fact its late, let me take my ass to bed.":mjlol:
Superman COULD of moved it himself. But it was pretty much established at the end of MoS that the government just DID NOT TRUST Superman. And it is further confirmed by not only having a Senate hearing as to hold some authoritative accountability, which the problem is that Superman doesn't answer to anyone, but also the military was already willing to give access to Luthor for the same fears that Luthor supposedly claimed to have. Plain and simple, the GOVERNMENT DID NOT TRUST Superman.

But as for Superman himself... he could of moved it, but the question is did he WANTED to and it seemed like he did not nor cared. The only purpose he had in relation to the shyt in MoS is to find out his own history and identity. When he told Zod before crashing the ship, he straight up said, "KRYPTON HAD ITS CHANCE". So, he basically have no fukks about that ship or anything relating to it. You may OBJECT to this kind of character development, but it's seems like at the beginning of the film his only care was his relationship with Lois. Even after the African massacre, and Lois feeling some kind of way of how so many were slaughtered and how the media was trying to paint fault on him, Clark was very dismissive stating his concern was trying to save her. Basically, I don't think it was even his priority or concern at all.

So yea... it was EXACTLY like "I'm sure I could of moved it, but fucck it, I got work to do and ect.."

MY QUESTION TO YOU and everyone else. WHO CARES? Why moving the ship somewhere else is important? No matter what, Luthor was still going to get access, Luthor was still going to create Doomsday, and Doomsday was still going to cause havoc, no matter what. It served nothing at all it to remain in Metropolis or on some deserted island or plain or anywhere.
 

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:snoop: Why the hell can't Lois keep her unhelpful ass home? Every fight scene she somehow comes into the picture and fukks up the momentum. The most cringe worthy part was easily her coming to explain Superman and Bats mother having the same name. Thus snapping Batman back into reality and allowing them to join forces :martin: I wish I had more hands so I can give this movie 4 thumbs down

Believe it or not... that's how she's pretty much is in the comics... but as it always be repeated over and over, she's a worldwide Pulitzer prize winning investigative reporter. Therefore she goes where the danger is at. With all of that said, I am GLAD it been acknowledged, not only by herself early in the movie, but as a tool for Luthor to use to his advantage.
 

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the reason crazy as shyt, meth head, batman just decides to not want to kill superman:mjlol:.................................................................. just cause the have mothers with the same name:mjlol: that's it u wanted to skin that man alive and have that as your legacy but u hear the name martha and it changes everything:russ:

It was a little more than that..... and lets not forget, Batman IS NOT RIGHT IN THE HEAD. Many of times over the decades, and it's more than shown in this movie, that he belongs in Arkham Asylum. He is a basket case when it is all said and done.
 

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It's weird... The more time I have to digest and think about the movie, the more it grows on me.

I still think it speaks to the poor job they did with editing and pace tho. The average person aint gonna go online and seek explanations for scenes. They're just gonna be like "I didn't get it." :yeshrug: and keep it moving.
 

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I see there is a war in here about the movie so let me bring you some laughs. possibly the funniest criticism yall will have seen this or any other year. Some feminist ones. spoilers inside
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is a battle cry for “Not All Men"
Updated by Alex Abad-Santos on March 26, 2016, 11:30 a.m. ET @alex_abadsalex@vox.com
TWEET SHARE (110) Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is a crime against comic book fans
But amidst Batman v Superman's heap of broken themes and stories, there is one thing that Snyder, perhaps unintentionally, makes abundantly clear: Batman is the most prominent "Not All Men" supporter on the face of this planet.
In more than one instance, Batman uses a permutation of the "not all men" rebuttal to correct Wonder Woman's notions about Earth — never mind that she is a longtime observer of its cyclical nature of man-made wars and strifes. There's also a grand sacrifice at the center of the film that's as much about saving the world as it is about Batman proving that he's "a good man."
Batman vSupermanisn't the only superhero story that explores the idea that our world is full of people who are exceptions, both good and bad, to the norm. These stories offer writers a chance to explore complex subjects — authoritarianism, political beliefs, vigilantism, etc. — without the constraints of reality.
But what Batman vSuperman does is peculiar in how much weight it places on Batman's worldview, suggesting that his view is the only one that matters, and that Batman knows best. The movie presents him as a wrongly scolded victim. And when you start to crack his mentality, it helps you understand the film's psyche a bit more.
Batman: Not all Men are selfish

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Batman v Superman (Warner Bros.)

When people use the phrase "Not All Men," it's a punchline that mocks someone, most likely a man, who tries to deflect valid conversations about topics related to diversity and tolerance (e.g. sexism in the workplace, racism, homophobia, etc.) by exempting themselves of any criticism. My former colleague Kelsey McKinney wrote an entertaining explainer on how the phrase came to be, but the basic traits that characterize Not All Men supporters are short-sighted, condescending men who tend to live anonymously on the internet.
The first time the concept of Not All Men arises in Batman v Superman is about midway through the film. Diana Prince a.k.a. Wonder Woman (played by Gal Gadot) steals a hard drive from Bruce Wayne a.k.a. Batman (Ben Affleck) that contains data Bruce hacked from Lex Luthor (Jesse Eisenberg). Bruce tracks her down at a museum and asks her about the stolen drive.
"You know it’s true what they say about little boys." she tells Bruce, "Born with no natural inclination to share. I didn’t steal it — I borrowed it."
Diana can't access what's on the drive, though, because Luthor encrypted it. She gives it back to Bruce, who can break the encryption. And when he's done, he sends her some information via email with a subject line in the vein of, "Boys Share Too." Bruce emails like someone who isn't particularly tech-savvy (with weirdspacing, sporadic caps, and fragmented sentences), includes a creepy photo of her, and asks her about her possible immortality. And he presumably Googled or hacked Luthor's drive her to find her email address, then contacted her through e-mail the way an earnest "Not All Men" believer would.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that little boys are born with no natural inclination to share. When Diana suggests to Bruce that it's something people say, it's the first I've ever heard of the idea. It even goes against real-life studies, like one conducted in 2011 by researchers at the University of Washington that found babies as young as 15 months have the ability to identify when their peers have unequal amounts of food or toys, and to exhibit traits of fairness or altruism.
Even if the interaction between Bruce and Diana isn't based in any kind of reality — and since Batman v Superman is a fictional story, it has no obligation to be — it sets the tone for this world. Men don't share. Men are selfish. Wonder Woman is better because she shares.
But Batman is the exception — and he isn't afraid to remind her of that.
Batman: Not All Men are bad. Men are still good.
On the official soundtrack for Batman v Superman, there's an icy, heaving instrumental called "Men Are Still Good":


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The song corresponds to a pivotal moment late in the film, when Wonder Woman is ready to return to her home on the island of Themyscira. Her work is done, and she seems ready to step back into the hedges and vanish from the public eye for awhile. This is in line with Wonder Woman's original comic book mythology (her origin story has been tweaked multiple times since) — she's and other Amazons live in isolation on the island because they've seen how nasty mankind can be.
In keeping with this, she tells Batman that she's seen the ugliness of Earth's wars and that she disappeared a century ago (duringWorld War I) because she was tired of seeing men muck it all up. But he doesn't let her go that easily. He tells her that she needs to find other metahumans like herself and assemble a team. Why?
"Men are still good," he tells her.
Never mind that she's been around for a century, is exponentially stronger than him, and has saved the world before. He clearly doesn't care that she's seen a lot more of this world than he has — and how he fits into her observation. He simply tut-tuts her hesitance until she decides to stick around.
Of course, since there is a Justice League movie in the works, Batman is totally right; there will still be "good men" who will fight to protect the planet from evil. But he's ignoring Wonder Woman's larger point — that man has consistently found a way to disappoint her over the century or so that she's been kicking it on Earth. And perhaps, in Snyder's eyes, Wonder Woman is the real sexist.
Superman died for Not All Men
Despite repeatedly insisting to Wonder Woman that there are still good men out there — including himself, of course — Batman somehow fails to see how Superman can be good, too. There is no benefit of the doubt to be given. Because Superman fought a battle with General Zod that ended up damaging and affecting the lives of some of Bruce's employees, Batman sees Superman as a threat that must be eliminated.
It's notable that, for as gung-ho as he is with punishing Superman for the damage he caused, Batman is seen murdering and torturing people throughout Batman v Superman. Killing Superman is something he feels must be done to save the good people of this world, even though the movie contains a specific montage in which Superman saves people in all kinds of ways.
It's confusing for Batman v Superman to depict Superman as a villain. He saves plenty of people, and we can probably assume that at some point, Batman would ostensibly agree that Superman is doing some kind of net good. However, only Snyder knows for sure whether that's true.
In the end, what (temporarily)saves Superman from doom and redeems him in Batman's eyes — and I am not kidding — is that Superman's mother and Batman's mother have the same name. There is literally a scene where Batman is ready to murder Superman and Superman says the word Martha, which cleanses Batman of his bloodlust.
Not all men have mothers named Martha.
At the end of the movie, Superman dies a dumb, avoidable death (explained here), and it basically canonizes him as the patron man saint of Not All Men. It's his final act to show Batman and anyone else who dislikes him (Batman v Superman is never clear about how the public feels about Superman) that he's good. It's a moment where he proves Lex Luthor wrong and shows that all-powerful men can be entirely good. And as he dies while plunging a Kryptonite spear into Doomsday, he might as well be screaming, "NOT ALL MEN" in a "THIS IS SPARTA" fashion.
Superman's death changes how many people, including Batman, see him. And it prompts Batman/Bruce to create the Justice League. Did Superman really have to die for us to realize how good he is? I mean, besides it being ammunition for Batman to tell Diana "not all men"?
By the end Batman v Superman, Batman is a reformed man because he realizes he was wrongabout Superman.
But he still hasn't changed his "not all men" stance, and in Snyder's eyes,he doesn't have to. After all, he's convinced Diana that the metahumans are good people and they can protect this world from evil.
Batman, in Snyder's iteration, isn't so much fighting to keep good people safe as he is asserting his worldview. He cares more about punishing Superman than saving lives. If he did care about people as much as he said he did, then he wouldn't be running his Batmobile all over, destroying buildings and we'd see some reflection or some deliberation about the deaths he caused.
Instead, he's fighting because he has able to assemble a team of men (and one woman) who, just like him, are an exception to the rule — people who are good in this sea of bad. And he isn't looking to change the world that Wonder Woman dislikes — the same one that Superman cherishes — as much as he is out to affirm what he believes.
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is a battle cry for "Not All Men"
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I don't care about fan boy-ism....I'm just being straight up that you are someone that like their superhero films with a lot of humor and lighthearted fun. By the mere fact you said Ant-Man and Deadpool to which are both meant to be action comedies and a completely different type of film in comparison just cements that you one of those similar to how the critics want their superhero films to be.

I mentioned those cuz those are the last two superhero movies I saw, nice try though
 

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I mentioned those cuz those are the last two superhero movies I saw, nice try though

And they're nothing like this movie... the issue is this is a different kind of superhero film. It is not a comedy. It is some action adventure with funny quips all the time and nothing morally thought provoking. It is a film that at the very least needs to be applauded for its ambition, also for the very least be recognize for addressing a serious subject about faith, religion, and the allegorical question of the power vs the compassion of God. If you don't enjoy it fine. But say it isn't your cup of tea and you prefer lighthearted and funny action films.
 

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And they're nothing like this movie... the issue is this is a different kind of superhero film. It is not a comedy. It is some action adventure with funny quips all the time and nothing morally thought provoking. It is a film that at the very least needs to be applauded for its ambition, also for the very least be recognize for addressing a serious subject about faith, religion, and the allegorical question of the power vs the compassion of God. If you don't enjoy it fine. But say it isn't your cup of tea and you prefer lighthearted and funny action films.

It IS my cup of tea, I love serious superhero movies and The Dark Knight is my favorite trilogy. If you took Snyders dikk out of your mouth instead of trying to rationalize why people might not like it you might realize that some people just don't think it's a good movie

And it doesn't NEED to be applauded for anything, negro please :mjlol: coming up with any and every excuse for this shyt like they're paying your ass :mjlol:
 

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He didn't have kryptonite poisoning when he first landed.

The time he spent burning down the gun turrets, and destroying the sonic jammer thing, he could've put Batman in a rear naked choke lol.

He suppose to have super speed, he should've been able to do all that in a matter of seconds, this why you can't take him seriously in fighting goku

You missed the part where he was trying to reason with batman before he realized Bruce wasn't having none of that shyt?
 
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You missed the part where he was trying to reason with batman before he realized Bruce wasn't having none of that shyt?

Once again, Superman has super speed and strength, he could restrain batman and make him listen, he could have easily picked batman up and flown away from the kryptonite. He picked him up and flew several times during their fight lmao
 
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