The Official Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Movie Thread

[Emoryal]

Shiiit I didn't know this was the spoiler thread. Mother of fukking...

 

[YeLovesBoston]

The Justice League was founded because a guy had a couple weird dream and listened to the mad ramblings of a trust fund baby who was locked up and snotting all over himself.

And the Avengers couldnt come together to fight Loki until Phil Coulson died. Then boom their all best buddies

 

[YeLovesBoston]

Shiiit I didn't know this was the spoiler thread. Mother of fukking...

 

[Bryan Danielson]

That is nit

No.... thats not a nit.... I was simply "dumbing it down" for you peoples feeling for that scene


Man fights crime for 20 years..... has his shares of nightmares.... in this movie alone has 3..... but now one nightmare is supposed to be more important than all the others he had ever?

No.... they couldve did this in a better way. Its almost a "boy who cried wolf" thing going along with the nightmares

 

[malbaker86]

@Big Butts where can I find a link at bruh?

 

[winb83]

And the Avengers couldnt come together to fight Loki until Phil Coulson died. Then boom their all best buddies

No they weren't best buddies. They still fight and bicker. Hell that's most of what they do. That guy didn't even die Nick lied about it to manipulate them right? Ain't he on the TV show?

The Avengers were brought together to be used as a weapon by a shady government agency in the face of overwhelming evidence of an out of world threat.

 

[Steezy]

Or maybe it just went way over your head. They are creating a team ti fight a danger. They heavily foreshadow Darkseid in this movie

Batman's dreams, Lex Luthor's gods speech, and Lex Luthor saying hes coming after his meeting with Batman. Batman straight up tells Wonder Woman "they'll have to fight."

On top of that its Superman's sacrifice thats going to bring them together. If you didn't understand that you missed a major part of the film which is Batman's character arc.

"Men are still good"

These nikkas either trolling didn't pay attention or dumv as fukk.

It's a fukkin comic movie you think Batman says he just had a feeling and goes off to baskin Robbins.. Idiots

 

[Bryan Danielson]

And the Avengers couldnt come together to fight Loki until Phil Coulson died. Then boom their all best buddies

They were already together as in they were already grouped on the ship.... had conversations and minor experiences with each other and etc..... Phil dying just allowed them to take a second look about things and realize that all the inner fighting and bullshyt between them was pointless and got them to focus on the working together for the greater good.

I get what you're trynna do.... but its not exactly the same

 

[winb83]

No.... thats not a nit.... I was simply "dumbing it down" for you peoples feeling for that scene


Man fights crime for 20 years..... has his shares of nightmares.... in this movie alone has 3..... but now one nightmare is supposed to be more important than all the others he had ever?

No.... they couldve did this in a better way. Its almost a "boy who cried wolf" thing going along with the nightmares

He should have said something to the effect that he wanted to track these people down and keep tabs on them in case something else like what happened today happens again.

He's standing there speaking with certainty about putting together a team. Something is gonna happen I have a hunch so we need a team of super heroes on standby. We're gonna track these guys down and they'll be forced to fight eventually so let's make the team.

The whole thing just feels forced. Kinda like how in Twilight Edward sees Bella and it's instant love at first sight because the plot requires him to not because he feels like a real person that met her and got to know her and fell in love over time.

 

[YeLovesBoston]

No.... thats not a nit.... I was simply "dumbing it down" for you peoples feeling for that scene


Man fights crime for 20 years..... has his shares of nightmares.... in this movie alone has 3..... but now one nightmare is supposed to be more important than all the others he had ever?

No.... they couldve did this in a better way. Its almost a "boy who cried wolf" thing going along with the nightmares

The nightmares were meant to be more than just typical nightmares. The movie has another Flash show up for fukk's sake. It doesnt have to be 100% realistic. Like really? An alien and Amazon but the foreshadowing for a major threat is hard to believe?

It only plays into part of the motivation for the Justice League. Bruce knows Lex knows something's up. And Batman is ready to put his faith back into mankind and his trust into metahumans. The point of the Justice League coming together is to prove that there are good men. The set up was really fukkin great but yall want to nitpick like "b but it was just a dream" knowing damn well as an audience we know there's more to it

 

[YeLovesBoston]

They were already together as in they were already grouped on the ship.... had conversations and minor experiences with each other and etc..... Phil dying just allowed them to take a second look about things and realize that all the inner fighting and bullshyt between them was pointless and got them to focus on the working together for the greater good.

I get what you're trynna do.... but its not exactly the same

No because I did exactly what you nikkas do. Overlooking a lot of shyt

 

[Bryan Danielson]

These nikkas either trolling didn't pay attention or dumv as fukk.

It's a fukkin comic movie you think Batman says he just had a feeling and goes off to baskin Robbins.. Idiots

Ummm no...... He goes to get him a meal at Cobblepot bar

A nice turkey dish served with a side of cream corn and asparagus, drinking the best 1867 French Wine they have in the building

 

[Brandsdale]

The nightmares were meant to be more than just typical nightmares. The movie has another Flash show up for fukk's sake. It doesnt have to be 100% realistic. Like really? An alien and Amazon but the foreshadowing for a major threat is hard to believe?

It only plays into part of the motivation for the Justice League. Bruce knows Lex knows something's up. And Batman is ready to put his faith back into mankind and his trust into metahumans. The point of the Justice League coming together is to prove that there are good men. The set up was really fukkin great but yall want to nitpick like "b but it was just a dream" knowing damn well as an audience we know there's more to it

There is more to the dream you're right. But the point here is not the dream itself it's the events that followed where the plot didn't follow with what the writers were making Ben Affleck say. Also the pacing of it was forced. They had Ben out here going out on a whim telling Wonder woman to round up metahumans for no reason. They made it seem like it was conspiracy and that Batman is doing this for the hell of it and just to satisfy the fans on some "let's just throw in these heroes overwhelmingly" for the hell of it.

 

[Bolzmark]

Personally I don't blame Zack Smyder. It's the writers. They take so much time setting up the chess pieces and really the plot isn't that complex. There's also minimal character development. They need to work on Superman's characterization. He's still the exact same that he was in Man of Steel and to me it was ok in that movie but he needs to develop into a more defined person instead of being an unsure, uncertain, introverted emo. He should have a character arc instead of being a static character.
I think Supermans persona was on point, especially considering the backlash he was receiving from so many people. How could he not be "unsure"? He's an extraordinarily powerful being trying to do good but in the process people are getting hurt. Some call him a God, others a False God. How could he not be unsure and uncertain?

Another problem I have with the movie is how Batman and Superman inevitably come together. It was effin stupid even for a movie with as bad a plot as this one had.
The whole "we bot got mothers named Martha" was a little corny, I agree.

Lex was ineffective not because of who and how he was played but because they never went into why he was doing what he was doing. He was a bad guy for the sake of being a bad guy. Never ween any deeper than that.
Why? Wouldn't you agree that he's a power hungry guy who sees Superman and Batman as threats? Plus he's a sociopath. What "reason" was every given beyond those in the comics?

There were several weird dream sequences that happened in the movie and they were awkward. There's even a part where they damn near break way from everything and pitch mini-trailers for the other I guess founding members of the Justice League. Also the way they set up the "dawn" of the Justice League at the end of the movie is dumb as hell. In the Avengers the team was founded as a response to an actual threat. Here basically a character basically suggest they make the team for the hell of it just because they have a hunch. Not as a response to a present danger.
I think it will be established later that the "dream" with Flash was not a dream at all and Batman realizes it. I expect that sequence will be elaborated more on later and establish why Batman feels there is a threat looming.

They need new writers. Snyder's direction style isn't my problem.

Also about Batman (minor spoiler about the character more than the plot of the movie)

Spoiler

He obviously and knowingly kills people by putting them in situations they'll clearly die in. He also doesn't seem the least bit bothered by it. He's clearly gone over the edge at the point we meet him.

I think one thing not being considered is that while this was a complete movie, it was only the first chapter in a story. That's why the plot seems underdeveloped. Its like reading a books first couple chapters then putting it down. I'm sure it will start to make more sense as more DC movies come out.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

The nightmares were meant to be more than just typical nightmares. The movie has another Flash show up for fukk's sake. It doesnt have to be 100% realistic. Like really? An alien and Amazon but the foreshadowing for a major threat is hard to believe?

It only plays into part of the motivation for the Justice League. Bruce knows Lex knows something's up. And Batman is ready to put his faith back into mankind and his trust into metahumans. The point of the Justice League coming together is to prove that there are good men. The set up was really fukkin great but yall want to nitpick like "b but it was just a dream" knowing damn well as an audience we know there's more to it

20 years of fighting crime.... the old age, the hallucinations.... How do I not know these aint symptoms of concussions and the many battles with Scarecrow and Poison Ivy... who both are known for their psychological drugs who at many times Batman got hooked on when caught slipping