The Official Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Movie Thread

[Mr210]

What them second week numbers looking like

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

What them second week numbers looking like

 

[TheGodling]

So this Superman won't save his dad because it will expose his powers.....but will go fight/kill Batman to save his mom?

Well, he wasn't Superman yet when his pops died and nobody knew about his powers. At least now people know about Superman.

Why does this incarnation of Lex Luthor hate Superman? Why does he know who Clark Kent is....in a world where Clark Kent doesn't know who Bruce Wayne is? And why is them meeting at his party a big deal to him?

He hates Superman because of his childhood trauma making him believe God can't be good because an all-powerful beings can't be all-good and Superman is all-powerful so he must expose him or what he is or something. He knows who Clark Kent is because he found out he's Superman (don't ask me how, quite frankly a lot of the movie's plot depends on your acceptance of #LUTHORKNOWSLOL) and that's why them meeting at his party is a big deal to him, because he already knows these men are Superman and Batman.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Nikkas are wrong about the movie not being deep. The Jesus overtones, terrorism, the general idea of opportunity cost of decisions etc.

You can argue that they didn't execute it well but it is pretty deep

 

[wire28]

Why does this incarnation of Lex Luthor hate Superman? Why does he know who Clark Kent is....in a world where Clark Kent doesn't know who Bruce Wayne is? And why is them meeting at his party a big deal to him?

The basics of this film would work a million times better if they would've taken their time and introduced this Batman in his own damn film. His arc in BvS would actually hold weight if we got the chance to see his descent. Would also have given the Lex/Superman relationship to breathe.

yeah it would have done so much better if it was just MOS2, they were just in such a damn hurry they ended up screwing themselves in several different departments

i said it before but even though batman was the best part of the film, they probably would have been better served to just leave him out and focus on superman so we could actually focus on his relationships with lois and his mom, see why lex actually hates superman, go more in depth with the political aspects of superman with the senator and the wayne employee getting more time, etc

 

[HHR]

Nikkas are wrong about the movie not being deep. The Jesus overtones, terrorism, the general idea of opportunity cost of decisions etc.

You can argue that they didn't execute it well but it is pretty deep

That doesn't make it deep....MoS did the same thing. I caught it early in this too. That little girl Bruce saves in the beginning is nearly crushed by a cross shaped hunk of metal

 

[HHR]

He hates Superman because of his childhood trauma making him believe God can't be good because an all-powerful beings can't be all-good and Superman is all-powerful so he must expose him or what he is or something. He knows who Clark Kent is because he found out he's Superman (don't ask me how, quite frankly a lot of the movie's plot depends on your acceptance of #LUTHORKNOWSLOL) and that's why them meeting at his party is a big deal to him, because he already knows these men are Superman and Batman.

This is what I figured. Rushed storytelling requiring previous knowledge of characters.

 

[TheGodling]

This is what I figured. Rushed storytelling requiring previous knowledge of characters.

shyt, pretty much everything Lex does in the Kryptonian ship is something you'll have to force yourself to assume he either already knows or has just learned about, it's that fukking lazy.

 

[HHR]

shyt, pretty much everything Lex does in the Kryptonian ship is something you'll have to force yourself to assume he either already knows or has just learned about, it's that fukking lazy.

I had no idea what was happening there, or in Batman's dream thing.....Flash warns him about something....and something about Lois Lane.....that had nothing to do with the story?

I read someone say that that was used to propel Batman's hated of Superman....which if accurate is just inexcusably lazy lol. Can't make our plot work in reality, let's just have him dream an alternate future.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

So this Superman won't save his dad because it will expose his powers.....but will go fight/kill Batman to save his mom?

The "nuke Superman" scene belonged in a G.I. Joe with how poorly it was done. 5 minutes after Doomsday appears, POTUS and the joint chiefs are ready to literally launch nukes at him? Sure.

Why does this incarnation of Lex Luthor hate Superman? Why does he know who Clark Kent is....in a world where Clark Kent doesn't know who Bruce Wayne is? And why is them meeting at his party a big deal to him?

The basics of this film would work a million times better if they would've taken their time and introduced this Batman in his own damn film. His arc in BvS would actually hold weight if we got the chance to see his descent. Would also have given the Lex/Superman relationship to breathe.

Man I'm tired of repeating the same things... But ok.


At that point in time, his dad in MOS didn't feel like the world was ready for people to see his powers. He was trying to protect his son. His dad expressed that throughout MOS... And this is before he was Superman. If he saved his dad, it would've been Clark Kent with superpowers saving his family. Not Superman ... Not hard to comprehend.

The POTUS already had Intel telling them there was no logical way to defeat Doomsday so it was a high risk, high reward way of beating the creature. In these movies, nuking creatures is the number one plan for defeating things not understandable threatening humans. Name a movie where humans didn't try to nuke threatening beings. Superman would be considered collateral damage...

How many times do we need to explain Lex's hatred of Superman... Especially since in every adaptation Lex has hated Superman

They didn't have time to introduce every character in their own movie which is why this was made. The universe already existed in this adaptation based off the clues in this movie and if any of the viewers followed the current universe as is. In MOS... Batman, Flash, Cyborg, WW, Aquaman, etc., already existed and were around but just weren't recognized until this movie... They did that on purpose. They were hidden, myths, or metas that were already being observed. The appearance of Superman brought them to the fore front. In which will be addressed in BvS and SS.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

At that point in time, his dad in MOS didn't feel like the world was ready for people to see his powers. He was trying to protect his son. His dad expressed that throughout MOS... And this is before he was Superman. If he saved his dad, it would've been Clark Kent with superpowers saving his family. Not Superman ... Not hard to comprehend.

so who saved those guys on the oil rig, clark kent or superman. why does it matter? why did he save those guys but not his own father?

also, if pa kent was so against him being a hero... what's the point of the last scene in MOS when ma kent tells clark that his father always wanted this for him

and then in BVS superman says "superman was a kansas farmer's dream".... breh he spent the whole last movie telling you to hide yourself.


is it oochie walley or is it one mic

 

[Numpsay]

Batman was leading Doomsday away from the city

This was after that point . After WW came down and saved his ass. He added nothing to the fight besides the kyrptonite grenade.

 

[Reactor1804]

Just came back from the movie theater. I was a little hesitant to watch it at first because of all the negative reviews, but fucc that. The movie was next level good. Half the crowd gave it a standing ovation. Happily impressed and cant wait for the JL movies!

 

[O.T.I.S.]

I had no idea what was happening there, or in Batman's dream thing.....Flash warns him about something....and something about Lois Lane.....that had nothing to do with the story?

I read someone say that that was used to propel Batman's hated of Superman....which if accurate is just inexcusably lazy lol. Can't make our plot work in reality, let's just have him dream an alternate future.

Ok.

Lex got access to the ship and Zods body.

He gained access to the ship using Zods key... Same type of key Superman had in MOS. those keys weren't exclusive to kryptonians... Most of them had keys like that to access ships controls. Lex found Zods key that was not completely active. Just like in MOS when Supermans key had to be forced into the drive to access the ship. Lex inserted the key completely and had access to the ship. In which he asked the system tonyeach him as much as he could learn.

The "dreams" Bruce were receiving were from the future... Maybe it was things that already happened but in a different time but we won't know YET. Flash was traveling back in time to warn Bruce which is not far fetched since Flash has the ability to travel in time and has done it to warn or alter the future in the first place. He was trying to warn Bruce about the future and that his initial beliefs of Superman were right... Atleast in that time period. He was trying to tell Bruce to find them and crest JL because maybe things were different in that period. Maybe he didn't find them, maybe things just developed but he went back in time to tell him to do whatever he can to form the JL before things got as bad as there became them... Which has happened before in this universe.

It wasn't used to propel his hatred it was used to set up the universe for the rest of the JL universe.. Which is why Bruce was telling Diana that they need to find the others and they will need to fight because of a "feeling" he had

 

[Roman Brady]

This was after that point . After WW came down and saved his ass. He added nothing to the fight besides the kyrptonite grenade.

What was he suppose to do? They already made him meta human lite as he humbled goons was this overpowered(ness) suppose to extend to him being able to fight doomsday too?