The Official Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Movie Thread

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This scene was incorporated so they can draw from it later in the movie.

His parent's death....he falls into the cave and "rises" *its a dream*

The following scene is the attack on Metropolis and shows the first time he's feels helpless since his parents death.

This time he falls and does not do Batman like things. Only until finding humanity in Superman that he rises and becomes Batman again.

I think it gets better on multiple viewings. But I can see how you feel that way about how the story is unfolds.
You get it bruh.

This is pretty much how I saw it. Batman was broken (they've mentioned this plenty times). He felt powerless and hopeless not just with Superman... In general. Felt like all the shyt he's done in 20 years couldn't save his parents, couldn't save Robin, and then couldn't save the employees at the Wayne tower. That's why he was kinda a brutal a$$hole with a drinking problem... The drinking being the main clue to dude no longer giving a fukk as much

He saw Superman as another reason he will become powerless and chose to obsessively stop him however he could..

Lex was more envious than Bruce was. He wanted to feel as powerful as Superman and destroying Superman (whether it came from Batman or Doomsday) was the key to becoming what Superman is... Which is damn near a god.

While Superman just wanted to do what's right and just but realized that the world is never going to make that easy. No matter what he did it became scrutinized... Even if he wasn't the one doing it. After the bombing of congress he was pretty much done with everything and went into seclusion. He didn't know if he was helping the world or hurting it.

I loved the movie honestly. All you had to do was put yourself in relatable shoes. Even Lex became more like able once you understood all the riddles he was throwing out left and right.
 
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I also am starting to realize that these characters are not fully formed to what we know and love... Unlike the Marvel Movies honestly.

This is still kinda an origin story for all of them. Like the marvel movies quickly made their personalities form.

While Batman is forming to become the JL Batman we recognize, Superman is still becoming the Superman we recognize (which I said in MOS), Lex is developing into the cold calculating Lex we recognize, and Wonder Woman (who doesn't even LIKE mankind in this movie) is forming into the hero we recognize.

Just a different approach. Marvel hits us with that quick fix while DC is trying to give a slow burn. Marvel is your favorite fast food while DC is that steak you just spent hours marinating and cooking just to savor it... And I'm cool with both
 
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Literally one of the dumbest fukking scenes in FILM HISTORY dude. I hate this stupid fukking movie just for this stupid fukking scene. Absolutely unequivocally RETARDED


*Waits for somebody to come in here dropping "science" on why this scene is profoundly deep and just went over our heads*:troll:
 

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So this Superman won't save his dad because it will expose his powers.....but will go fight/kill Batman to save his mom?

The "nuke Superman" scene belonged in a G.I. Joe with how poorly it was done. 5 minutes after Doomsday appears, POTUS and the joint chiefs are ready to literally launch nukes at him? Sure.

Why does this incarnation of Lex Luthor hate Superman? Why does he know who Clark Kent is....in a world where Clark Kent doesn't know who Bruce Wayne is? And why is them meeting at his party a big deal to him?

The basics of this film would work a million times better if they would've taken their time and introduced this Batman in his own damn film. His arc in BvS would actually hold weight if we got the chance to see his descent. Would also have given the Lex/Superman relationship to breathe.
 
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