The Official Anabolic Thread
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Waterproof
Warrior Lifestyle
All depend on the sources, I know a few homies that sell me 50 a bottle, but some people have different prices on bottles and each lab price is different.
It cost a pretty penny, A 4 month cycle of Test can run you anywhere around 200 to 300 dollars, I can get it for 200, not bad at all
Waterproof
Warrior Lifestyle
Headaches from my Blood Pressure it was slightly up, Went to GNC got some Hawthorne Berry and that was the end of that.
Yes I highly recommend blood work before/after each cycle...’I’m on TRT so I am going to always be on a small dosage of test
Hmmm. Not gonna lie. Im going to see how this year goes in the gym. And then maybe 2019 look into it. Should you get blood work done before and after and all that stuff?
Waterproof
Warrior Lifestyle
Good Lookin, it seems you ran SARMS before. I ran 2 in the pill form from MAX Muscle, never the liquid but after this cycle I'm going to run the liquid
What was your experience with SARM's
Waterproof
Warrior Lifestyle
The Creation and Evolution of Performance Enhancing Drugs
The breakthrough point in modern chemical enhancement took place in Germany, in the 1930’s. A team of scientists was able to create a synthetic form of testosterone to help treat men who were unable to produce enough of the hormone for normal growth, development and sexual function. The basic male androgen, testosterone, was manufactured and a Nobel Prize was awarded to the German scientists for their crowning achievement. In 1954 the American Dr. John Zeigler manufactured the first Androgenic Anabolic Steroid in the form of tablet, methandrostenolone(better known as Dianabol). He successfully pioneered its athletic use as an aid to increase muscle growth in bodybuilders, weightlifters and competitive athletes.
Amphetamines were used widely by soldiers from many countries during the Second World War. These drugs minimize the uncomfortable sensations of fatigue during exercise, and help provide energy and focus. These cognitive and ergogenic benefits are also experienced by athletes, and have ensured this class of drug a place in the drug regimens of many athletes from the early 1950’s to the present day.
Later, during the 60’s, several other testosterone derivatives came to the forefront. Stanozolol (winstrol), methenolone (primobolan), mesterolone (proviron), oxymetholone (anadrol) and drostanolone (masterone) were also synthesized for purely medical purposes. In professional sports, steroid use was also on the rise, especially in football where size and strength are essential to a player’s effectiveness. During the cold war, Eastern bloc countries (DDR, USSR, Bulgaria and China-N.Korea later) specialized in PED doping methods as a means of establishing their superiority. There was a program organized from the communist government in which politicians, physicians, trainers and athletes focused on how to win medals in order to promote communism. Although it was suspected during this period that AAS were being used systematically by athletes, testing methods were insufficiently developed to warrant the inclusion of steroids in the list of banned substances in urine/blood analysis. In 1975, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) finally banned the use of steroids in Olympic competition; while in 1976 steroid testing was conducted for the first time at the Montreal Olympics.
In the 1990’s, during the reunification of Germany, numerous documents from this program were revealed. These documents showed evidence of a vast steroid program used by Olympic athletes. Type of drugs, dosage administered, regularity of administration, and proper timing of pre-competition withdrawal in order to pass the anti-doping control were revealed for roughly 400 athletes. The Ministry for State Security was in charge of overseeing this operation and also providing the drugs. Professors, doctors, scientists performed doping research and administered prescription drugs as well as unapproved experimental drug preparations to thousand athletes, including women and adolescent girls. A study showed that over 68 percent of the athletes at the 1972 Olympics were using or had used steroids. And in 1976, East Germany’s women’s track and swim teams, the Wonder Girls (as they came to be known), were discovered using steroids. Sadly, parents of the young athletes had no idea what the trainers had given to their children. They had assumed it was just basic supplementation with vitamins. Athletes pressed charges against their trainers, as several Olympic champions and world champion athletes have faced serious medical issues as a result of their PED use.
Soon after the fall of the Berlin wall (early 1990’s), many PED gurus left their countries and immigrated West. Many came to the US in particular, asking for political asylum. Afterwards, the anabolic knowledge of Eastern Europe was united with America’s advanced technology, and evolutionary methods of chemical enhancement were developed. Peptides, as well as synthetic form of somatotropin (Human Growth Hormone
[rhGH]) and other hormones (Somatomedin C-IGF1, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin [HCG]) were manufactured through molecular biology techniques, including recombinant DNA technology.
It’s been speculated by some that the Olympic Games of 1988 belonged to AAS, while the Olympic Games of 1996 to creatine monohydrate. In the 2000 Olympic Games EPO was on stage and in 2004 HGH was the new undetected weapon of athletes. Tetrahydrogestrinone (THG) was developed at this time, when EPO, HGH and traditional anabolic steroids were high on the radar of testing organizations. The drug has been considered a designer steroid, and was referred to as an unapproved new drug by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in 2003, before the subsequent scheduling of it in 2005. THG, the second reported designer AAS, was used to improve athletic performance and was not approved for medical purposes.
Other kinds of PED’s include diuretics, β2-agonists & inhibitors, narcotic analgesics, cannabinoids, a variety of CNS stimulants, corticosteroids, selective androgen receptor modulators (SARM’s), selective estrogen receptor modulators (SERM’s), myostatin inhibitors (MYOi) and aromatase inhibitors (AI’s).
As shown, PED’s are present in numerous sports and often tarnish the spirit of competition by creating what is viewed by many as an unfair playing field. Sports medicine physicians should be aware of the variety of PED’s available, in order to best advise athletes on the risks and benefits of these drugs. At the time of this article, doping and performance enhancing drug use is on the rise, and new drugs are being created.
References:
1. Amit Momaya, Marc Fawal, Reed Este. Performance-Enhancing Substances in Sports: A Review of the Literature. Sports Medicine 2015; 45, (4): 517-531
2. Kenneth P. Barnes, Catherine R. Rainbow. Update on Banned Substances 2013. Sports Health. 2013; 5, (5): 442–447
3. Werner W. Franke, Brigitte Berendonk. Hormonal doping and androgenization of athletes: a secret program of the German Democratic Republic government.Clinical Chemistry 1997; 43, (7): 1262–1279
4. Doping in sport. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The breakthrough point in modern chemical enhancement took place in Germany, in the 1930’s. A team of scientists was able to create a synthetic form of testosterone to help treat men who were unable to produce enough of the hormone for normal growth, development and sexual function. The basic male androgen, testosterone, was manufactured and a Nobel Prize was awarded to the German scientists for their crowning achievement. In 1954 the American Dr. John Zeigler manufactured the first Androgenic Anabolic Steroid in the form of tablet, methandrostenolone(better known as Dianabol). He successfully pioneered its athletic use as an aid to increase muscle growth in bodybuilders, weightlifters and competitive athletes.
Amphetamines were used widely by soldiers from many countries during the Second World War. These drugs minimize the uncomfortable sensations of fatigue during exercise, and help provide energy and focus. These cognitive and ergogenic benefits are also experienced by athletes, and have ensured this class of drug a place in the drug regimens of many athletes from the early 1950’s to the present day.
Later, during the 60’s, several other testosterone derivatives came to the forefront. Stanozolol (winstrol), methenolone (primobolan), mesterolone (proviron), oxymetholone (anadrol) and drostanolone (masterone) were also synthesized for purely medical purposes. In professional sports, steroid use was also on the rise, especially in football where size and strength are essential to a player’s effectiveness. During the cold war, Eastern bloc countries (DDR, USSR, Bulgaria and China-N.Korea later) specialized in PED doping methods as a means of establishing their superiority. There was a program organized from the communist government in which politicians, physicians, trainers and athletes focused on how to win medals in order to promote communism. Although it was suspected during this period that AAS were being used systematically by athletes, testing methods were insufficiently developed to warrant the inclusion of steroids in the list of banned substances in urine/blood analysis. In 1975, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) finally banned the use of steroids in Olympic competition; while in 1976 steroid testing was conducted for the first time at the Montreal Olympics.
In the 1990’s, during the reunification of Germany, numerous documents from this program were revealed. These documents showed evidence of a vast steroid program used by Olympic athletes. Type of drugs, dosage administered, regularity of administration, and proper timing of pre-competition withdrawal in order to pass the anti-doping control were revealed for roughly 400 athletes. The Ministry for State Security was in charge of overseeing this operation and also providing the drugs. Professors, doctors, scientists performed doping research and administered prescription drugs as well as unapproved experimental drug preparations to thousand athletes, including women and adolescent girls. A study showed that over 68 percent of the athletes at the 1972 Olympics were using or had used steroids. And in 1976, East Germany’s women’s track and swim teams, the Wonder Girls (as they came to be known), were discovered using steroids. Sadly, parents of the young athletes had no idea what the trainers had given to their children. They had assumed it was just basic supplementation with vitamins. Athletes pressed charges against their trainers, as several Olympic champions and world champion athletes have faced serious medical issues as a result of their PED use.
Soon after the fall of the Berlin wall (early 1990’s), many PED gurus left their countries and immigrated West. Many came to the US in particular, asking for political asylum. Afterwards, the anabolic knowledge of Eastern Europe was united with America’s advanced technology, and evolutionary methods of chemical enhancement were developed. Peptides, as well as synthetic form of somatotropin (Human Growth Hormone
[rhGH]) and other hormones (Somatomedin C-IGF1, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin [HCG]) were manufactured through molecular biology techniques, including recombinant DNA technology.
It’s been speculated by some that the Olympic Games of 1988 belonged to AAS, while the Olympic Games of 1996 to creatine monohydrate. In the 2000 Olympic Games EPO was on stage and in 2004 HGH was the new undetected weapon of athletes. Tetrahydrogestrinone (THG) was developed at this time, when EPO, HGH and traditional anabolic steroids were high on the radar of testing organizations. The drug has been considered a designer steroid, and was referred to as an unapproved new drug by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in 2003, before the subsequent scheduling of it in 2005. THG, the second reported designer AAS, was used to improve athletic performance and was not approved for medical purposes.
Other kinds of PED’s include diuretics, β2-agonists & inhibitors, narcotic analgesics, cannabinoids, a variety of CNS stimulants, corticosteroids, selective androgen receptor modulators (SARM’s), selective estrogen receptor modulators (SERM’s), myostatin inhibitors (MYOi) and aromatase inhibitors (AI’s).
As shown, PED’s are present in numerous sports and often tarnish the spirit of competition by creating what is viewed by many as an unfair playing field. Sports medicine physicians should be aware of the variety of PED’s available, in order to best advise athletes on the risks and benefits of these drugs. At the time of this article, doping and performance enhancing drug use is on the rise, and new drugs are being created.
References:
1. Amit Momaya, Marc Fawal, Reed Este. Performance-Enhancing Substances in Sports: A Review of the Literature. Sports Medicine 2015; 45, (4): 517-531
2. Kenneth P. Barnes, Catherine R. Rainbow. Update on Banned Substances 2013. Sports Health. 2013; 5, (5): 442–447
3. Werner W. Franke, Brigitte Berendonk. Hormonal doping and androgenization of athletes: a secret program of the German Democratic Republic government.Clinical Chemistry 1997; 43, (7): 1262–1279
4. Doping in sport. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Waterproof
Warrior Lifestyle
Week 2 - Pinned 300mg Test Sus in Left Delt. Pin was easy, no Pain.
Blasting Back today, this is only my 2nd pin so there's nothing to report.
But That Androvar and 11-X kicked in, I lost a lot of Bodyfat, strength went up crazy and the muscle is harder
Blasting Back today, this is only my 2nd pin so there's nothing to report.
But That Androvar and 11-X kicked in, I lost a lot of Bodyfat, strength went up crazy and the muscle is harder
Waterproof
Warrior Lifestyle
a little known side effect of tren is the hiccups...I'm going thru it right now...I'm going to run this Tren cycle about another 2 weeks. About to get off the Tren Enanthate and get onto the Acetate so that it clears my system faster.
I like SARMS and really think they could replace certain steroids....I keep Cardarine in rotation.
But when I do the SARMS comparison I compare:
S-23 to Winstrol- comparable gains and muscle hardenining
LGD 4033 to D-Bol- LGD gives you strength and size gains with lower water retention, lower blood pressure
RAD-140 to M1T-
Ostarine MK-2866 to T-Bol
I like SARMS because it's less on the side effects and not as harsh on the system except for S-23 which should just be a full on steroid. I really think a lot more people should consider using a SARM as an oral to a cycle with a test base.
But when I do the SARMS comparison I compare:
S-23 to Winstrol- comparable gains and muscle hardenining
LGD 4033 to D-Bol- LGD gives you strength and size gains with lower water retention, lower blood pressure
RAD-140 to M1T-
Ostarine MK-2866 to T-Bol
I like SARMS because it's less on the side effects and not as harsh on the system except for S-23 which should just be a full on steroid. I really think a lot more people should consider using a SARM as an oral to a cycle with a test base.
Waterproof
Warrior Lifestyle
Tren only gave me Night Sweats, I never had the Tren cough, hiccups or sleep problems.
How long you running the Tren
