The Official 2024 College Football Random Thoughts Thread

[Silkk]

Florida always has talent as a state, but getting it into Gainesville is another

Hate this narrative so much….


You only hear it when teams are losing. Heard it about Michigan until they started winning again, Heard it about ND until they started winning again, Heard it about GT until they started winning, Stanford, etc.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

@daemonova Illinois @ Nebraska should be a dope game tonight

Nebraska by 14

 

[DropTopDoc]

Hate this narrative so much….


You only hear it when teams are losing. Heard it about Michigan until they started winning again, Heard it about ND until they started winning again, Heard it about GT until they started winning, Stanford, etc.

When i say that being too 5 in the nation vs 17th

 

[Silkk]

When i say that being too 5 in the nation vs 17th

Man they just had the #7 class coming off of a horrendous year

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

When i say that being too 5 in the nation vs 17th

IIRC hoke had a better class on paper than Jim ever had

Tennessee had a few top 3 classes that didn't pan out

 

[DropTopDoc]

IIRC hoke had a better class on paper than Jim ever had

Tennessee had a few top 3 classes that didn't pan out

Numbers are relative but when urban was in Gainesville and Florida co-Ed’s you could see the talent vs the rest of the sec

 

[DropTopDoc]

Man they just had the #7 class coming off of a horrendous year

Ranked 12th according to 24/7 and that’s relative but you know how that goes

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Numbers are relative but when urban was in Gainesville and Florida co-Ed’s you could see the talent vs the rest of the sec

Urban's classes were top 3ish every year when UF was dominating, with multiple 5*'s every class

 

[Silkk]

Ranked 12th according to 24/7 and that’s relative but you know how that goes

Even so

 

[Drake's Tan]

Nebraska had a run back in the 80s-90s that was elite.

Then they fell off a cliff.

Rhule is building them back but probably not to the status they were in the Osborne days.

Post-Meyer, Florida has been in a post-Nebraskia-Joining-the-B1G spiral where they just can't find the right guy to turn them around. They might be pre-Rhule Nebraska/Vandy status for another decade or two until all of Foley's minions in the UAA get the

ATP Florida should consider joining ACC (Miami or FSU could replace them in the SEC). The admin clearly has no interest in being an SEC caliber program, so they really shouldn't be in that league and should focus on competing with schools like Duke, Cal, Stanford. Or even consider joining a non-P4 conference. On talent alone they should be able to win a G5 conference every so often and make a playoff appearance

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Nebraska had a run back in the 80s-90s that was elite.

Then they fell off a cliff.

Rhule is building them back but probably not to the status they were in the Osborne days.

Post-Meyer, Florida has been in a post-Nebraskia-Joining-the-B1G spiral where they just can't find the right guy to turn them around. They might be pre-Rhule Nebraska/Vandy status for another decade or two until all of Foley's minions in the UAA get the

The major difference is the state of Florida, on any given year, is at worst the 3rd best state for HS talent. Osborne was dominating in pre-scholarship limit eras, also by skating by scholarship limit rules (state issued scholarships to choice NE recruits), in an era where only 8-10 schools were routinely televised. Nebraska has to bring in recruits that are from an average of 700+ miles away. Unless they hit on a generational coach (urban meyer level), they'll never be what they once were.

It's no coincidence that the schools that are routine title contenders are also in talent rich regions.

 

[Drake's Tan]

The major difference is the state of Florida, on any given year, is at worst the 3rd best state for HS talent. Osborne was dominating in pre-scholarship limit eras, also by skating by scholarship limit rules (state issued scholarships to choice NE recruits), in an era where only 8-10 schools were routinely televised. Nebraska has to bring in recruits that are from an average of 700+ miles away. Unless they hit on a generational coaching talent, they'll never be what they once were.

It's no coincidence that the schools that are routine title contenders are also in talent rich regions.

Lots of talent in Florida, as a state, but programs from other regions (Ohio State, Alabama, etc) are plucking talent from the state. With UF's admin wanting to be "the Stanford of the South" many of the most talented athletes don't qualify on the roster due to academically being ineligible.

This is partially why Florida's recruiting has been such trash the past few years (while hiring bad recruiters like Mullen and all around trash coaches like Napier have also hurt).

Until the administration is committed to winning, building up NIL, letting murderers onto the roster, and hiring big name "splash" coaches (or at least trying to hire one) Florida is going to be a 6-7 win program at best (like they were under Mullen) or complete garbage like they are under Napier.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Lots of talent in Florida, as a state, but programs from other regions (Ohio State, Alabama, etc) are plucking talent from the state. With UF's admin wanting to be "the Stanford of the South" many of the most talented athletes don't qualify on the roster due to academically being ineligible.

This is partially why Florida's recruiting has been such trash the past few years (while hiring bad recruiters like Mullen and all around trash coaches like Napier have also hurt).

Until the administration is committed to winning, building up NIL, letting murderers onto the roster, and hiring big name "splash" coaches (or at least trying to hire one) Florida is going to be a 6-7 win program at best (like they were under Mullen) or complete garbage like they are under Napier.

UF will be elite again, far before Nebraska ever is. Nebraska would need Rialo (sp?) to legit be the next Mahomes to come close to wining the big ten.

They've never beat OSU since joining the B1G...even purdue has since then

 

[Trav]

OU - Tennessee will top this list next week, at worst 2nd place.

But unfortunately, we're so banged up on Oline and WR we haven't got much offense.

Disappointing start to the season for us. I don't see how we'll win this Sat with so many key starters injured.

How y'all feeling about BV overall and how he's done, what he's building, etc?

 

[DropTopDoc]

Even so

Big difference in top 5 top10 and lower

UF will be elite again, far before Nebraska ever is. Nebraska would need Rialo (sp?) to legit be the next Mahomes to come close to wining the big ten.

They've never beat OSU since joining the B1G...even purdue has since then

Purdue won on a good team/game plan and sleepwalking osu