The Official 2024-25 MLB Hot Stove Thread
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2026 MLB Ballot...
Some familiar names that won't get elected:
Felix Hernandez
Bobby Abreu
Alex Gordon
Edwin Encarnacion
Shin-Soo Choo
Howie Kendrick
Nick Markakis
Hunter Pence
Gio Gonzalez
Jason Kipnis
Rick Porcello
Chris Davis
Possibly elected some day:
Carlos Beltran
Andruw Jones
Chase Utley
Jimmy Rollins
Cole Hamels
Unlikely elected:
Ryan Braun
Guys being held out because of PEDs:
Alex Rodriguez
Manny Ramirez
Some familiar names that won't get elected:
Felix Hernandez
Bobby Abreu
Alex Gordon
Edwin Encarnacion
Shin-Soo Choo
Howie Kendrick
Nick Markakis
Hunter Pence
Gio Gonzalez
Jason Kipnis
Rick Porcello
Chris Davis
Possibly elected some day:
Carlos Beltran
Andruw Jones
Chase Utley
Jimmy Rollins
Cole Hamels
Unlikely elected:
Ryan Braun
Guys being held out because of PEDs:
Alex Rodriguez
Manny Ramirez
VegetasHairline
Veteran
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
That’s crazy that Felix Hernandez isn’t a HOFer. He was great for so many years but his numbers don’t match up.
Felix Hernandez is a little forgotten for his greatness.
Same with Johan Santana and Tim Lincecum.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
At least with Lincecum and Santana, they had injuries and fell off and had a lot of mid seasons.
Hernandez finished top ten in cy young voting six times. He was pretty consistent throughout his career until the end with the injuries. He is probably a HOFer if he has two more years.
Spidey Man
Superstar
Now and forever, fukk Chase utley
Looking at old Cy Young winners...
In 1996, Pat Hentgen won it over Andy Pettitte.
At the time, I remember arguing hard that it was wrong and voters were just hating on a Yankee.
Then I realized later that Hentgen threw like 40 more innings and had an ERA a half run lower.
Sometimes the voters get it right.
In 1996, Pat Hentgen won it over Andy Pettitte.
At the time, I remember arguing hard that it was wrong and voters were just hating on a Yankee.
Then I realized later that Hentgen threw like 40 more innings and had an ERA a half run lower.
Sometimes the voters get it right.
.303/.369/.516
.885 OPS
332 HR
1,287 RBI
2,134 HITS
17 seasons
Not in the Hall of Fame.
Those are Moises Alou's numbers.
Crazy how good some guys were...but not good enough.
Notable players with a .900 career OPS who are not in the baseball Hall of Fame:
Brian Giles
Jim Edmonds
Juan Gonzalez
Mo Vaughn
Gary Sheffield
Jason Giambi
Carlos Delgado
.885 OPS
332 HR
1,287 RBI
2,134 HITS
17 seasons
Not in the Hall of Fame.
Those are Moises Alou's numbers.
Crazy how good some guys were...but not good enough.
Notable players with a .900 career OPS who are not in the baseball Hall of Fame:
Brian Giles
Jim Edmonds
Juan Gonzalez
Mo Vaughn
Gary Sheffield
Jason Giambi
Carlos Delgado
VegetasHairline
Veteran
Ozzie Smith is in the Hall of Fame for his defense, Andruw Jones should be in for his defense as well.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
You were biased as fukk lol
I haven’t looked at the numbers since, but I think Petite’s only claim was winning like 25 games.
He'd be the first from Curacao, I think.Ozzie Smith is in the Hall of Fame for his defense, Andruw Jones should be in for his defense as well.
I will say this...when the Braves went up 2-0 in that 96 World Series and Jones hit those 2 HR...I do clearly remember thinking ...who the fukk is THIS GUY?
Because I didn't know anything about him. Maybe just ignorance but in those days you didn't see coverage of that many players. Interleague play wasn't a thing yet. I don't think.
VegetasHairline
Veteran
Felix Hernandez also debuted in the majors at 19. He also threw over 200 innings for 8 straight seasons starting at age 22. Hernandez played for some terrible Seattle teams too.
For comparison, Lincecum only threw over 200 innings 4 times in 10 seasons. Santana only threw over 200 innings 5 times in 12 seasons. Hernandez pitched for 15 seasons.
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