The Official 2023 NBA Draft Talk Thread
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Hawks easily select Bilal Coulibaly, F, France #0 Saint-Cloud, France
Jackson-Davis.
FukkaPaidEmail
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On twitter there are a decent amount of people saying Miller > scoot as far value … I don’t think Miller is all that great a prospect but I see where they are coming from and have a hard time disagreeing
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tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
He's the better fit for Charlotte, but assuming Wemby becomes everything we think he'll be, one of Miller /Henderson WILL fail. Both have legit causes for concern. Scoot has the less clear road to shine regardless of who drafts him, but Miller on talent isn't as good as Scoot and can easily fall into tweener status depending on how he's used.
The knock on Scoot is that he's 6'2'' without a jumper and Miller is more moldable as far as how the league wants to play, but if he really had Paul George potential, this isn't a debate.
A legit question truthfully is what separates Scoot from the Thompson Twins besides comp.
he's not the better fit, he's the lazy "lamelo is a guard so get a wing" plug in.
miller being a bad finisher at his size is dramatically worse than the myth that scoot can't shoot too. hell, if scoot enjoyed the same spacing that miller had at alabama he'd have outrageous numbers too
FukkaPaidEmail
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Amen shot looks nasty ..like I don’t see how he can get that off consistently off the dribble .BUT If they both reach their potential I think Amen will be more valuable just off him being bigger .
I ageee with the Paul George ceiling thing ..if Miller was more athletic I think it would be a done deal..I just don’t see that with Miller personally.
No reason to take a small guard high when the league is leaning towards 6’5+ guys being able to do the same thing a smaller guy can .
Blackrogue
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that whole "small guys can't be an impact" shyt is fugazi imo. just more lazy stuff that gets repeated til its fact
scoot is a lot closer to deaaron fox than miller is to paul george. miller being a poor finisher at his size is the exact same thing that holds back tons of wings in the league as well too.
scoot is a lot closer to deaaron fox than miller is to paul george. miller being a poor finisher at his size is the exact same thing that holds back tons of wings in the league as well too.
Wargames
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Spurs don’t go amazing guard play either…. Maybe they want to throw money at FVV cause they got it.
FukkaPaidEmail
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tbf it has been proven that wings/bigs win rings unless you’re an alien like Steph and even he needed big help from the wing spot ..:before him it was 30 + years ago (Zeke) ..All those small super athletes run wild in the regular season but when the playoffs hit its curtains year after year….they can’t be your #1
Now with that said I’m not taking Miller over Scoot because I think Milller is OTF Otto Porter and you 100% right with the rim pressure issues with Miller (Like Jabari last year ) but let’s say he’s Khris Middleton …
that’s harder to get than a small PG and would probably be better overall for the Hornets
It's not just the Wizards. The Jazz may take Wallace.
With the Wizards, VP of College Personnel, Frank Ross was at dinner with Anthony Black last night.
Paul George wasn’t exactly Paul George as a freshman in college either … it’s a projection game in the draft
im jus saying - at what point are you actively talking yourself out of taking a guy because of a bias that's generally kinda weak?tbf it has been proven that wings/bigs win rings unless you’re an alien like Steph and even he needed big help from the wing spot ..:before him it was 30 + years ago (Zeke) ..All those small super athletes run wild in the regular season but when the playoffs hit its curtains year after year….they can’t be your #1
Now with that said I’m not taking Miller over Scoot because I think Milller is OTF Otto Porter and you 100% right with the rim pressure issues with Miller (Like Jabari last year ) but let’s say he’s Khris Middleton …
a 6'2ish guy with all the tools, and a body that isnt a timebomb - which is arguably the biggest factor for guys of that frame, isn't some mirage of an archetype. there's plenty of guards in the league making all-star games, improving year after year, adapting to different schemes, etc at his size. the 'barrier' is being that size and having massive holes in your game or being a defensive liability. that's not the issue here
and miller would be a dramatically different prospect if he could finish the same way he rebounds and didn't disappear when teams decided to focus on him
that's fair and i never liked the comp in the first place. ppl just love the miller/george comp even though he projects towards rashard lewis more than anything imo
FukkaPaidEmail
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Scoots barrier is his shooting ..DRose,Westbrook,Fox thrived anyway because they had the ball in their hands damn near from day 1 …In Charlotte you already have Lamelo there so the question is will he ever be able to shoot well enough to play off him but the fact that he has pretty clear all-star upside and Miller doesn’t (imo) means you have to take him and would be goofy not to.
