The Official 2020 NBA Draft Talk Thread (11/18)

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Squirrel from Meteor Man said:
@Gil Scott-Heroin has zero idea about talent or basketball. Wiseman is the best prospect in this draft period. He’s been NBA ready for 2 years
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You're a sucker for punishment, aren't you?

It doesn't mean a cotdamn thing if Wiseman is the "best prospect" in this draft. The best prospect isn't going to help the Warriors win next season. The best fit and player who can accentuate their strengths is going to help them win next season. Wiseman needs a franchise that's willing to take their time with him and give him a central role that allows him to play through his ups/downs - that's not the Warriors. They ain't got no time for that. It's win now.
 
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KevJ said:
yeah I was gonna take him if he dropped any lower to save everybody the embarrassment
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Bey isn't too bad though. He can theoretically take Green's roster spot.

That said, I expect Ainge to trade the pick in real life
 
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Left.A1 said:
That's only because people are projecting a theoretical version of Deni into the NBA... Not the guy who is actually on tape... "In theory" he's this fluid secondary ballhanding/playmaker with a high iq high motor that'll shoot well enough to keep the defense honest... real Swiss army knife kind of dude...


In REALITY however he's a mediocre 33% 3 point shooter that shot a pathetic .58 % from the line which should certainly caution anyone from automatically projecting him out as this + shooter ... His wingspan was last measured at 6'9" which is also rather mediocre for a guy projecting to be a swing forward defensively... His lateral footspeed isn't exactly explosive ..he's more of a straight away guy.. so one can definitely question his ability to defend high level F's in the NBA ... His off the dribble game is rather embryonic... No real secondary moves no real wiggle no real special ballhanding pretty upright and stiff from a guy you who will need the ball in his hands to maximize what he's "projected" to be ... to me thats scary ...way too many red flags
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His season percentages are a gross misrepresentation of his shooting ability, especially if you're not able to contextualize it with what's happening on the floor.

He shot 35% from behind the arc in the IBSL, and was hitting in the mid-40% for a brief stretch when he grew into his role and started getting more consistent minutes and got his hands on the rock more. In the EuroLeague (where he shot 27% on a much smaller sample size), he had a completely different role and had fluctuating minutes, where he wasn't getting regular touches to develop any rhythm.

When the IBSL resumed, he shot 41% from behind the arc (5.6 attempts per game) and 72% from the FT (4.1 attempts per game) in the rest of the regular-season games.
Avdija on his 3-point shooting:

“I think a lot of guys who are not in the team or not in basketball don’t understand some things about the shot. The shot is not always about your technique. I think my technique is good. I just think that people don’t see the surroundings, so, people forget that I was young. I was going through a team with a lot of experience, with a lot of pressure, with a lot of fans every night. I played several kinds of minutes. Sometimes less, sometimes more, sometimes there’s more pressure. It was kind of ups and downs in the shot. I think towards the end I felt very comfortable in the team, and that’s the main reason why I think I shot better. I think my confidence raised, and I felt better. And the guys made me feel better. I can shoot. I’m a great shooter. … If I couldn’t shoot, I wouldn’t shoot 3′s. But as long as I shoot, I’m confident, and I’m trying to make every shot I can.”
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In the majority of games I watched, he was typically put in situations where the shot-clock was running out and/or took it upon himself to take a shot when nobody else wanted to, which obviously don't reflect too kindly on his percentages. It'd seem to be a running theme all throughout the season. When he got open looks, he was sinking them; when he had time to hit a combo or got the ball in good spots, he was sinking them.

His perceived shooting woes are more based around what is circumstantial than anything glaring about his mechanics - which do project as being a plus-shooter in the NBA.
 
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Gil Scott-Heroin said:
You're a sucker for punishment, aren't you?

It doesn't mean a cotdamn thing if Wiseman is the "best prospect" in this draft. The best prospect isn't going to help the Warriors win next season. The best fit and player who can accentuate their strengths is going to help them win next season. Wiseman needs a franchise that's willing to take their time with him and give him a central role that allows him to play through his ups/downs - that's not the Warriors. They ain't got no time for that. It's win now.
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You are the most clueless, casual poster here.

Wiseman is ready to contribute to any team right now. He’s been ready since high school.
 
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Squirrel from Meteor Man said:
You are the most clueless, casual poster here.
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Why do you keep saying this as if I haven't embarrassed you at every turn, even to the point where you've put me on ignore cause you don't want to deal with all the dumb shyt you post?

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Squirrel from Meteor Man said:
Wiseman is ready to contribute to any team right now. He’s been ready since high school.
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By contributing, do you mean rolling to the rim?

He's not ready to contribute any meaningful play on a team that's in win-now mode, especially a squad like the Warriors whose offense needs a big man who can stretch the floor and can fit seamlessly into their motion offense. He's not shown any ability of a consistent jumpshot, he has not shown any tendencies where he'd function in a ball/player-movement offense, and he has not shown the ability where he can defend out on the perimeter with any regularity. I don't know how the fukk you came to this conclusion when he was in HS playing against teenagers, where he had a significant size, ability and athletic advantage against. Even grown men, who've had years of experience in the NBA, with higher BBIQ and more pedigree aren't just ready to contribute on this Warriors squad.

This is another one of your takes that's reminiscent of "MAGA Porter Jr will be the best player on the Nuggets the moment he steps foot on the floor". You seem to have no understanding of nuance, and just microwave hot takes thinking they're going to yield automatic results.
 
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Gil Scott-Heroin said:
His season percentages are a gross misrepresentation of his shooting ability, especially if you're not able to contextualize it with what's happening on the floor.
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"Contextualizing ...a.k.a disregarding any data point that isn't in line with my bimbo babble" - @GriftScott-Heroin back at it with another one of his patented Gimmick Posting tactics :mjlol:

He shot 35% from behind the arc in the IBSL, and was hitting in the mid-40% for a brief stretch when he grew into his role and started getting more consistent minutes and got his hands on the rock more. In the EuroLeague (where he shot 27% on a much smaller sample size), he had a completely different role and had fluctuating minutes, where he wasn't getting regular touches to develop any rhythm.

When the IBSL resumed, he shot 41% from behind the arc (5.6 attempts per game) and 72% from the FT (4.1 attempts per game) in the rest of the regular-season games.

In the majority of games I watched, he was typically put in situations where the shot-clock was running out and/or took it upon himself to take a shot when nobody else wanted to, which obviously don't reflect too kindly on his percentages. It'd seem to be a running theme all throughout the season. When he got open looks, he was sinking them; when he had time to hit a combo or got the ball in good spots, he was sinking them.

His perceived shooting woes are more based around what is circumstantial than anything glaring about his mechanics - which do project as being a plus-shooter in the NBA.
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Now you know i don't read your shameless SMUT nikka :mjlol:
 
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