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Rudy Fernandez had his athleticism but was too frail and didn't have a handle.
I'm not saying he'll be a superstar, but best case he'll be an AS player and worst case he's a great role player.

Not saying he wont pan out..he has a better skill set than most coming into the league, but its not a slam dunk that many are making it out to be imo

Also Kobe damn near grew up in Europe.

i actually made the argument he's the GOAT euro but that was a semi-troll argument that was met with some resistance :skip:

2/3s

  • Bogdanovic - meh
  • Petrovic- big success
  • Giricek- wack
  • Planinic- wack
  • Ukic- wack
  • Welsch- wack
  • De Colo- wack
  • Pietrus- good
  • Papanikolau- TBD
  • Belinelli- good but spot shooter
  • D'Antoni- mediocre player
  • Kleiza- pretty good
  • Marciulonas- good
  • Savovic- wack
  • Lampe- epic bust
  • Karasev- bust
  • Korolev- epic bust
  • Jaric- mediocre
  • Nedovic- the "european derrick rose" bust
  • Stojakovic- good
  • Vujacic- belinelli type career but not as good as him IMO
  • Fernandez- good but didnt last, hated it here
  • Claver- wack
  • Navarro- wack
  • Sergio Rodriguez- 1/2 but wack
  • Thabo- good
  • Vesely- epic bust
and many many others not listed only lasted 1-2 years and flamed out or proved they werent worthy
 

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Not a lot of interesting names playing in the 5 on 5 at the combine. These are all guys outside of the top 20

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
Not saying he wont pan out..he has a better skill set than most coming into the league, but its not a slam dunk that many are making it out to be imo



i actually made the argument he's the GOAT euro but that was a semi-troll argument that was met with some resistance :skip:

2/3s

  • Bogdanovic - meh
  • Petrovic- big success
  • Giricek- wack
  • Planinic- wack
  • Ukic- wack
  • Welsch- wack
  • De Colo- wack
  • Pietrus- good
  • Papanikolau- TBD
  • Belinelli- good but spot shooter
  • D'Antoni- mediocre player
  • Kleiza- pretty good
  • Marciulonas- good
  • Savovic- wack
  • Lampe- epic bust
  • Karasev- bust
  • Korolev- epic bust
  • Jaric- mediocre
  • Nedovic- the "european derrick rose" bust
  • Stojakovic- good
  • Vujacic- belinelli type career but not as good as him IMO
  • Fernandez- good but didnt last, hated it here
  • Claver- wack
  • Navarro- wack
  • Sergio Rodriguez- 1/2 but wack
  • Thabo- good
  • Vesely- epic bust
and many many others not listed only lasted 1-2 years and flamed out or proved they werent worthy



None of these guys were viewed as being prospects as good as Hezonja.

Even from a personality standpoint he's different than them, he's viewed as a selfish & cocky player that doesn't trust his teammates :dead:
 

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None of these guys were viewed as being prospects as good as Hezonja.

Even from a personality standpoint he's different than them, he's viewed as a selfish & cocky player that doesn't trust his teammates :dead:

A few of those guys were lotto/first rounders and were touted as having elite athleticism (didnt they keep showing vesely jumping over a car) :pachaha:

karasev and korolev were also recent "Athletic" guys who were flat-out garbage

i do like his arrogance but its yet to be seen how an arrogant rookie white euro wing will be viewed by other players in the league. again, he has a skill-set and resume that is quite solid but he's going to need a perfect landing spot to work quickly or a resolute determination to stick it out rather than go back to europe if it doesnt and neither are guarantees. hell, its not even a guarantee his confidence/arrogance will carry over immediately either.
 

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i do like his arrogance but its yet to be seen how an arrogant rookie white euro wing will be viewed by other players in the league. again, he has a skill-set and resume that is quite solid but he's going to need a perfect landing spot to work quickly or a resolute determination to stick it out rather than go back to europe if it doesnt and neither are guarantees. hell, its not even a guarantee his confidence/arrogance will carry over immediately either.

I agree, Philly and LA would be the best places for him to land.
Sacramento and possibly Miami would be death sentences.
 

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A few of those guys were lotto/first rounders and were touted as having elite athleticism (didnt they keep showing vesely jumping over a car) :pachaha:

karasev and korolev were also recent "Athletic" guys who were flat-out garbage

i do like his arrogance but its yet to be seen how an arrogant rookie white euro wing will be viewed by other players in the league. again, he has a skill-set and resume that is quite solid but he's going to need a perfect landing spot to work quickly or a resolute determination to stick it out rather than go back to europe if it doesnt and neither are guarantees. hell, its not even a guarantee his confidence/arrogance will carry over immediately either.

Karasev has the skill he just doesn't take his career seriously.

He's never stepped foot in the weight room and is blowing all his money on strippers and escorts.

He will be back in Europe soon.
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
A few of those guys were lotto/first rounders and were touted as having elite athleticism (didnt they keep showing vesely jumping over a car) :pachaha:

karasev and korolev were also recent "Athletic" guys who were flat-out garbage

i do like his arrogance but its yet to be seen how an arrogant rookie white euro wing will be viewed by other players in the league. again, he has a skill-set and resume that is quite solid but he's going to need a perfect landing spot to work quickly or a resolute determination to stick it out rather than go back to europe if it doesnt and neither are guarantees. hell, its not even a guarantee his confidence/arrogance will carry over immediately either.



None of those guys were top 10 projected, Hezonja could go in the top 5, he'll be the first Euro wing since Gallo taken top 10. So, he's viewed as a better prospect, especially since this isn't really a weak draft.
 

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A few of those guys were lotto/first rounders and were touted as having elite athleticism (didnt they keep showing vesely jumping over a car) :pachaha:

karasev and korolev were also recent "Athletic" guys who were flat-out garbage

i do like his arrogance but its yet to be seen how an arrogant rookie white euro wing will be viewed by other players in the league. again, he has a skill-set and resume that is quite solid but he's going to need a perfect landing spot to work quickly or a resolute determination to stick it out rather than go back to europe if it doesnt and neither are guarantees. hell, its not even a guarantee his confidence/arrogance will carry over immediately either.


You don't really seem to know shyt about european players, their history in the league, or their scouting reports at the time.
 

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You don't really seem to know shyt about european players, their history in the league, or their scouting reports at the time.

:beli::mjlol:

ok..aside from reading every scouting site possible for over a decade and focusing on draft express since it came out.

hezonja is the best wing prospect clearly (shooting+athleticism whereas many before were one or the other) but hes not a bonafide all-star YET and is not a guarantee to flourish off the bat. a lot people are talking him up to be a 16-18 ppg guy first year in and im saying slow the fukk down on all that.

u still salty about the knicks and your boy maciej?

Lampe was selected by the NBA club the New York Knicks in the second round (30th overall) of the 2003 NBA Draft as an early entry candidate, despite having been projected as a top five lottery pick.
scouting reports at the time though (even though he wasnt a wing):francis:
 

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None of those guys were top 10 projected, Hezonja could go in the top 5, he'll be the first Euro wing since Gallo taken top 10. So, he's viewed as a better prospect, especially since this isn't really a weak draft.

Some of them briefly were then fell out. He is viewed as a better prospect. Never said otherwise. Just trying to say that the athleticism and confidence (particularly those attributes) that sets him apart from his predecessors arent sure things to transfer over quickly.
 
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