We already saw Coolio do that with multiple pop hits
So you can't really say there was a disconnect,these are classic records in hiphop. Plus there is still a disconnect with classical music as there should be, unless you are counting rappers using live bands,and thats not because of 3-6. Plus the most important point is the fact their impact on modern day music is overstated. Not to mention they are considered thieves and ripoff artist,even worse than Dr Dre. The credit they are given should be kept light,and in perspective of that.
i replied and lost the reply when my phone died.
So sorry for any lost content and fluidity to try to recreate my response. Where it indepthly answers you post.
yet in that reply i explain the timeline culturally you missed.
From the horrorcore Mecca based beginnings. To the culturally taboo base ideal of esham to natas. Plus how that entire sector which includes. What would become the double time gangsta rap ruthless style submissions. That would power the mainstream explosion of bone. While culturally and dually the impact of who the fellowship was culturally in a mainstream sense was squelched. As well.
To even associate coolio with a cultural submission for those records. That I know you are in error as coolio was viewed as done culturally with those submission. After he sold out from the original wc era coolio.
Not to mention,...
If orchestra based rap was culturally endorsed for coolio.
Ras kass, would have resonated culturally when he used the been there done that opera sample with dre as well.
Plus, would have metriculated over to coolio and him from Miami life. Yet ras kass is viewed as selling out for using the dre, been there done that sample. Which easily put ras in the cultural doghouse on rassassination. Which ras is not properly credited for. When it comes to his style of the mix tape to return from the depths of sellout cultural admin hell.
I wish I had the original post to this.
Yet you are in error to say coolio is credited culturally for sampling opera based records as a credible culture submission. When he was viewed completely.
as a sellout pop artist in that exact era and time after the wc era coolio.
Not to mention even dre is not credited with been there done that as a sample based submission.
It would not be till after mood's hi Tec and his submission were used by west coast aftermath accepted cultural legacy artist by way of Eminem to dre.
Would this whole neo soul aftermath legacy sound arise as well.
Where now classical music is somehow accepted as this cultural production sample submission base for hip hop. As aftermath has latched onto.
being basically a neo soul legacy label at this point. Which extends from the hi Tec west coast artist production. Where it meets interpolated biter jay dee of filtered bass line chops and sampling as well. In the same vein as neo soul went into from the kedar slash chico slash deangleo/angie stone meddling meets erykah production style.
to jay Dee's sonic style submissions.
also being logged into the lexicon of what neo soul, "should sound like".
Before that,...
Especially when coolio dropped.
Coolio was not viewed as culturally endorsed artist.
Gangsta paradise, fantastic voyage and even county line never were spun at culture based parties. If a DJ did that back then in a. Culture based setting. That DJ would have been treated as though he played the perculator in a culture based setting.
The whole idea of classically trained sample Submission being indoctrinated culturally. Did not begin till well and away after the whole try to get jiggy over era in the 2000's.
Art Barr
Yes he is, one of the baddest dudes on the keys ever. His compositions are right there as well. He ventured away on his later albums but he always had some jazz laid out on his solo and soundtrack records.
im not saying Isaac's jazz catalog is equal, but more so he was equal in ability/talent. Quincy had at least a 12 year start on dude. By time Isaac got going cats didnt really need jazz to get a rep like that, i feel if he was around back then he would've been doing similar material eventually migrating to the popular stuff he's known for. A lot of cats dont even know Isaac was a jazz head.
