The Most Honorable Tariq Nasheed at the California Reparations Hearing

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Has daddy Tariq addressed his governor basically

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The whole movement over there?
 

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there were slave revolts before and after the revolution

Which happened in 1804, emancipation happened much later. How exactly do we have to thank you for our freedom.

Since then you can combine that with the civil rights movement. Which is much more pertinent than any of that

"MY POLITICAL REVOLUTION WAS BETTER THAN YOUR POLITICAL REVOLUTION!!!" :damn:

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1) I don't think this we were the first narrative get's us anywhere as we people.
2) I decided to look up where the first recorded slave revolt actually happened.
3) It doesn't negate that the reparations claim in North America should be specifically for Black Americans as the descendants of Freedmen. Because that is politically the lineage we are talking about.



Secondly, it's a historical fact that Haiti became the first free State for former enslaved people.

TITLE I
Of the Territory
Art. 1. – Saint-Domingue in its entire expanse, and Samana, La Tortue, La Gonave, Les Cayemites, L'Ile-a-Vache, La Saone and other adjacent islands form the territory of a single colony, which is part of the French Empire, but ruled under particular laws.
Art. 2. – The territory of this colony is divided in departments, arrondissements (districts) and parishes.

TITLE II
Of the Inhabitants
Art. 3. - There cannot exist slaves on this territory, servitude is therein forever abolished. All men are born, live and die free and French.
Art. 4. – All men, regardless of color, are eligible to all employment.
Art. 5. – There shall exist no distinction other than those based on virtue and talent, and other
superiority afforded by law in the exercise of a public function. The law is the same for all whether in punishment or in protection.

Haitian Constitution of 1801

"Here, the autonomist desires of the whites emerged most prominently, as it complemented Louverture’s desire to maintain his power in the colony. Title 2, Article 3 stated, “There can be no slaves in this territory; servitude is abolished within it forever. All men who are born here live and die free and French.” Responding to the trauma of centuries of slavery, the Constitution clearly maintained abolition, but associated its achievement with France."
[...]
"Interpretations of memory were central in the development of Haitian autonomy, independence, and government – as illustrated in the Constitution of the French Colony of Saint-Domingue of 1801, the Declaration of Haitian Independence in 1804, and the Haitian Constitution of 1805. Recently, scholars have sought to correct the historiography's “forgetting” of the Haitian Revolution in broader contexts, emphasizing the significance of remembering the Haitian Revolution in the histories of France, the Atlantic, and the world.[1]Even though historians have begun to rewrite the Haitian Revolution back into historiographical prominence, they have largely overlooked how early Haitians managed, altered, and fought over their own historical and racial identities."


"On January 14, 1804, only days after declaring Haiti’s independence, revolutionary leader Jean-Jacques Dessalines issued an executive act offering 40 piasters (U.S. $40) per returnee to any ship captain who would repatriate Haiti’s enslaved people and the formerly enslaved who had fled during the revolutionary conflicts. Haiti’s population had been decimated by the conflicts, and to replenish it he tried to recruit 500,000 Africans, indigenous people, and U.S. Blacks, offering them not only freedom but immediate citizenship once they set foot on Haitian soil, provided they first declare themselves Black. Soon after the publication of Dessalines’s decree, many responded to his offer."


Nobody at the time was on the segment and competition with each other. They all worked together to get out of the enslaved condition. In 2023 we have negroes fighting each other over, we did so and so first. Yet we as a people hold no power! At least not the power we should have!

Here are some papers, so you can educate yourself.

"The roots of white supremacy lie in the institution of negro slavery. From the 15th through the 19th century, white Europeans trafficked in abducted and enslaved Africans and justified the practice with excuses that seemed somehow to reconcile the injustice with their professed Christianity. The United States was neither the first nor the last nation to abolish slavery, but its proclaimed principles of freedom and equality were made ironic by the nation’s reluctance to extend recognition to all Americans."
(Lydia Maria Child, An Appeal in Favor of That Class of Americans Called Africans)

"Sometime in 1519, the Taíno cacique, an indigenous leader, known to the Spanish as Enriquillo joined with a small group of supporters and fled to the Bahoruco Mountains in Quisqueya, the island which now consists of the Dominican Republic and Haiti. Roughly two years later, on December 26, 1521, approximately twenty Wolof people, enslaved by the governor of the Spanish colony of Hispaniola, Diego Colón, near the Nigua River, rose up in revolt against their bondage and killed a number of Spanish men. Now, just over five hundred years after the daring rebellion of those enslaved Africans, a reckoning with historical interpretations that have divided these two acts of anti-colonial resistance along racialized lines is past due.

This paper uses a combination of primary source analysis, with special emphasis placed on the presence of racialized terms, and historiographical review of secondary analyses of the rebellions to seek an understanding of how and why the revolts have been treated by some historians as distinct, unrelated events.

This paper argues that the racial composition, or at least the perceived racial composition, of the revolts affected the magnitude and brutality of the respective Spanish responses, shapes the historiography of these uprisings, and complicates our understanding of marronage in colonial Spanish societies. Further, over-reliance on imperial chronicles and misapplication of modern racial categories to sixteenth century thinking has inaccurately shaped historical interpretations of the revolts."

(Ben Schachter Written for Black and Indigenous Political Mobilization in the Americas (HIST 478))


Thanks for wasting your time teaching bigots that don’t wanna be taught. I’m happy you’re knowledgeable about it. Actually we had several other revolts in Santo Domingo but I was setting them up only to show them they’re not knowledgeable about the topic. They only know the surface. Just like their master leader Tariq.
 

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Thanks for wasting your time teaching bigots that don’t wanna be taught. I’m happy you’re knowledgeable about it. Actually we had several other revolts in Santo Domingo but I was setting them up only to show them they’re not knowledgeable about the topic.
Cool, I’m not aware of the other revolts. Are these prior to what I have been able to find? I didn’t dig deep, it was basically the first search first hit and that is what I posted.

I don’t think I wasted my time, because people who read the content still got to learn about this part of history.

They only know the surface. Just like their master leader Tariq.
I agree with the surface level thinking. Tariq only reached 9th grade, so one can’t really blame him for dropping the ball.

A lot of people underestimate the importance of formal education. This is where one learn basic skills, or the foundation (no pun intended) if you will.
 
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Thanks for wasting your time teaching bigots that don’t wanna be taught. I’m happy you’re knowledgeable about it. Actually we had several other revolts in Santo Domingo but I was setting them up only to show them they’re not knowledgeable about the topic. They only know the surface. Just like their master leader Tariq.
You had no problem rushing in here, telling us we needed to "thank" Haitians for our freedom :gucci:

this the shyt im taking about
 

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"MY POLITICAL REVOLUTION WAS BETTER THAN YOUR POLITICAL REVOLUTION!!!" :damn:

nikka misses high school bad.
resident plantation enforcer making sure american negros stay in their place-has arrived.

dodo bird ass nikka conveniently missed where dude said we had to thank them for their freedom

but u do this in literally every thread. Keep up the good work
 

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You had no problem rushing in here, telling us we needed to "thank" Haitians for our freedom :gucci:

this the shyt im taking about

Stop being a bytch. What did I respond to ? I respond to you saying I’m here because of this and that so I returned the favor. You’re a fukking bigot and I will treat you like one.

Stop wasting your time and go be productive negga.

Now come back and quote me again and get aired
 

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Stop being a bytch. What did I respond to ? I respond to you saying I’m here because of this and that so I returned the favor. You’re a fukking bigot and I will treat you like one.

Stop wasting your time and go be productive negga.

Now come back and quote me again and get aired
Aired on what?
What I said was accurate, yours wasn’t. And a tired talking point people like you try to put up for some type of “collateral” against FBA’s As if we don’t have stacks on stacks of things we’ve done for your people

And some of the things you’ve said about black Americans, I’ve never came close to saying about haitians
 

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You had no problem rushing in here, telling us we needed to "thank" Haitians for our freedom :gucci:

this the shyt im taking about

It’s getting interesting. What can you tell us about maroon populations in the Americas?
 

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Aired on what?
What I said was accurate, yours wasn’t. And a tired talking point people like you try to put up for some type of “collateral” against FBA’s As if we don’t have stacks on stacks of things we’ve done for your people

And some of the things you’ve said about black Americans, I’ve never came close to saying about haitians
I often heard this argument, which is true. But what have you done, you personally?
 

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Aired on what?
What I said was accurate, yours wasn’t. And a tired talking point people like you try to put up for some type of “collateral” against FBA’s As if we don’t have stacks on stacks of things we’ve done for your people

And some of the things you’ve said about black Americans, I’ve never came close to saying about haitians
That nikka is a super c00n idky you wasting your time :dead:
 

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What have I done personally to free the slaves? Civil rights?

If I told u I mentor inner city youth that makes my argument more valid
Did you refer to slaves and slavery, or another period of American history?

I interpreted your argument as something of recent times. That’s why I asked you what have you done personally, as you mentioned “we”:
 

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Did you refer to slaves and slavery, or another period of American history?

I interpreted your argument as something of recent times. That’s why I asked you what have you done personally, as you mentioned “we”:
All of it

“We” in reference to an ethnic group or country is routinely used. Let’s not make up new rules for the sake of this conversation
 
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