The Most Honorable Tariq Nasheed at the California Reparations Hearing

[K.O.N.Y]

Breh on what planet is being boastfully ignorant of a years worth of developments is "standing on our square"??? I don't even think YOU know what you're talking about at this point, just tryna cope

breh your obsession with tariq, the person, is making this harder for you then it needs to be

Again, if someone wanted to use lineage based as a disclaimer before making or saying any point, its in there jurisdiction to do so

its not a point of contention

we live in a country that likes to "blanket" everything we do. We get things by way of doing things for "people of color" You dont think that point needs to be hammered down on lol

 

[Bunchy Carter]

This dusty foot fleeing international citizen goes straight to welfare jokes about Black Americans. When we hit back below the belt the mods bytch up and start to bench folks and lock down threads.

The same ones on here talking down on reparations are the same ones who tried to get me banned all the time.

I had to bookmark this by @#1 pick because it was funny. He even reach out to Brook lol and @LeVraiPapi and others always report me lol:

@Houston911 @Brooklynzson

This nikka trolling from the comfort of his place while mfer really going through it on some trolling shyt. Ban this bytch ass nikka

 

[Buddy]

breh your obsession with tariq, the person, is making this harder for you then it needs to be

Again, if someone wanted to use lineage based as a disclaimer before making or saying any point, its in there jurisdiction to do so

its not a point of contention

we live in a country that likes to "blanket" everything we do. We get things by way of doing things for "people of color" You dont think that point needs to be hammered down on lol

It'd be the exact same response if anybody else went up and told them they need to do what they already did a year ago. And lineage based reparations was not a "disclaimer", it was the entire purpose of him going up to speak.

He can and anybody else kick that shyt to yall uninformed muhfukkas all day but once you stand in front of a government hearing--after the fact-- then you've officially put YOUR incompetence on public record and Imma roast you accordingly

You such a damn fanboy, he coulda went up there and said the reparations need to be in California only cause their governor signed off and you'd still be coppin pleas... "bbbut its good to reiterate"

 

[K.O.N.Y]

It'd be the exact same response if anybody else went up and told them they need to do what they already did a year ago. And lineage based reparations was not a "disclaimer", it was the entire purpose of him going up to speak.

He can and anybody else kick that shyt to yall uninformed muhfukkas all day but once you stand in front of a government hearing--after the fact-- then you've officially put YOUR incompetence on public record and Imma roast you accordingly

You such a damn fanboy, he coulda went up there and said the reparations need to be in California only cause their governor signed off and you'd still be coppin pleas... "bbbut its good to reiterate"

i think the greater point Is that reparations in california or anywhere else needs to be lineage based. And that fact needs to be drilled in regardless. As an actual black american its non sensical to make this a problem, which is the point. There's absolutely nothing to "roast" about that, unless your reaching. If someone wants to point that out, than just let them its not a real problem

 

[LeVraiPapi]

The same ones on here talking down on reparations are the same ones who tried to get me banned all the time.

I had to bookmark this by @#1 pick because it was funny. He even reach out to Brook lol and @LeVraiPapi and others always report me lol:

You have said much much worse than that

 

[LeVraiPapi]

we had 300+ slave revolts

the civil war and the seminole wars

she and @LeVraiPapi are benefitting off that work ,not the Haitian revolution

I benefited from my country being the first black republic that pushed their white oppressors. Just like you and any other black benefited from it since it inspired your ancestors.

If it wasn’t for my Haitian ancestors, you wouldn’t have freedom. We have statues in several parts of the USA. We are recognized for our contribution. You’re welcome

 

[K.O.N.Y]

I benefited from my country being the first black republic that pushed their white oppressors. Just like you and any other black benefited from it since it inspired your ancestors.

If it wasn’t for my Haitian ancestors, you wouldn’t have freedom. We have statues in several parts of the USA. We are recognized for our contribution. You’re welcome

there were slave revolts before and after the revolution

Which happened in 1804, emancipation happened much later. How exactly do we have to thank you for our freedom.

Since then you can combine that with the civil rights movement. Which is much more pertinent than any of that

 

[Bunchy Carter]

there were slave revolts before and after the revolution

Which happened in 1804, emancipation happened much later. How exactly do we have to thank you for our freedom.

Since then you can combine that with the civil rights movement. Which is much more pertinent than any of that

In 1527 Foundational Black Americans had the successful slave revolt in South Carolina:

San Miguel de Gualdape Slave Rebellion (1526) •

San Miguel de Gualdape is a former Spanish colony founded in 1526 by Lucas Vazquez de Ayllon. It was the third settlement in North America north of Mexico. In the early 1500s, Spaniards were conducting expeditions to the area now known as South Carolina and … Read MoreSan Miguel de Gualdape...

www.blackpast.org

In 1800 a Foundational Black American Gabriel led Gabriel's Rebellion, but some c00n sambos messed everything up

Gabriel's Rebellion - Henrico County, Virginia

In the early 19th century, most Henricoans made their living by farming and related industries, such as milling. Coal mining was also important, especially in northern and western Henrico. The princip

henrico.us

It's sounds like the Haitians got it from us.......Damn it feels good to be a Foundational Black American

:

 

[Buddy]

i think the greater point Is that reparations in california or anywhere else needs to be lineage based. And that fact needs to be drilled in regardless. As an actual black american its non sensical to make this a problem, which is the point. There's absolutely nothing to "roast" about that, unless your reaching. If someone wants to point that out, than just let them its not a real problem

i think the greater point is, this shyt was vital to ya'll. and a year and some change later, the man had no idea. i haven't spoken against lineage based reparations in this thread or anywhere else for that matter. that's not the issue but you know that, so stop trying.

ya'll are following someone who didn't have the intellectual fortitude to complete high school. didn't have the intellectual fortitude to brush up even a little before he made a fool outta himself. mister "tangibles" himself. that is not the kinda person you wanna see on public record for this. you'll literally find yourself learning shyt you "care" about a year later

 

[K.O.N.Y]

i think the greater point is, this shyt was vital to ya'll. and a year and some change later, the man had no idea. i haven't spoken against lineage based reparations in this thread or anywhere else for that matter. that's not the issue but you know that, so stop trying.

ya'll are following someone who didn't have the intellectual fortitude to complete high school. didn't have the intellectual fortitude to brush up even a little before he made a fool outta himself. mister "tangibles" himself. that is not the kinda person you wanna see on public record for this. you'll literally find yourself learning shyt you "care" about a year late

breh your just saying anything at this point. Just mindless babble

there was nothing wrong with his testimony. Thats just the end of it .No one is interpreting this as someone "making a fool" out of themselves

the reaching is embarrassing.

none of this post makes any sense whatsoever.

 

[Buddy]

breh your just saying anything at this point. Just mindless babble

there was nothing wrong with his testimony. Thats just the end of it .No one is interpreting this as someone "making a fool" out of themselves

the reaching is embarrassing.

none of this post makes any sense whatsoever.

you're welcome

 

[Ish Gibor]

breh your obsession with tariq, the person, is making this harder for you then it needs to be

Again, if someone wanted to use lineage based as a disclaimer before making or saying any point, its in there jurisdiction to do so

its not a point of contention

we live in a country that likes to "blanket" everything we do. We get things by way of doing things for "people of color" You dont think that point needs to be hammered down on lol

It'd be the exact same response if anybody else went up and told them they need to do what they already did a year ago. And lineage based reparations was not a "disclaimer", it was the entire purpose of him going up to speak.

He can and anybody else kick that shyt to yall uninformed muhfukkas all day but once you stand in front of a government hearing--after the fact-- then you've officially put YOUR incompetence on public record and Imma roast you accordingly

You such a damn fanboy, he coulda went up there and said the reparations need to be in California only cause their governor signed off and you'd still be coppin pleas... "bbbut its good to reiterate"

The lineage based argument didn't originate with Tariq. It was already the argument used by The Racial and Identity Profiling Advisory Board. It just so happens to be that Tariq decided to go there that particular day and spoke on this matter giving his point of view. The Racial and Identity Profiling Advisory Board has been on this for many years. Also, Tariq is not beyond criticism.

May 6, 2023 - Reparations Task Force Meeting.

As part of California’s ongoing efforts under Assembly Bill 3121 (AB 3121), the Task Force to Study and Develop Reparations Proposals for African Americans holds a public meeting on May 6, 2023, in Oakland.

 

[Ish Gibor]

In 1527 Foundational Black Americans had the successful slave revolt in South Carolina:

San Miguel de Gualdape Slave Rebellion (1526) •

San Miguel de Gualdape is a former Spanish colony founded in 1526 by Lucas Vazquez de Ayllon. It was the third settlement in North America north of Mexico. In the early 1500s, Spaniards were conducting expeditions to the area now known as South Carolina and … Read MoreSan Miguel de Gualdape...

www.blackpast.org

In 1800 a Foundational Black American Gabriel led Gabriel's Rebellion, but some c00n sambos messed everything up

Gabriel's Rebellion - Henrico County, Virginia

In the early 19th century, most Henricoans made their living by farming and related industries, such as milling. Coal mining was also important, especially in northern and western Henrico. The princip

henrico.us

It's sounds like the Haitians got it from us.......Damn it feels good to be a Foundational Black American

:

1) I don't think this we were the first narrative get's us anywhere as a people.
2) I decided to look up where the first recorded slave revolt actually happened.
3) It doesn't negate that the reparations claim in North America should be specifically for Black Americans as the descendants of Freedmen. Because that is politically the lineage we are talking about.

The 1521 Santo Domingo Slave Revolt •

The 1521 Santo Domingo Slave Revolt occurred in the Spanish colony of Santo Domingo on the island of Hispaniola during that year’s Christmas festivities. It is the earliest recorded slave revolt in the Americas. Just days after the revolt occurred, a new set of laws … Read MoreThe 1521 Santo...

www.blackpast.org

America's First Slave Revolt: Indians and African Slaves in Española, 1500–1534

On Christmas Day 1521, in the Spanish colony of Santo Domingo, the first recorded slave revolt in the Americas occurred. A group of African, likely Wolof, slaves came together with native Indians led by the Taíno cacique Enriquillo to assert their independence. Beyond being the first slave...

read.dukeupress.edu

Secondly, it's a historical fact that Haiti became the first free State for former enslaved people.

TITLE I
Of the Territory
Art. 1. – Saint-Domingue in its entire expanse, and Samana, La Tortue, La Gonave, Les Cayemites, L'Ile-a-Vache, La Saone and other adjacent islands form the territory of a single colony, which is part of the French Empire, but ruled under particular laws.
Art. 2. – The territory of this colony is divided in departments, arrondissements (districts) and parishes.

TITLE II
Of the Inhabitants
Art. 3. - There cannot exist slaves on this territory, servitude is therein forever abolished. All men are born, live and die free and French.
Art. 4. – All men, regardless of color, are eligible to all employment.
Art. 5. – There shall exist no distinction other than those based on virtue and talent, and other
superiority afforded by law in the exercise of a public function. The law is the same for all whether in punishment or in protection.
Haitian Constitution of 1801

"Here, the autonomist desires of the whites emerged most prominently, as it complemented Louverture’s desire to maintain his power in the colony. Title 2, Article 3 stated, “There can be no slaves in this territory; servitude is abolished within it forever. All men who are born here live and die free and French.” Responding to the trauma of centuries of slavery, the Constitution clearly maintained abolition, but associated its achievement with France."
[...]
"Interpretations of memory were central in the development of Haitian autonomy, independence, and government – as illustrated in the Constitution of the French Colony of Saint-Domingue of 1801, the Declaration of Haitian Independence in 1804, and the Haitian Constitution of 1805. Recently, scholars have sought to correct the historiography's “forgetting” of the Haitian Revolution in broader contexts, emphasizing the significance of remembering the Haitian Revolution in the histories of France, the Atlantic, and the world.[1]Even though historians have begun to rewrite the Haitian Revolution back into historiographical prominence, they have largely overlooked how early Haitians managed, altered, and fought over their own historical and racial identities."

Memories of the Old Regime in the Foundation of Haiti

"On January 14, 1804, only days after declaring Haiti’s independence, revolutionary leader Jean-Jacques Dessalines issued an executive act offering 40 piasters (U.S. $40) per returnee to any ship captain who would repatriate Haiti’s enslaved people and the formerly enslaved who had fled during the revolutionary conflicts. Haiti’s population had been decimated by the conflicts, and to replenish it he tried to recruit 500,000 Africans, indigenous people, and U.S. Blacks, offering them not only freedom but immediate citizenship once they set foot on Haitian soil, provided they first declare themselves Black. Soon after the publication of Dessalines’s decree, many responded to his offer."

Haiti’s Painful Evolution from Promised Land to Migrant-Sending Nation

For more than a century, Haiti was considered a prime destination for migrants from the United States and around the world. In the wake of the Haitian Revolution, Haiti marketed itself to freed slaves and others as an island haven where they could break free from the strictures of the United...

www.migrationpolicy.org

Nobody at the time was on the segment and competition with each other. They all worked together to get out of the enslaved condition. In 2023 we have negroes fighting each other over, we did so and so first. Yet we as a people hold no power! At least not the power we should have!

Here are some papers, so you can educate yourself.

"The roots of white supremacy lie in the institution of negro slavery. From the 15th through the 19th century, white Europeans trafficked in abducted and enslaved Africans and justified the practice with excuses that seemed somehow to reconcile the injustice with their professed Christianity. The United States was neither the first nor the last nation to abolish slavery, but its proclaimed principles of freedom and equality were made ironic by the nation’s reluctance to extend recognition to all Americans."
(Lydia Maria Child, An Appeal in Favor of That Class of Americans Called Africans)

An Appeal in Favor of That Class of Americans Called Africans

The roots of white supremacy lie in the institution of negro slavery. From the 15th through the 19th century, white Europeans trafficked in abducted and enslaved Africans and justified the practice with excuses that seemed somehow to reconcile the injustice with their professed Christianity. The...

digitalcommons.unl.edu

"Sometime in 1519, the Taíno cacique, an indigenous leader, known to the Spanish as Enriquillo joined with a small group of supporters and fled to the Bahoruco Mountains in Quisqueya, the island which now consists of the Dominican Republic and Haiti. Roughly two years later, on December 26, 1521, approximately twenty Wolof people, enslaved by the governor of the Spanish colony of Hispaniola, Diego Colón, near the Nigua River, rose up in revolt against their bondage and killed a number of Spanish men. Now, just over five hundred years after the daring rebellion of those enslaved Africans, a reckoning with historical interpretations that have divided these two acts of anti-colonial resistance along racialized lines is past due.

This paper uses a combination of primary source analysis, with special emphasis placed on the presence of racialized terms, and historiographical review of secondary analyses of the rebellions to seek an understanding of how and why the revolts have been treated by some historians as distinct, unrelated events.

This paper argues that the racial composition, or at least the perceived racial composition, of the revolts affected the magnitude and brutality of the respective Spanish responses, shapes the historiography of these uprisings, and complicates our understanding of marronage in colonial Spanish societies. Further, over-reliance on imperial chronicles and misapplication of modern racial categories to sixteenth century thinking has inaccurately shaped historical interpretations of the revolts."

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scholarship.rice.edu

(Ben Schachter Written for Black and Indigenous Political Mobilization in the Americas (HIST 478))

https://scholarship.rice.edu/bitstream/handle/1911/112438/Rebels-in-the-Caribbean.pdf

 

[Bunchy Carter]

 

[Bunchy Carter]