Watch this go up to the Supreme Court and get rejectedIf and when it does go to a vote.
It won’t get passed.
/thread
The Most Honorable Tariq Nasheed at the California Reparations Hearing
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K.O.N.Y
Superstar
As fbas we have alot of stevens in our circleI said before, there are a lot of FBAs that ain't down with the anti-black immigrant stances.
I'm all for reparations for FBAs, just not with the black immigrant bashing that doesn't involve c00ning. have alot of stevens in our circle
negros who were happy just being "regular black" or just generic black american.Didnt really look at life through an ethnic lineage based perspective
These people feel stupid when we stand on our square culturally and unapologetic about it. Thats people like @Buddy and @SupaDupaCool
Nothing tariq said was an ACTUAL problem
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K.O.N.Y
Superstar
we had 300+ slave revolts
the civil war and the seminole wars
she and @LeVraiPapi are benefitting off that work ,not the Haitian revolution
the civil war and the seminole wars
she and @LeVraiPapi are benefitting off that work ,not the Haitian revolution
Tariq is right about the slave history in California. I happen to have found an article on this where a research team investigated this early this century. I did look this up after Brandon (Boochie Bear) claimed that it’s fake history made up by Tariq.
Brandon also claimed that whites who didn’t own slaves directly, those descendants aren’t responsible for anything. This of course is rubbish, because they have benefited from the Homestead Act and Headright system (and all these places are mostly the red states now!), as well as the Jim Crow system and black people being mass incarcerated (racial profiling).
I did post this on his channel, to make him aware of his historical flaws.
Feb. 12, 2004, 4:49 PM EST
Californians like to think of their state as a freewheeling, tolerant place, one that entered the Union back in 1850 unbesmirched by the stain of slavery.
But Joe Moore says there’s just one problem with that sunny vision of the past — it isn’t true. Though it was admitted to the Union as a “free state,” slavery still existed in 1850s California, and Moore is leading a project to shed light on its contradictory history.
His proof is in print: in an 1852 ad announcing the public auction of a black man valued at $300; newspaper accounts of fugitive slaves who were arrested; and, county records certifying slaves bought their freedom from their owners.
Moore and a team of researchers have uncovered these and other, often overlooked pieces of California’s past after months of digging through the archives of museums, historical societies and libraries across the state.
America's lost story
“We believe this is one of America’s lost stories,” said Guy Washington, regional coordinator for the National Underground Railroad Network to Freedom project, who has worked closely with Moore.
“It doesn’t fit our image of California as the land of freedom and opportunity, a place where everyone can go and have a new start. We’re not comfortable with that part of our history,” he said.
Moore and researchers at California State University, Sacramento have been converting the documents into digital files, and plan to post them on the Internet at next week. When completed, the new online archive will provide insight into the challenges blacks faced in California of the 1800s.
“The story that’s being told is the diversity and richness and the determination of a small community in the 19th century,” said Shirley Ann Wilson Moore, a history professor at Sacramento State who is supervising student researchers and is married to Joe Moore.
After gold was discovered near Sutter’s Fort in 1848, blacks joined a stampede of others migrating West, hoping to strike it rich.
For those early black pioneers, the state’s policies appeared promising. California’s first constitution, adopted in 1849, dictated that: “Neither slavery, nor involuntary servitude, unless for the punishment of crimes, shall ever be tolerated in this State.” A year later, under the Compromise of 1850, California was admitted to the Union as a free state.
For blacks and others, California was “a place to come and reinvent themselves,” Shirley Moore said. “For African-Americans, California represented a place where, at least legally, slavery did not exist.”
But many found California a far cry from the land of opportunity they’d envisioned. Officials were unwilling to challenge slaveholders who brought slaves into the state. And other laws, such as one allowing people to bring slaves into the state if they stayed only temporarily, undermined the constitution, Shirley Moore said.
Using high-tech tools
Thorny issues were often determined individually, through court cases like that of Archy Lee, a slave brought to Sacramento from Mississippi in 1857. Lee’s owner decided to send him back to the South, but Lee disappeared, according to an 1858 article in the Sacramento Daily Union.
Lee was captured, and his cause adopted by abolitionists as a test case for the rights of blacks in the state. They raised money for Lee’s legal defense and eventually he was released.
The tale of Lee and others will be included in the digital archive through letters, family documents, court records, songs and photographs. Researchers have identified about 800 documents, though not all will go online at first.
To collect the 19th century stories, researchers are using high-tech tools. Armed with laptops and flatbed scanners, they’ve traveled to some smaller institutions that have been reluctant to let old, fragile documents out of their sight.
Many of the first documents included in the archive will be newspaper articles.
One, from an 1852 edition of the San Francisco Herald, announces a “Negro For Sale ... I will sell at Public Auction a Negro Man,” the ad placed by B.G. Lathrop says, adding that the price is $300. Lathrop tells abolitionists he will accept $100 from them — “a great sacrifice in the value of the property” — to see whether they will pay or “play their old game, and try to steal him.”
The articles also depict the struggles of slaves who tried to escape. One Sacramento Union report from 1861 tells of a black man arrested as a slave and brought to the city “in irons.”
Stories of individual families
Another in the 1854 Sacramento Union asks readers to contact O.R. Rozier, whose slave, Stephen, escaped from a steamer ship en route to Arkansas.
The Moores also want to tell the stories of individual families, through documents provided by people such as Celeste Rountree. Rountree’s ancestor, Alvin Coffey, earned $7,000 in the mines and used it to buy his wife and two daughters’ freedom, as well as his own.
“When I think of his story, I think if you put your mind to it there’s nothing you can’t accomplish,” said Rountree, who lives in Vallejo, Calif. “Here he is a slave, working to buy his freedom, and he made it happen just on sheer willpower and determination.”
For Joe Moore, a retired photographer, the project is the result of a lifelong interest in blacks in the West, nurtured by weekend visits to the gold fields.
The debate over California’s admission to the Union as a free state “makes the story more fascinating,” said Moore, sitting in his Sacramento office, where black-and-white portraits of early black pioneers hang on the walls. “Once you start getting into it, you become hooked into wanting to find out more about the people and the events.
California State Librarian Kevin Starr agreed, and the project received a $132,000 grant administered by the state library.
Moore hopes the archive will become part of the Underground Railroad Network to Freedom, a National Park Service program established by a 1998 law to tell the story of slaves who tried to escape and those who helped them.
As word of it spreads, Moore hopes others will come forward and share family documents that are now in basements, attics and garages. At a conference on the project last year, Starr called it an attempt to “excavate the past and pay attention to it.”
“We can glory in the diversity” of California, Starr said. But “we’ve got some painful things to talk about. This ’From Slavery to Freedom’ project is going to deal with some of those things.”
www.nbcnews.com
Brandon also claimed that whites who didn’t own slaves directly, those descendants aren’t responsible for anything. This of course is rubbish, because they have benefited from the Homestead Act and Headright system (and all these places are mostly the red states now!), as well as the Jim Crow system and black people being mass incarcerated (racial profiling).
I did post this on his channel, to make him aware of his historical flaws.
Uncovering California’s overlooked slave past
Though California was admitted to the Union as a “free state,” slavery still existed there in 1850s.
By Deborah KongFeb. 12, 2004, 4:49 PM EST
Californians like to think of their state as a freewheeling, tolerant place, one that entered the Union back in 1850 unbesmirched by the stain of slavery.
But Joe Moore says there’s just one problem with that sunny vision of the past — it isn’t true. Though it was admitted to the Union as a “free state,” slavery still existed in 1850s California, and Moore is leading a project to shed light on its contradictory history.
His proof is in print: in an 1852 ad announcing the public auction of a black man valued at $300; newspaper accounts of fugitive slaves who were arrested; and, county records certifying slaves bought their freedom from their owners.
Moore and a team of researchers have uncovered these and other, often overlooked pieces of California’s past after months of digging through the archives of museums, historical societies and libraries across the state.
America's lost story
“We believe this is one of America’s lost stories,” said Guy Washington, regional coordinator for the National Underground Railroad Network to Freedom project, who has worked closely with Moore.
“It doesn’t fit our image of California as the land of freedom and opportunity, a place where everyone can go and have a new start. We’re not comfortable with that part of our history,” he said.
Moore and researchers at California State University, Sacramento have been converting the documents into digital files, and plan to post them on the Internet at next week. When completed, the new online archive will provide insight into the challenges blacks faced in California of the 1800s.
“The story that’s being told is the diversity and richness and the determination of a small community in the 19th century,” said Shirley Ann Wilson Moore, a history professor at Sacramento State who is supervising student researchers and is married to Joe Moore.
After gold was discovered near Sutter’s Fort in 1848, blacks joined a stampede of others migrating West, hoping to strike it rich.
For those early black pioneers, the state’s policies appeared promising. California’s first constitution, adopted in 1849, dictated that: “Neither slavery, nor involuntary servitude, unless for the punishment of crimes, shall ever be tolerated in this State.” A year later, under the Compromise of 1850, California was admitted to the Union as a free state.
For blacks and others, California was “a place to come and reinvent themselves,” Shirley Moore said. “For African-Americans, California represented a place where, at least legally, slavery did not exist.”
But many found California a far cry from the land of opportunity they’d envisioned. Officials were unwilling to challenge slaveholders who brought slaves into the state. And other laws, such as one allowing people to bring slaves into the state if they stayed only temporarily, undermined the constitution, Shirley Moore said.
Using high-tech tools
Thorny issues were often determined individually, through court cases like that of Archy Lee, a slave brought to Sacramento from Mississippi in 1857. Lee’s owner decided to send him back to the South, but Lee disappeared, according to an 1858 article in the Sacramento Daily Union.
Lee was captured, and his cause adopted by abolitionists as a test case for the rights of blacks in the state. They raised money for Lee’s legal defense and eventually he was released.
The tale of Lee and others will be included in the digital archive through letters, family documents, court records, songs and photographs. Researchers have identified about 800 documents, though not all will go online at first.
To collect the 19th century stories, researchers are using high-tech tools. Armed with laptops and flatbed scanners, they’ve traveled to some smaller institutions that have been reluctant to let old, fragile documents out of their sight.
Many of the first documents included in the archive will be newspaper articles.
One, from an 1852 edition of the San Francisco Herald, announces a “Negro For Sale ... I will sell at Public Auction a Negro Man,” the ad placed by B.G. Lathrop says, adding that the price is $300. Lathrop tells abolitionists he will accept $100 from them — “a great sacrifice in the value of the property” — to see whether they will pay or “play their old game, and try to steal him.”
The articles also depict the struggles of slaves who tried to escape. One Sacramento Union report from 1861 tells of a black man arrested as a slave and brought to the city “in irons.”
Stories of individual families
Another in the 1854 Sacramento Union asks readers to contact O.R. Rozier, whose slave, Stephen, escaped from a steamer ship en route to Arkansas.
The Moores also want to tell the stories of individual families, through documents provided by people such as Celeste Rountree. Rountree’s ancestor, Alvin Coffey, earned $7,000 in the mines and used it to buy his wife and two daughters’ freedom, as well as his own.
“When I think of his story, I think if you put your mind to it there’s nothing you can’t accomplish,” said Rountree, who lives in Vallejo, Calif. “Here he is a slave, working to buy his freedom, and he made it happen just on sheer willpower and determination.”
For Joe Moore, a retired photographer, the project is the result of a lifelong interest in blacks in the West, nurtured by weekend visits to the gold fields.
The debate over California’s admission to the Union as a free state “makes the story more fascinating,” said Moore, sitting in his Sacramento office, where black-and-white portraits of early black pioneers hang on the walls. “Once you start getting into it, you become hooked into wanting to find out more about the people and the events.
California State Librarian Kevin Starr agreed, and the project received a $132,000 grant administered by the state library.
Moore hopes the archive will become part of the Underground Railroad Network to Freedom, a National Park Service program established by a 1998 law to tell the story of slaves who tried to escape and those who helped them.
As word of it spreads, Moore hopes others will come forward and share family documents that are now in basements, attics and garages. At a conference on the project last year, Starr called it an attempt to “excavate the past and pay attention to it.”
“We can glory in the diversity” of California, Starr said. But “we’ve got some painful things to talk about. This ’From Slavery to Freedom’ project is going to deal with some of those things.”
Uncovering California’s overlooked slave past
Though California was admitted to the Union as a “free state,” slavery still existed there in 1850s.
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before he could finish 
I don’t like his generalizations and xenophobia towards Black immigrants. He’s literally using a plural for a singular. I understand that he dropped out of high school at 9th grade. But still, this is not necessary.
She’s right that Haiti was the catalyst for slave rebellions and the first nation for freed enslaved Africans (at the time).
Not everyone gets that this justice claim is not just about slavery, but also about the “Jim Crow period and the aftermath like the Man In The House Rule, war on drugs, mass incarceration”. This in many cases needs to be explained, especially to (Black) immigrants who’s are unaware of American history and the Black American experience.
If he was a wise and educated man he would have explained it with decorum and dignity. There’s no need for hostility. Not everyone gets it that Reparations in North America is and needs to be specifically for the descendants of Freedmen. This is race and lineage based. Also, one should not forget that it has been economist, sociologists and anthropologists putting in work to combat this injustice that has been going on.
“Haiti published its first constitution. Article 2 stated: “Slavery is forever abolished.” By abolishing slavery in its entirety, Haiti also abolished the slave trade, unlike the two-step approach of the European nations and the United States.”
"The Haitian Revolution has often been described as the largest and most successful slave rebellionin the Western Hemisphere. Slaves initiated the rebellion in 1791 and by 1803 they had succeeded in ending not just slavery but French control over the colony.”
Haitian Revolution (1791-1804) • Global African History •
The Haitian Revolution has been described as the largest slave rebellion in the Western Hemisphere which succeeded in ending slavery & French control over the colony.
www.blackpast.org
From Here to Equality: Reparations for Black Americans in the Twenty-First Century - Sandy Darity.
The Color of Money: Banking and Racial Inequality - Mehrsa Baradaran.
Cost of Being a Black American - Dr. Shawn Rochester.
The Color of Law - Dr. Richard Rothstein.
A blueprint for reparations in the US | William "Sandy" Darity
Money as a Democratic Medium | The Color of Money: Banking and Racial Inequality (with Slides), Mehrsa Baradaran. Harvard Law School
The Black Tax: Cost of Being a Black American | Shawn Rochester | Talks at Google
The Color of Law | Richard Rothstein | Talks at Google
Jamaal Bowman and Francesca Fiorentini speak on the 3rd Reconstruction and possibly payments to the Black community (ADOS/FBA). Jamaal explains how the government invested 190 billion in white community after WWII, receiving 98% of the funds, while Black people were left out of this.
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Breh on what planet is being boastfully ignorant of a years worth of developments is "standing on our square"???
I don't even think YOU know what you're talking about at this point, just tryna copeAs I’m watching Taharka Bey, it saddens me what happened at the Reparations Task Force hearing. Apparently a fight broke out, with Tariq being involved? This never happened before at none of the Task Force hearings held by The Racial and Identity Profiling Advisory Board.
News snippets of the Reparations Task Force.
News snippets of the Reparations Task Force.
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This channel has all the hearings with all the Task Force hearings by the The Racial and Identity Profiling Advisory Board.
Here is the entire recorded live Reparations Task Force 2023.
March 29, 2023 - Reparations Task Force Meeting Day #2 (Part 1 of 2)
March 29, 2023 - Reparations Task Force Meeting Day #2 (Part 2 of 2)
Here is the entire recorded live Reparations Task Force 2023.
March 29, 2023 - Reparations Task Force Meeting Day #2 (Part 1 of 2)
March 29, 2023 - Reparations Task Force Meeting Day #2 (Part 2 of 2)
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bigdaddy88
The King Of Power
nikkas in here think that making eloquent statements will make cacs give reparations 
60 plus years and we still dont learn
60 plus years and we still dont learnI also decided to listen to Brandon (Boochie Bear). A lot of the stuff he said is just incorrect. At one point he claimed that Italians and Greeks also have been lynched and should get reparations also. I was like what, do you have any idea what you’re talking about?
I did to explained to him that these people 1) came to America freely, on freewill and have gotten a “white statues”. 2) received a Marshall plan act as compensation to what was done to them for those few years. The lynchings of BP was based on economic principles, to steal and disfranchise those BP.
“It was the largest lynching in American history, and although no one was indicted for the crime, President Benjamin Harrison subsequently paid reparations of $25,000 to the Italian”.
(Source: Penn State University)
“Using statistics from white newspapers, Wells revealed that lynchings in the South had many causes, including the rising economic competition of African Americans with whites. Maintaining white supremacy, not the rape of white women, was the overall motivating factor, Wells concluded.”
www.latimes.com
“When the immigrant from Eastern Europe meets the Negro in New York,” Dr. W. E. B. Du Bois told us, “he is curious. He has never before seen a colored man; he therefore gazes at him as something new and novel. In his next step, through the process of Americanization, the immigrant will be told to avoid the Negroes, not to have any dealings with them, etc., etc. and later the final step, he will unconsciously begin to absorb the current prejudices against Negroes.”
[…]
The Martyrdom Of The Negro
“But before the immigrant goes any further, he should be stopped and warned. The millions of Negroes in America represent the exploited and persecuted group, just as these wanderers from Russia and Poland and Romania represent that of their countries. And the persecuted group gets little chance to be understood by the foreigner. The press, society, all the domineering forces of the state are against it” — and for the first time in our conversation the Doctor’s brown eyes flamed up.”
forward.com
(L.HonorsJune 7/ 2017, How The Forward Introduced Jews To W.E.B. Du Bois, [site] Forward).
I did to explained to him that these people 1) came to America freely, on freewill and have gotten a “white statues”. 2) received a Marshall plan act as compensation to what was done to them for those few years. The lynchings of BP was based on economic principles, to steal and disfranchise those BP.
“It was the largest lynching in American history, and although no one was indicted for the crime, President Benjamin Harrison subsequently paid reparations of $25,000 to the Italian”.
(Source: Penn State University)
“Using statistics from white newspapers, Wells revealed that lynchings in the South had many causes, including the rising economic competition of African Americans with whites. Maintaining white supremacy, not the rape of white women, was the overall motivating factor, Wells concluded.”
Readers React: How lynching was used by whites to destroy competition from black business owners
To the editor: Many sincere white Americans have raised the question of why African Americans have failed to become as successful as other people of color, especially recent immigrants to United States.
www.latimes.com
“When the immigrant from Eastern Europe meets the Negro in New York,” Dr. W. E. B. Du Bois told us, “he is curious. He has never before seen a colored man; he therefore gazes at him as something new and novel. In his next step, through the process of Americanization, the immigrant will be told to avoid the Negroes, not to have any dealings with them, etc., etc. and later the final step, he will unconsciously begin to absorb the current prejudices against Negroes.”
[…]
The Martyrdom Of The Negro
“But before the immigrant goes any further, he should be stopped and warned. The millions of Negroes in America represent the exploited and persecuted group, just as these wanderers from Russia and Poland and Romania represent that of their countries. And the persecuted group gets little chance to be understood by the foreigner. The press, society, all the domineering forces of the state are against it” — and for the first time in our conversation the Doctor’s brown eyes flamed up.”
How The Forward Introduced Jews To W.E.B. Du Bois
A 1923 interview with W.E.B. Du Bois first published in The Daily Jewish Forward.
forward.com
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He didn’t mention black immigrants. A lotta the people fighting for this in Cali are actually black immigrants.
Negga thought he was in a Twitter space
Voice of Reason
Veteran
If and when it does go to a vote.
It won’t get passed.
/thread
Probably true but I thought you were in favor shouldn't you think positively?