The Majority Report with Sam Seder Thread

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Cenk is a former republican and ana is a straight up Karen
Their views on criminal justice and homeless people betray their shift to the Center right

Never trusted them when they defend Ben Shapiro and platform him in one mouth then badmouth other leftists for calling them out

I never trusted them

Bro Cenk's on Nephew called them the fukk out. And pretty much said what you're saying here. They've been on that reactionary bullshyt.

 

[Robbie3000]

They wanted to cancel anyone who was platforming kanye for his antisemitism but then they also platform ben Shapiro who is advocating and platforming numerous people who are transphobic and antisemitic

Imo I think they are legit transitioning into becoming the daily wire of the left only they are fake leftists

Ana and cenk are starting to get out of touch on a lot of issues like boomers
Oleyemi pulled the receipts and showed her opinion on this topic a year ago and now she's mainlining republican talking points and attacking the left
Even Hasan who is cenks nephew is saying they are wrong on this

Something has changed

Bro Cenk's on Nephew called them the fukk out. And pretty much said what you're saying here. They've been on that reactionary bullshyt.

Leave your bubble sometimes. Majority of people, who you need to pass policy, would agree with TYT not Hasan or Oleyami.

So let me get this right, you want to use terms that antagonize most of the population to appease trans men who make up less than a percent of the population? If you are losing people on the left wing like Ana, Cenk and me, you’ve probably lost 99% of the population. Because we are wayyy more liberal than the average American.

My question is why? Do y’all care about creating a large coalition to advance trans rights or looking cool to your leftist buddies? If it’s the former, you are going about it in the wrong fukking way.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Leave your bubble sometimes. Majority of people, who you need to pass policy, would agree with TYT not Hasan or Oleyami.

So let me get this right, you want to use terms that antagonize most of the population to appease trans men who make up less than a percent of the population? If you are losing people on the left wing like Ana, Cenk and me, you’ve probably lost 99% of the population. Because we are wayyy more liberal than the average American.

My question is why? Do y’all care about creating a large coalition to advance trans rights or looking cool to your leftist buddies? If it’s the former, you are going about it in the wrong fukking way.

Reactionary babble.

NO ONE fukkING USES THAT WORD IRL (Twitter isn’t fukking real life) EXCEPT ACADEMICS, AND ITS ALSO IMPORTANT WORDING FOR POLICY.

That's the entire fukking point, and somehow you completely fukking missed it. It's no different from the bullshyt right wingers do online whining about shyt that doesn't affect. No one has ever called Ana fukking birthing person. She was straight up giving air to right wing nonsense in leftist spaces. She also somehow missed the point as well.

fukk is wrong with you

 

[Robbie3000]

Reactionary babble.

NO ONE fukkING USES THAT WORD EXCEPT ACADEMICS, AND ITS ALSO IMPORTANT WORDING FOR POLICY.

That's the entire fukking point, and somehow you completely fukking missed it. It's no different from the bullshyt right wingers do online whining about shyt that doesn't affect. No one has ever called Ana fukking birthing person. She was straight up giving air to right wing nonsense in leftist spaces. She also somehow missed the point as well.

fukk is wrong with you

Performative babble.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Performative babble.

If you can’t understand why giving air to that nonsense is bad then you never will and we’re wasting each others time. It’s silly shyt and Ana and cenk should both know better

If pushing back on that turns you and others into Nazis you never leftists or liberal in the first place

What she did was no different than shyt Shapiro and other right wing media types do. Creating a false narrative that doesn't actually exist in order to attack a small group of marginalized people for something they literally didn't do. It's absurd bullshyt

 

[Robbie3000]

If you can’t understand why giving air to that nonsense is bad then you never will and we’re wasting each others time. It’s silly shyt and Ana and cenk should both know better

If pushing back on that turns you and others into Nazis you never leftists or liberal in the first place

Ironic that you have Godless in your name when your opinions are as dogmatic as any fundamentalist. You parrot any nonsense coming from the left without thinking twice. Just like a fundie on the right.

Here you are calling calling me a Nazi because I believe something as crazy as only biological women can give birth and they should not be called birthing people to appease pregnant trans “men”.(who are still biologically women btw ).

It’s complete fukking horseshyt disguised as progressivism.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Ironic that you have Godless in your name when your opinions are as dogmatic as any fundamentalist. You parrot any nonsense coming from the left without thinking twice. Just like a fundie on the right.

Here you are calling calling me a Nazi because I believe something as crazy as only biological women can give birth and they should not be called birthing people to appease pregnant trans “men”.(who are still biologically women btw ).

It’s complete fukking horseshyt disguised as progressivism.

First off I didn't call you a nazi. I said since you have the reading comprehension of a grapefruit

If pushing back on that turns you and others into Nazis you were never leftists or liberal in the first place

Second off once again you're missing the point. I'll repost it because as I said you have the reading comprehension of a grapefruit. because you're doing the contrarian thing and your comments in bold tell the story with you that you don't actually give a shyt about these people.

What she did was no different than shyt Shapiro and other right wing media types do. Creating a false narrative that doesn't actually exist in order to attack a small group of marginalized people for something they literally didn't do. It's absurd bullshyt

Third off and lastly stop projecting your fukking lack of beliefs onto me. You and other so called "centrists" on this site don't have any real belief other than the false narrative about centrism that's been fed to you from birth. Yes some of us actually educated ourselves and belief in leftist ideology. Yes many of us care about people outside of our circles and don't believe marginalized and oppressed people deserve the hand that's being dealt to them by nefarious parties. Don't respond to me and try to have a back and forth if you're just going to say stupid bullshyt that implies "YOU DON'T ACTUALLY BELIEVE ANY OF THIS shyt!!!!"

Why even waste your time if you believe someone you're talking to is lying and full of shyt?

 

[storyteller]

Leave your bubble sometimes. Majority of people, who you need to pass policy, would agree with TYT not Hasan or Oleyami.

So let me get this right, you want to use terms that antagonize most of the population to appease trans men who make up less than a percent of the population? If you are losing people on the left wing like Ana, Cenk and me, you’ve probably lost 99% of the population. Because we are wayyy more liberal than the average American.

My question is why? Do y’all care about creating a large coalition to advance trans rights or looking cool to your leftist buddies? If it’s the former, you are going about it in the wrong fukking way.

The point lefties are making is that nobody uses "birthing person" outside of doctors talking to trans-people and academics covering trans-issues.

There is no bubble where people are like "we cannot use the term woman, we MUST use 'Birthing persons.'" That's not happening. The issue people have taken with Ana, is that she pretended this is even an issue. You're doing the same thing.

My question is why? Do you or someone you know get called a birthing person so often that it's become traumatic? Where is this happening? I guess in my bubble no one GAF about the phrase "birthing person" because no one uses it.

 

[Robbie3000]

First off I didn't call you a nazi. I said since you have the reading comprehension of a grapefruit



Second off once again you're missing the point. I'll repost it because as I said you have the reading comprehension of a grapefruit. because you're doing the contrarian thing and your comments in bold tell the story with you that you don't actually give a shyt about these people.



Third off and lastly stop projecting your fukking lack of beliefs onto me. You and other so called "centrists" on this site don't have any real belief other than the false narrative about centrism that's been fed to you from birth. Yes some of us actually educated ourselves and belief in leftist ideology. Yes many of us care about people outside of our circles and don't believe marginalized and oppressed people deserve the hand that's being dealt to them by nefarious parties. Don't respond to me and try to have a back and forth if you're just going to say stupid bullshyt that implies "YOU DON'T ACTUALLY BELIEVE ANY OF THIS shyt!!!!"

Why even waste your time if you believe someone you're talking to is lying and full of shyt?

Ana is pushing back against silly ass full retard nonsense coming from the like referring to pregnant women “birthing people”. Seems like you have a problem with biological women exercising their agency.

But it makes you seem real cool to those in your full retard bubble don’t it? You’re the true believers, the rest of us on the left are heretics.

Typical religious like fundamentalist behavior.

 

[Robbie3000]

The point lefties are making is that nobody uses "birthing person" outside of doctors talking to trans-people and academics covering trans-issues.

There is no bubble where people are like "we cannot use the term woman, we MUST use 'Birthing persons.'" That's not happening. The issue people have taken with Ana, is that she pretended this is even an issue. You're doing the same thing.

My question is why? Do you or someone you know get called a birthing person so often that it's become traumatic? Where is this happening? I guess in my bubble no one GAF about the phrase "birthing person" because no one uses it.

I object to the use of that word in any context. As far as I know only women can give birth and if they do, they are mothers.

Let’s cut the nonsense. Y’all are not going to gaslight me.

It’s crazy that we are even having this debate.

 

[storyteller]

I object to the use of that word in any context. As far as I know only women can give birth and if they do, they are mothers.

Let’s cut the nonsense. Y’all are not going to gaslight me.

It’s crazy that we are even having this debate.

This ain't gaslighting or a debate. I asked you a really simple question. Have you or anyone you know ever been called a birthing person? If no, then wtf are you complaining about?

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

This ain't gaslighting or a debate. I asked you a really simple question. Have you or anyone you know ever been called a birthing person? If no, then wtf are you complaining about?

It's shocking how easily people who are relatively educated fall for this reactionary garbage then when confronted accuse you of being "fake" or not believing in your ideologies. It's so fukking strange.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Ana is pushing back against silly ass full retard nonsense coming from the like referring to pregnant women “birthing people”. Seems like you have a problem with biological women exercising their agency.

But it makes you seem real cool to those in your full retard bubble don’t it? You’re the true believers, the rest of us on the left are heretics.

Typical religious like fundamentalist behavior.

I'm sorry, but nothing you've posted so far even remotely indicates you're anything other than the typical center right American. Falling for obvious reactionary garbage doesn't help either. Also please answer @storyteller question

 

[Robbie3000]

This ain't gaslighting or a debate. I asked you a really simple question. Have you or anyone you know ever been called a birthing person? If no, then wtf are you complaining about?

I said I object to the use of the word in any context. It’s ridiculous and frankly, it’s counterproductive. It’s like how I objected to use if ‘Defund the Police” and I was right. It was used to attack attempts to address problems in policing.

 

[storyteller]

I said I object to the use of the word in any context. It’s ridiculous and frankly, it’s counterproductive. It’s like how I objected to use if ‘Defund the Police” and I was right. It was used to attack attempts to address problems in policing.

So is it fair to say that you've never experienced the word being used in any context, nor has anyone you've known?

Because then I'm back at my original stance: This isn't even a real issue.