The Long-Shot Candidate Who Has the White House Worried - Joe Biden has a Cornel West problem.

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Don't ask me for evidence or polls on this either. Every time I post them over the last like...6-7 years people lie and obfuscate and deny the legitimacy of the polls

Of course I can't ask you for evidence - you already know you don't have it. Here are the LAST TWENTY POLLS for Trump vs. Sanders, and Bernie had a fukking double-digit lead:


IBD/TIPP5/31 - 6/5908 A3.34939Sanders +10
Quinnipiac5/24 - 5/301561 RV2.54839Sanders +9
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl5/15 - 5/191000 RV3.15439Sanders +15
CBS News/NY Times5/13 - 5/171109 RV3.05138Sanders +13
FOX News5/14 - 5/171021 RV3.04642Sanders +4
PPP (D)5/6 - 5/91222 RV3.25039Sanders +11
CNN/ORC4/28 - 5/1890 RV3.55640Sanders +16
IBD/TIPP4/22 - 4/28814 RV3.55038Sanders +12
USA Today/Suffolk4/20 - 4/241000 LV3.05237Sanders +15
GWU/Battleground4/17 - 4/201000 LV3.15040Sanders +10
FOX News4/11 - 4/131021 RV3.05339Sanders +14
CBS News4/8 - 4/121098 RV3.05336Sanders +17
McClatchy/Marist3/29 - 3/311066 RV3.05737Sanders +20
IBD/TIPP3/28 - 4/2819 RV3.55336Sanders +17
PPP (D)3/24 - 3/261083 RV3.04840Sanders +8
FOX News3/20 - 3/221016 RV3.05238Sanders +14
Bloomberg3/19 - 3/22815 LV3.45834Sanders +24
Quinnipiac3/16 - 3/211451 RV2.65238Sanders +14
CBS News/NY Times3/17 - 3/201058 RV4.05338Sanders +15
CNN/ORC3/17 - 3/20925 RV3.05838Sanders +20




Every excuse for bernie can't be some accusation that people don't care about the poor or working class or whatever emotional appeal yall trot out. Winning has to matter and the ability to be perceived as being able to deliver matters. This shyt isn't fair, it's politics.

lol at you using a "don't blame the people" argument against Bernie, when just minutes ago you were saying, "Clinton did nothing wrong, I blame the voters." :laff:
 

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At some point intuition has to matter.

A primary favorite is

Also...again, as I'm slowly being proven right on this trans issue, it's costing democrats and soon you all will be having to admit this one by one. I'm seeing the signals everywhere.

Post some examples of the trans issues costing Democrats. Since you are seeing signals "everywhere", it shouldn't be hard for you to find examples.
 

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Post some examples of the trans issues costing Democrats. Since you are seeing signals "everywhere", it shouldn't be hard for you to find examples.


 

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First off, let's just point out the open deceit here, because neither Bernie nor Cornell is a communist, nor have the run on being a communist, nor are they advocating for a USSR/China-type state.

Second, here are my questions for you. Do you feel like the country and the world, if they continued with, say, first term Obama policies, would be on a positive, sustainable track? Do you believe that global warming would somehow stop, that constant growth economy would somehow be sustainable, that the environment would somehow not tap out, and that the wealth gap would somehow close? I just want to check exactly how deluded you are.
Perception matters.

I'm a democrat, and I'm to the left of most of you. I just actually like winning elections BEFORE I come out as a fukking hippie.

These are bad faith questions that you should know where I stand on but you think that front-loading your team flag is going to help you by claiming to be XYZ type of leftist. It doesn't work and you're not reading the room.
 

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Of course I can't ask you for evidence - you already know you don't have it. Here are the LAST TWENTY POLLS for Trump vs. Sanders, and Bernie had a fukking double-digit lead:
These are hypothetical polls because it assumes both won their primaries. Both had not won their primaries. It was sheer fantasy, since Bernie got blown out twice.

People say all sorts of shyts in polls until its time to pick.

Are you playing this game?
 

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See this is why you can't trust bernie bros. Its sheer fantasy and they rely on polls saying "hey do you like blowjobs or getting your dikk chopped off" and they'll be like ...OMG LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO LIKE BLOWJOBS!
 

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lol at you using a "don't blame the people" argument against Bernie, when just minutes ago you were saying, "Clinton did nothing wrong, I blame the voters." :laff:
You move your goalposts to defend Bernie. See how fun it is?

Why are you using polls when he’s supposed to beat Trump? But aren’t his ideas better? Didn’t the democrats stall him? Didn’t he get cheated?

Everyone loves Bernie and everything bad happens to him.

Black democrats in South Carolina didn’t oppose Bernie it’s that they are shilling for democrats like Clyburn because they’re all neoliberals who hate poor people and the environment
 
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These dudes got facts and figures but don't have the human touch to know that PEOPLE LIE all the time and that you can claim to want Bernie's plans knowing damn well he's not the one to pull it off.

I fukking voted for ELIZABETH WARREN...you know...the woman who staffed Biden's entire economic team and lead to massive social spending and economic recovery!

fukking losers man. look all all this time.
 

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Yeah, until this actually loses Dems an election and stops being theoretical, this is just speculation.

Repubs have underperformed in every national (Federal election) since 2018. That is the actual evidence that we have.
 

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I swear to god bernie bros just grind my gears in their inability to fukking know how to get shyt done. Its all theory and complaining with their magic perfect solutions that they know fukk all about getting accomplished then getting mad when reality doesn't comport.

This is why I will forever rue the day letting bernie pollute this discourse by giving these chronic losers and whiners a voice.

democrats are a fragile coalition and he blew it up just to show everyone how superior he was and left them holding the bag and now none of them can live up to their own online clout groups of sticking it to dems to own the libs and chasing after class reductionist bullshyt artists

I have complete contempt for what they did to the democrats and will never forgive them for 2016
 

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Yeah, until this actually loses Dems an election and stops being theoretical, this is just speculation.

Repubs have underperformed in every national (Federal election) since 2018. That is the actual evidence that we have.
You dont need to lose an election to highlight a trend. This is why they're called interventions. We're losing votes over it because trans issues broke the camel's back. Many independents and even conservative democrats are OK with republicans reeling LGBT stuff back in or making laws against it.
 

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Second, here are my questions for you. Do you feel like the country and the world, if they continued with, say, first term Obama policies, would be on a positive, sustainable track? Do you believe that global warming would somehow stop, that constant growth economy would somehow be sustainable, that the environment would somehow not tap out, and that the wealth gap would somehow close? I just want to check exactly how deluded you are.
yo look at this nikka man :gucci:

what type of questions are these? :gucci:

is this supposed to mean something to me?

Obama TRIED to get all this shyt done. Biden is TRYING to get all this shyt done.

And yall fukking cult members think its just not being bernie in office means its the reason we haven't found the socialist god yet or repented for our neoliberal ways and thats why the world hasn't come together in harmony and righteous heavenly existence.

Yall sound fukking nuts man. Just evangelical pawns.
 
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