The Levant an Extension of Africa? Let's take a look shall we?

[↓R↑LYB]

Whenever y'all start to talk about history and bring the bible into it you start sounding like a smart dumb nikka. To believe that we're all descendants of Ham, Shem, and Japheth implies that you believe the story of the flood is actually real

 

[Poitier]

you believe the story of the flood is actually real

That region of the world was flooded at 1 point, slow nikka

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Whenever y'all start to talk about history and bring the bible into it you start sounding like a smart dumb nikka. To believe that we're all descendants of Ham, Shem, and Japheth implies that you believe the story of the flood is actually real

Read the OP again before going off-topic...

Spoiler

That is if you're addressing me and not solely @Marvel

 

[↓R↑LYB]

This is a great thread but I just wanted to make one observation too, I don't think we should be so caught up in trying to prove the African identity of ancient Hebrews and the like. I feel that while interesting, important to explore, and (at least partly) true, it is more in the interest of diasporic Africans to learn more about traditional West African culture and spirituality. Pan-Africanism is cool but if you're descended from West Africans, you have at best a tangential and distant relationship to Northeast Africa/the Levant, and there's really no reason to identify so much with that region given the rich culture of West Africa.

I just think our overemphasis on Abrahamic stuff is a carryover from the imposition of Western ideas and forced conversion.

This, it always confuses me when I ready a history book from a black person they have to quote bible verses. And the reason they focus so much on Egypt is because cacs do. Personally I know the Egyptians were black africans like me, but I also think a lot of the more contemporary kingdoms definitely need to be talked about. The Mali empire and Mansa Musa. The Songhai Empire and Askia the Great. The Nubian Empire and king Piye.

Our history is way more than North Africa and like you said, I'm more than likely of western African descent so I focus on those parts of Africa.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Read the OP again before going off-topic...

Spoiler

That is if you're addressing me and not solely @Marvel

I didn't read the whole OP. Once you started talking about the Bible you went into duckberg on me.

 

[Poitier]

This, it always confuses me when I ready a history book from a black person they have to quote bible verses. And the reason they focus so much on Egypt is because cacs do. Personally I know the Egyptians were black africans like me, but I also think a lot of the more contemporary kingdoms definitely need to be talked about. The Mali empire and Mansa Musa. The Songhai Empire and Askia the Great. The Nubian Empire and king Piye.

Our history is way more than North Africa and like you said, I'm more than likely of western African descent so I focus on those parts of Africa.

You didn't even know what an Ethiopian Jew was a few week back stupid nikka

nikka learned about Thomas Sankara last week now he going to Lagos to "save Africa"

Stop derailing, cornball

 

[Bawon Samedi]

I didn't read the whole OP. Once you started talking about the Bible you went into duckberg on me.

Then I guess there's no point in reasoning.

 

[Poitier]

Then I guess there's no point in reasoning.

He thinks the Olmecs were Black. Stop responding to the dumb fukk boy and keep the material flowing.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Then I guess there's no point in reasoning.

Sounds about right

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Sounds about right

Then

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Then

Why you being demonic breh

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This shyt is flawed because it asserts humanity started only when these "sources" were around

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Why you being demonic breh

No ones being demonic, you don't care what the topic is REALLY about, so then whats the point of being in this thread? This thread is not about saying we're descendants of Ham or the Bible, but using Eurocentric tactics against them and examining if the earlier people of the levent overlapped with Africans next door to them.

This shyt is flawed because it asserts humanity started only when these "sources" were around

Out!

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Out!

Why do your arguments start with the bible tho?

I don't deny the genetic evidence, but some of these stories are just straight out and above hard to take seriously.

I've rarely considered the arab peninsula its own place, but some of the stuff in here is kinda incredulous.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Why do your arguments start with the bible tho?

I don't deny the genetic evidence, but some of these stories are just straight out and above hard to take seriously.

I've rarely considered the arab peninsula its own place, but some of the stuff in here is kinda incredulous.

This thread isn't about these stories. Which is what I already tried to tell @bdizzle. I already know stories from the Bibles are "twisted" events that happened in antiquity. Again that is not the point of this thread.

The discussion of "Ham" in this thread has to do with how Eurocentrics flip-flopped with the term throughout ages. How once it meant "black" to meaning non-black "Caucasoid". Yet the Hebrews themselves stated the Hamitics were of the "black race". That was really the only Bible related thing I bought up. The primarily historical sources I cited weren't from the bible but are actual historical sources.

I don't know why you or @bdizzle are coming up with these Bibles when this thread isn't about them. IIRC it was only @Marvel who bought them up.

If you disagree with the statements in the OP, fine. But please try to understand where its coming from first. Also the Levent isn't the Arabian peninsula.