The Levant an Extension of Africa? Let's take a look shall we?

[Bawon Samedi]

Uh....Oh............

I know I'm late in posting this here, but for those who keep saying that the people of the Levant today were exactly the same as those thousands of years ago or that haplogroup J has always been in that area. Well eat your words.

Anthromadness: The genetic structure of the world's first farmers

Just look at how these Natufians are "E filled."

I1407: L1a
I1632: L1a
I1634: L1a

Iran_Mesolithic (Hotu Cave):

I1293: J(xJ2a1b3, J2b2a1a1)

Iran_Neolithic:

I1945: P1(xQ, R1b1a2, R1a1a1b1a1b, R1a1a1b1a3a, R1a1a1b2a2a)

I1949: CT

Iran_Late Neolithic:

I1671: G2a1(xG2a1a)

Iran_Chalcolithic:

I1662: J(xJ1a, J2a1, J2b)
I1674: G1a(xG1a1)

Natufians (Epipaleolithic Levant):

I0861: E1b1b1b2(x E1b1b1b2a, E1b1b1b2b)
I1069: E1b1(xE1b1a1, E1b1b1b1)
I1072: E1b1b1b2(xE1b1b1b2a, E1b1b1b2b)
I1685: CT
I1690: CT

Levant_Neolithic:

I0867: H2 (PPNB)
I1414: E(xE2, E1a, E1b1a1a1c2c3b1, E1b1b1b1a1, E1b1b1b2b) (PPNB)
I1415: E1b1b1 (PPNB)
I1416: CT (PPNB)
I1707: T(xT1a1, T1a2a) (PPNB)
I1710: E1b1b1(x E1b1b1b1a1, E1b1b1a1b1, E1b1b1a1b2, E1b1b1b2a1c) (PPNB)
I1727: CT(xE, G, J, LT, R, Q1a, Q1b) (PPNB)
I1700: CT (PPNC)

Levant_Bronze Age:

I1705: J1(xJ1a)
I1730: J(xJ1, J2a, J2b2a)

As for CT that itself is also argued to be African.


This literally goes with what I've been saying! In that the area of the Levant could really just be looked at as an extension of Africa or better yet part of Africa.

But what really catches my eye is that the J haplogroups which people associate with Arabs and Jews seem to be more recently introduced to the area around maybe the Bronze age, but from more northern areas like Iran!

This is not good for the Euronuts who still try to claim Afro-Asiatic as non-Africa, but from the area of Armenia, Iran, or any other Northern Middle Eastern areas. But it gets more scary when it is looking like more and more that these people:

Are not indigenous to the area and come from areas that NEVER spoke an Afro-Asiatic language... I mean the Greeks themselves say that the lighter Leucosyrian came from more north.

Lastly what I find the MOST interesting is that this kinda goes with bible traditions on "race" in that Levant or better yet "Canaan" was grouped in with other Northeast Africans! Them all being grouped under "Hamitic."

But boy oh boy I am seeing Euronuts all around the net now trying to claim the whole E haplogroup...AGAIN!

Now the study says they did not come from Sub Sahara Africa, that is because if I remember Africans like Yoruba who are far away from that area are being used as a proxy for SSA. If they used Sudanese/Egyptians then we would get a totally different story. I NEVER expected them to be from SSA, but southern Levant or Red Sea area of Northeast African i.e Sudan/Egypt.

WHATEVER the case maybe they came from more southern areas...

 

[Biddap]

This thread is ridiculous. The land of "Canaan" is not in the middle east. You realize this is a land that is described as "flowing with milk and honey" right? . Not only that, none of the ancient cities can be found in that place. Where is Jericho? Where is Tyre? Where is the cosway Alexander the Great built out to capture Tyre when he realized it was in the middle of the sea? . The problem with OP is he doesn't read what the ancient people say, he reads the retard white scholars who try to explain it and make absolutely no sense doing so.

 

[Biddap]

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[Bawon Samedi]

^^^How about you stop trolling. No one is taking the bible LITERALLY and I have posted PRIMARY sources from classical authors. So lose the nonsense with flowing milk and honey.

Anyone with common sense can see that I am correlating Southern Levant with Canaan. More importantly people from the Levant like the Phoenicians calles themselves Caananites. Most biblical text and classical writers places Canaan in southern Levant.

 

[Biddap]

^^^How about you stop trolling. No one is taking the bible LITERALLY and I have posted PRIMARY sources from classical authors. So lose the nonsense with flowing milk and honey.

Anyone with common sense can see that I am correlating Southern Levant with Canaan. More importantly people from the Levant like the Phoenicians calles themselves Caananites. Most biblical text and classical writers places Canaan in southern Levant.

The problems with jackasses like you is you love following these caucasian scholars and do not have a drop of your own sense, that is why you will never regain these histories. The land of Canaan and the histories are not occurring in the middle east. Like I said show me the Canaanite cities over there or shut up.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

The problems with jackasses like you is you love following these caucasian scholars and do not have a drop of your own sense, that is why you will never regain these histories. The land of Canaan and the histories are not occurring in the middle east. Like I said show me the Canaanite cities over there or shut up.

Didn't I tell you to knock off the trolling? What the heck does white scholars have to do with anything? Every historical text including even the bible places the Levant in southern Levant. More importantly did I NOT say in this thread that the Levant is technically an extension of Africa? Geographically and by migrations since the Neolithic?? How about you read what was said in this.

I dont have to shut, this is MY thread and I already postes my sources. How about YOU post your sources or get oyt of my thread with your trolling.

As for surviving cities? Jerusalem? Even though it has been destroyed many times. And the Kushytes who saved the Hebrews from the Assyrians claimed that Jerusalem was in the Levant. There goes your nonsense of only whites claiming Canaan was not in the Levant.

 

[Knicksman20]

Just want to point out that this Lachish study I posted.


"The excavation uncovered a mass of human bones, which was estimated to form the remains of fifteen hundred individuals [...] Remains of 695 skulls were brought to London by the British expedition [...] Curiously, the crania indicate a close resemblance to the population of Egypt at this time [...] 'the relationships found suggests that the population of the town in 700 B.C. was entirely, or almost entirely, of Egyptian origin...' They show further, that the population of Lakish was probably derived from Upper Egypt [...] If so, this indeed is a conclusion of far-reaching implications

Is kinda refuted in that they were not derived from migrating Egyptians.
"The proposal that Lachish was comprised of Egyptian immigrants (Risdon, 1939) was not supported. Rather, the current findings support the theory that the people of Lachish were indigenous to the southern Levant (Keith, 1940; Arensburg, 1973; Arensburg et al., 1980; Smith, 1995), as Dothan and Lachish were both significantly different from Lisht." (Ullinger et al. 2005)


BUT, their crania and the crania of the surrounding areas were more similar to that of Africans. However Ullinger seems to contradict himself with this...

"...Dothan, however, may have had slightly more Egyptian genetic influence than Lachish. The location of Dothan along a major international highway between Egypt and Mesopotamia(as well as the Mediterranean and Mesopotamia) during the Late Bronze Age may shed light on this finding (Mullins, 2002)."

That's crazy interesting bruh

 

[SirReginald]

I Stand by my case that white Arabs are Eurasians / whites from turkey.

Wait, I read on different sites that Aryans and White Nationalist don't consider Turks White. Because they have admixture. I also read that on forumbiodiversity.com

 

[Bawon Samedi]

That's crazy interesting bruh

Indeed it is...

 

[Knicksman20]

Indeed it is...

It forces some of these white supremacist archeologists & scholars to rethink the accepted ideas

 

[Bawon Samedi]

It forces some of these white supremacist archeologists & scholars to rethink the accepted ideas

I would say it would force them to broaden their ideas, especially of African migration and history. I say this because the study I posted that you replied to is quite old.

 

[J-Nice]

Looks like I'm gonna have to break out the books and post some info

 

[thekyuke]

Damn;why didn't I see this thread earlier! I'm in a rush but will say this:yes,OP,you're correct on many levels. The MSM has tried to separate Egypt from Africa for the reasons mentioned. People are waking up. Some will stay firmly asleep-leave them be!
The Natufians of the Holocene to the first OOA immigrants were black Africans as were the Abrahamic era Israelites,who were specifically Ga Adangbe of the Akan in todays Ghana. Look at their similar first names with Israelis:

Here are some Ga-Dangmes names and their Hebrew equivalents
Ga-Dangmes Names Hebrew Names

1. Aryeh Aryeh
2 Afra Ofra
3. Otto Yishai
4. Aryelle Aryelle
5. Ofei Ofer
6 Ada Ada
7 Tema Tema
8 Nunu Nun
9 Dodoo Dodo
10 Ashi Ashi
11 Dangme Dan
12. Anan Anan
13. Ga Gad
14. Abe Avraham (Abraham)
15 Sachar (Saka) Sachar
16. Dode (Dodi) Dodi
17. Kadi Kadi
18. Nerle Nerli
19 Ayah Ayah (female)
20 Ayaa Aya (male)
21. Adama Adam
22. Nete Natane
23. Achimota Achimot
24. Nungua Nun
25. Amaa Amal
26 Abeka Afeka
27 Omanye Omen
28. Aku Akuv
29 Aye Ayelet

Karanja'z Place: ZIOILLUMINATI NOT YET OUT,BUT DEFINITELY ON THE ROPES

The Assyrians who enslaved them are the Fulani:

The entire ME was an extension of Africa-the Elamites,Babylonians,Sumerians etc etc have all been proven craniomterically,linguistically and culturally to be African. Someone mentioned Dravidians,ie the Tamils? Their language is compatible with todays Cameroonians.



The uploader is himself Tamil.

Watch out though! getinthetruck gets all butthurt at this

 

[iliketurtles]

I always see the Levant as settlements and colonies of various tribes. And a group of Asians mixed with White's came in and invaded. That makes the most sense to me. Those invaders were the Hyksos in Egypt.

persian???

 

[Bawon Samedi]

I just found there are arguments for Moses himself being black but not only that the Islamic Quran has traditions of calling him black!


Sir T.W. Arnold says, “According to Mohammedan tradition, Moses was a black man.” (The Preaching of Islam, p. 106. Westminster, 1896.)


وَرَأَيْتُ مُوسَى أَسْحَمَ آدَم
“I saw Musa (Moses) and he was a black-skinned man.”
Musnad Imam Ahmed Hadith # 3365

َأَمَّا مُوسَى فَرَجُلٌ آدَمُ جَعْد
“As for Musa/Moses, he is a black-skinned man with very curly hair.”

AL Qurtubi, the famous interprator of the Qur'an says when talking about Musa's (AS) appearance:

وكان موسى أسمر شديد السمرة
"Musa (Moses) was extremely dark brown in skin color."

At Tabari says in the Tafsir about Prophet Musa's sign of his handing turning white:

وكان موسى، فيما ذكر لنا، آدم، فجعل الله تحول يده بيضاء من غير برص، له آية
"According to what we were told, Musa (Moses) was black-skinned and Allah made Musa’s hand turning white, without being affected by leprosy, a sign for him."

Tafsir of the same verse by al Baidawi:

أنه عليه السلام كان آدم شديد الأدمة ، فأدخل يده في جيبه أو تحت إبطه ثم نزعها فإذا هي بيضاء نورانية غلب شعاعها شعاع الشمس
"It is related that Musa (pbuh) was black-skinned. He put his hand in his pocket or under his armpit and took it out and it was white."