The Last of Us Part II Spoiler Discussion Thread

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If you cant see you’re clearly the one in your feelings, replying to literally every comment with some completely irrelevant criticism for a game you have no intention of playing you’re proving my point. somehow, at some point..these plot points and leaks have got you so upset you’re in the thread arguing with people who are in fact playing the game that their viewpoints are wrong, and when you do get proven wrong, which you have multiple times, you switch your argument or the narrative or move goalposts, then when people call you out for being a clear troll or/and dummy, you play the defensive roll like you’re just trying to have a civil discussion...once again on something that you are not actually playing or have insight on compared to those who are in fact playing it. It’s this same bullshyt that got you banned from the main thread before the game even came out

The mental gymnastics you have gone through has made you look like an overly upset fanboy who has had your feelings hurt by the choices in this story, i feel like an idiot for engaging with you this long honestly, you get no more replies from me


This is the type of post that makes you look like a complete delusional fanboy

  • half the people in this thread don’t even like the game - so how on earth are you determine that I am the only hater in here
  • absolutely nobody prove me wrong and I haven’t moved no goalpost.... you’re just making that stupid shyt up or maybe you’re confusing me with another poster.... if so drop your receipts I’ll fukking wait
  • lastly we went back-and-forth for a good minute .... I thought/assume we both clarified each of us opinions/statement .... I ended with “well will just have to agree to disagree ..... “ and I kept it moving that was my last reply to you .... thereafter.... I moved on to converse with other posters - in which you took it upon yourself to interject into them, replying to several of my post(s) from these others : which only means you still wanted to continue with this back-and-forth (which proves who is in theirs feelings)
 

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I’ve noticed a trend over the last decade that the internet has given the Dunning Krueger crowd a voice. In all areas of human discord.

Essentially there is a huge crowd of painfully average to low intelligence individuals that because of the internet have found that they are not alone in their thoughts. Not only that, finding people who think like them has affirmed to them that in actuality, it’s every one ELSE who doesn’t get it and they start believing they are the ones arguing with dense idiots when it’s really vice versa. (science deniers, flat earthers, trump defenders etc )

I think this type of person is very susceptible to a hive mind and wanting to make sure they fit into the archetype they believe is right. So stuff like “they are forcing their sjw agenda into my games” gets them passionately riled up and they move as an army because it upsets them so deeply. This built in confirmation bias has them thinking every thing fits their description. Then once the momentum starts they become like a little army fighting for the same cause. Many of which are just repeating what those like them have said without even seeing it for themselves.

I’ve seen that happen with this game. At least half the people I’ve argued with about it didn’t even play it through. Can’t articulate exactly what they’re upset about. And at the same time think if you did like it you are dumb or a shill.

I've heard these people claim that people giving it bad reviews have been attacked and should be allowed to have their own opinion. And in the same breath they are attacking those who gave it good reviews by the thousands saying “there is no chance you liked it cause I didn’t. So therefore you must have been bought by Sony. You are a shill cause I don’t like this game and you do”

The shyt is ridiculous. Now let me be clear I am not saying if you didn’t like this game you are a dummy. It is all objective and I can totally see someone not liking it, that’s fine.

But to me most of the arguments I’ve seen seriously lacked critical thinking, were very hyperbolic (stuff like I didn’t like one part so 1/10 games trash) and in many cases flat out misunderstood something relevant to their complaint.

I am always very weary of anyone who gets super hyperbolic in their criticisms. Naughty dog is trash. This is so bad they musta did it on purpose. They ruined the game. This shyt is not good at all. What a bad game.

Hyperbole being used in a context like this is almost always a crutch to real criticism to exaggerate someone’s feelings without truly having to articulate it.

I guess I’m just commenting on the fact that in modern America there is a huge faction of dunces that are just smart enough to not realize they are stupid. And ironically think it’s everyone else who doesn’t get it.

Which explains a lot about the modern world and make me sad inside. :mjcry:
 
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The gaming community is an embarrassment on both sides, I stand on the side of not liking the product but I'm not about to question those that do, George Flyods name should not come into this discussion it's a fukking video game, also if you like it cool but don't compare this to schindler's list, wtf is wrong with the gaming community.

Also speak to each other like fukking adults ya'll be extra sassy on the internet chill out save that sassy shyt for topics actually worth getting emotional over.

The comparison to Schindler's list wasn’t an equivalence. Criticisms of this game are full of intellectually disingenuous arguments. That’s not to say some people don’t have concerns not tethered on the noise around it, but for the most part, people are just being obtuse or dishonest when discussing it. The guy that made the Schindler’s List remark was simply saying the game had a similar emotional effect on him that the film did, in that the game was harrowing and hard to get through, he called it an "emotional assault." At no point was an equivalence made to the Holocaust or that movie’s importance to the film medium.

Schindler’s List is still media, and invoking it as such shouldn’t be off limits just because of its subject matter.

I don’t know what the fukk that breh was talking about with the George Floyd thing though
 

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Still waiting on brehs to start listing these apparent “plot holes” that are all over the game :jbhmm:

brehs make that claim then hot sauce dribble past it when nikkas ask them to list these plot holes.
 

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Idk why people wanted to play as old ass Joel in this. Everything from the first game would've been the same gameplay wise. Can you image him riding/running around in Seattle climbing ropes, jumping, sliding through small spaces, under cars and diving on the ground :russ: Abby was basically young OG Joel in this and she would've fukked his ass up :pachaha:
 

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The gaming community is an embarrassment on both sides, I stand on the side of not liking the product but I'm not about to question those that do, George Flyods name should not come into this discussion it's a fukking video game, also if you like it cool but don't compare this to schindler's list, wtf is wrong with the gaming community.

Also speak to each other like fukking adults ya'll be extra sassy on the internet chill out save that sassy shyt for topics actually worth getting emotional over.
Facts
 

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Still waiting on brehs to start listing these apparent “plot holes” that are all over the game :jbhmm:

brehs make that claim then hot sauce dribble past it when nikkas ask them to list these plot holes.

The only ones I see people mention is "Teleportation" from Wyoming to Seattle and why didn't Tommy leave the doors open for Ellie & Dina
 

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So gamers showing they don't care about crunch and harassing ND workers. Go ahead leave and see if you have a job after:usure:
 

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The only ones I see people mention is "Teleportation" from Wyoming to Seattle and why didn't Tommy leave the doors open for Ellie & Dina
It used to peeve me when people would get on the teleportation stuff in Game of Thrones. When it's like, it's still media restricted by time. We can skip the 6 month journey to get to the next scene. People used to think if one scene has a conversation in this location, and the next has a conversation in this location that of course they must be occurring in that order within the universe. However many times they were occurring at different times. Now don't get me wrong there was some semi crazy distances people traveled shortly in that game. But a lot of it was easily explained. People just had a hard time conceptualizing that every scene isn't necessarily concurrent with each other, and not always explicitly explained passed the context.

Did the game ever insinuate that anyone made that journey in an unrealistic time? or did they just skip boring in between travel? You don't have to view every second of a characters existence for a story to be realistic.

It always makes me curious when people say that's teleportation. If the game said "2 days later, Wyoming" then sure but I don't think it did. I think it's assumed, obviously, that it's far enough into the future to account for the journey. Why does that have to be explicitly explained?

If I'm watching a movie and someone in Boston says I'm driving to LA. Then the next scene is them buying a hotel room in LA. I'm not gonna look at the screen and go "buh buh but how did he teleport it's only been 10 seconds"
 

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So gamers showing they don't care about crunch and harassing ND workers. Go ahead leave and see if you have a job after:usure:
A lot of gamers don’t care unfortunately, people pretty much have the stance of shut the fukk and make my game, either that or there’s outcry when the allegations came out but they’re quiet as fukk once they actually get the game and enjoy it, RDR2 and this being good examples
 

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So gamers showing they don't care about crunch and harassing ND workers. Go ahead leave and see if you have a job after:usure:

Gaming community is a different beast they don't give a fukk about you being worked to death long as that product comes out amazing and they can see a horse nuts jiggle as it takes off into the woods.

I've seen gamers say shyt like "wow I know crunch sucks and sorry a lot of you had mental break downs but the attention to detail is amazing"
 

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Gaming community is a different beast they don't give a fukk about you being worked to death long as that product comes out amazing and they can see a horse nuts jiggle as it takes off into the woods.

I've seen gamers say shyt like "wow I know crunch sucks and sorry a lot of you had mental break downs but the attention to detail is amazing"
:russ:

The fact that this isn't a made up joke makes it even funnier
 

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So gamers showing they don't care about crunch and harassing ND workers. Go ahead leave and see if you have a job after:usure:

What’s going on in this exchange? As far as I can tell the ND worker was saying they weren’t forced to look at mutilation videos (another dumb rumor made up by weirdos that hate this game) and that person that replied seems to be implying that they were by saying they’re also not forced to crunch, to which she replied “breh, I work here and in this specific part of the game”
 
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