The Last of Us Part II Spoiler Discussion Thread
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Goddamn that dude knows those encounters perfectly. This is some edge of tomorrow shyt
He knows where everybody is going to be at all times
TheGodling
Los Ingobernables de Sala de Cine
At 5:00 Abby shoots a Stalker in the leg, grabs it, then pushes it into a Clicker who bites into the Stalker.
I didn't even know that shyt was possible. This fukking game, man.
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
Goddamn that dude knows those encounters perfectly. This is some edge of tomorrow shyt
He knows where everybody is going to be at all times
He just fed that clicker to another clicker I'm done
Humble (Not) Mike Tyson
All Star
A thought;
The point of the game is 'Revenge Is Pointless.'
Why do so many of the ppl who defend the narrative still feel "Joel Deserves It."???
I don't wanna fight. I'm just asking.
The point of the game is 'Revenge Is Pointless.'
Why do so many of the ppl who defend the narrative still feel "Joel Deserves It."???
I don't wanna fight. I'm just asking.
Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
A thought;
The point of the game is 'Revenge Is Pointless.'
Why do so many of the ppl who defend the narrative still feel "Joel Deserves It."???
I don't wanna fight. I'm just asking.
The game makes the best case for why he deserves it when you play as abby. For the same reason people think abby deserves to be killed.
Brehs
At the end of the day I guess I’m the winner
I posed a simple question that nobody could answer .... a simple “yes” or a simple “no” would’ve been suffice
then much later on posters attempted to used Marlene as her guardianship.... thereafter, I proved Ellie just met Marlene a month before Joel - and her & Marlene basically had no relationship at all
Humble (Not) Mike Tyson
All Star
So, the simultaneously makes the case for revenge AND against it?
At the end of the day I guess I’m the winner
not really, your whole position was silly and contradicting so I got tired of going back and forth with you and once it came out that you never actually played the games....I didn't see a point to it anymore.
If you wanna call that a "win", do you breh
What was the question, maybe I can answer it.
At the end of the day I guess I’m the winner
I posed a simple question that nobody could answer .... a simple “yes” or a simple “no” would’ve been suffice
then much later on posters attempted to used Marlene as her guardianship.... thereafter, I proved Ellie just met Marlene a month before Joel - and her & Marlene basically had no relationship at all
It was something like did the doctor or Marlene have the right to decide if Ellie should be sacrificed for the cure?
He never explained what gave Joel the right to make that choice. He just thinks it was his decision only for some reason.
Then when it was brought to his attention that Ellie wanted to do it in the first game he said she was too young so she couldn’t make that choice. So it wasn’t her decision, despite her being ridiculously mature for her age.
When it was brought to his attention that a much older Ellie still wanted to do it, he ignored that. It’s still Joel’s decision only for some reason.
When it was brought to his attention that Marlene has watched over her since she was born as a promise to her mother. And even she realized it needed to be done. He Juelz’d his way into saying it’s still on Joel.
not really, your whole position was silly and contradicting so I got tired of going back and forth with you and once it came out that you never actually played the games....I didn't see a point to it anymore.
If you wanna call that a "win", do you breh
See this is the type of shyt that I don’t understand with you nikkaz on here
you saying I was posting silly and contradictions stuff : When you damn sure know you was the one who said Marlene was Ellie guardian and giving by her mother to take care of her .... and I prove to you that shyt was completely wrong
the pre-quill of left behind which clearly states Marlene just met Ellie for the 1st time when she arrived at that Boston boarding school & they never really had a relationship
And I didn’t even come at you on some sideways/slick shyt .... even the other poster that agreed with you originally replied and saluted me and said he didn’t realize - which I expect any reasonable person would do
That clown who said I didn’t play any of them games was salty because he can’t debate me
as i said ... i played LB & TLOU and watched the full walk though of TLOU2
So the doctor didn't have the right to take her life, Ellie didn't have the right to risk her life, but Joel who barely knows her and just met her a few months prior has the right to decide what happens to her?
Not even Marlene....who is her ACTUAL guardian, and was basically given Ellie by her mother to watch over her, she doesn't have the right either. But Joel, a random dude is the only person who can decide her fate.
Makes perfect sense
I mean "rights" in the context of the world they live in can get pretty complicated. This is a world where no one would bat an eye at a teenage making adult choices because kids gotta mature rather quickly or die.
@kingofnyc
The fireflies were not owed a immune kid so they could do test on, but what they were doing was understandable in the context of the situation they were in.
Quite frankly, rather or not they had the right to take her life is irrelevant to the story in the game. From the perspective of Abby, her father was the fireflies best chance for a cure and his team of doctors were killed by the man they hired to deliver Ellie. In the first game, throughout nearly half of the game Ellie is just a payday to Joel. From the fireflies perspective, he could have taken ellie for multiple reasons, what if he took her cause he felt he could get more somewhere else for an immune kid?
Abby doesn't know the reasons behind Joel's actions. To her, Joel's just a scumbag who reneged on a deal and slaughtered a bunch of doctors working on a cure. That's a damn good reason to want to beat his ass to death from her POV, whether or not her father had the right to take ellie's life doesn't matter, Abby's reaction to Joel made sense considering what he did FROM SOMEONE ELSE'S PERSPECTIVE.
well it started off with the whole premise of this game by Neil Druckman ... the premise obviously is a revenge story
which my question was
Abby really doesn’t have a right to want revenge because Joel didn’t kill Abby father ... Abby father killed himself
dose Abby father have the right to take Ellie life ?
It’s a simple yes or a simple no
but ... these dudes on here, don’t wanna say the correct answer because it hurts the premise of this game
No
Yes she does, again Abby doesn't know the reason Joel killed her father, all she knows is that her father was murdered by a shady dude named Joel who got paid to have Ellie delivered who then reneged on the deal and killed everyone.
Abby's reasons for revenge makes perfect sense from her perspective