The Last of Us Part II | PS4 | June 19th (NO OPEN SPOILERS)

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Break this down I'm a newcomer. I played and beat MGS2 though.
Neil originally worked on TLOU2 with Bruce (former game director at ND who worked on TLOU & UC4 w/ Neil) and a bunch of other people but over 70% of ND's developers left
Neil eventually got a new writer from Westworld who worked on the last season I believe and got new devs
A couple of years ago Neil went from saying they would do right by fans when Bruce was there to saying the story would divide the fanbase
Divide the fanbase it did
This tells me Neil went with his original revenge plot for TLOU, which was canned by Bruce, and that the original intended story for Part 2 was canned
Abby was a conception in Neil's mind for a while after that and he always wanted to tell a revenge story
He decided to experiment a bit with Part 2 with more of a overarching message (toll of revenge and forgiveness) and telling the other side via Abby
The leaks fukked up the surprise for many but they were inaccurate in fine details (e.g. Abby being trans)
There are who people love , people who were meh, and people who hate what Neil did
There is backlash w/ the typical :mjpls: crowd who sent death threats and always complain about SJW this and that
But the backlash also includes people who did not like how the story is executed or are not impressed by the story
You are in the latter
Like MGS2, Abby was never advertised like Raiden was never advertised and was a surprise
ND even replaced a scene w/ Jessie with Joel's character model
"You thought I was gonna make you do this on your own"
Joel dies within the first 30 min :mjlol:
You also play as Abby like you play as Raiden
But MGS2 doesn't have Raiden kill off Snake, especially in a controversial way that many people feel contradicts the character's tendencies (I'm Tommy, that's my brother Joel :mjlol:, sounds like you heard of us before?:mjlol:no shyt you killed the cure doctor and fukked the fireflies up. all the years of wisdom down the drain. went from saying don't give out your real name to giving out his social security number:mjlol:), then force you to play as Raiden for the rest of the game and most likely series.
There is also another part of the story I feel a way about but I don't want to spoil that :mjgrin:
Great game, divisive story
 
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Neil originally worked on TLOU2 with Bruce (former game director at ND who worked on TLOU & UC4 w/ Neil) and a bunch of other people but over 70% of ND's developers left
Neil eventually got a new writer from Westworld who worked on the last season I believe and got new devs
A couple of years ago Neil went from saying they would do right by fans when Bruce was there to saying the story would divide the fanbase
Divide the fanbase it did
This tells me Neil went with his original revenge plot for TLOU, which was canned by Bruce, and that the original intended story for Part 2 was canned
Abby was a conception in Neil's mind for a while after that and he always wanted to tell a revenge story
He decided to experiment a bit with Part 2 with more of a overarching message (toll of revenge and forgiveness) and telling the other side via Abby
The leaks fukked up the surprise for many but they were inaccurate in fine details (e.g. Abby being trans)
There are who people love , people who were meh, and people who hate what Neil did
There is backlash w/ the typical :mjpls: crowd who sent death threats and always complain about SJW this and that
But the backlash also includes people who did not like how the story is executed or are not impressed by the story
You are in the latter
Like MGS2, Abby was never advertised like Raiden was never advertised and was a surprise
ND even replaced a scene w/ Jessie with Joel's character model
Joel dies within the first 30 min :mjlol:
You also play as Abby like you play as Raiden
But MGS2 doesn't have Raiden kill off Snake, especially in a controversial way that many people feel contradicts the character's tendencies (I'm Tommy, that's my brother Joel :mjlol:, sounds like you heard of us before?:mjlol:no shyt you killed the cure doctor and fukked the fireflies up. all the years of wisdom down the drain. went from saying don't give out your real name to giving out his social security number:mjlol:), then force you to play as Raiden for the rest of the game and most likely series.
There is also another part of the story I feel a way about but I don't want to spoil that :mjgrin:
Great game, divisive story

Gotcha. Yea i remember Raiden poppin up like wtf even though i didn't mind playing as him. I'm just going to keep grindin. I'll be back after i finish.

Oh and i'm :mjlol: looking at Abbie. She wild brolic. She two pieced a zombie to death :mjlol:
 
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Gotcha. Yea i remember Raiden poppin up like wtf even though i didn't mind playing as him. I'm just going to keep grindin. I'll be back after i finish.

Oh and i'm :mjlol: looking at Abbie. She wild brolic. She two pieced a zombie to death :mjlol:
You're gonna have fun w/ Abby. Beating the living shyt out of people and beating zombies to death :mjlol:
Strong as fukk :mjlol:
 

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I'm up to the part where you switch characters and i don't really feel like playing with her. I keep killing myself periodically on purpose. I just jump off a building here and there.


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It gets better.
 

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What a game. If you can even call it that. Monumental. Might change the way games are made in the future.

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was expecting you to come in here with the :stopitslime: after finishing it based on your other comments, story def ain’t for everyone, but I’m happy you enjoyed it breh it’s a great game and picked apart way too much imo
 

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was expecting you to come in here with the :stopitslime: after finishing it based on your other comments, story def ain’t for everyone, but I’m happy you enjoyed it breh it’s a great game and picked apart way too much imo
I beat pt. 1 and then jumped right in to pt. 2 so i was invested in Ellie and Joel's survival so naturally it was hard to empathize with Abbie but towards the end i understood the overall theme of consequences and outcomes of revenge.

I want to go through this thread before i share more of my thoughts but it's motion picture status. The story and characters are better than most movies coming out of hollywood.
 
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I beat pt. 1 and then jumped right in to pt. 2 so i was invested in Ellie and Joel's survival so naturally it was hard to empathize with Abbie but towards the end i understood the overall theme of consequences and outcomes of revenge.

I want to go through this thread before i share more of my thoughts but it's motion picture status. The story and characters are better than most movies coming out of hollywood.
Despite my issues with some parts of the story, the PRODUCTION level of this game is through the roof and makes me very excited to see where ND and the other first party Sony studios can take video games
Their next game will be a motion picture
They are working on a sci fi game
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Imagine this in motion w/ ND behind it
 

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Despite my issues with some parts of the story, the PRODUCTION level of this game is through the roof and makes me very excited to see where ND and the other first party Sony studios can take video games
Their next game will be a motion picture
They are working on a sci fi game
john-sweeney-robot-1-small.jpg


john-sweeney-robot-4-c.jpg


john-sweeney-bonus-image-2-final-small.jpg

Imagine this in motion w/ ND behind it
:whoo:
 
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