For all the Pippen hate, MJ woulda punched Phil in the face had he drawn up a play for Kukoc while on that team. What about all lebron failures that show him as soft but he still number 1 or 2 all-time! Man dude is squirrel's, got nuts stockpiled!
The Last Dance made Scottie Pippen look like such a bytch ass nikka
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Pip is what you get when you take the comparable talent and physical gifts comparable to Michael Jordan and remove the mental toughness and psychotic will to win.
The season he had to be the number 1 option went well in a general sense and he could have gotten even more comfortable in that role. But as you can see, there is that extra little something that takes you from being good, great on to extraordinary. The times he showed his mental weakness in comparison to his gifts shows you exactly why MJ is the GOAT because most players, even ones superbly talented are gonna fall into the same groove in those situations.
The season he had to be the number 1 option went well in a general sense and he could have gotten even more comfortable in that role. But as you can see, there is that extra little something that takes you from being good, great on to extraordinary. The times he showed his mental weakness in comparison to his gifts shows you exactly why MJ is the GOAT because most players, even ones superbly talented are gonna fall into the same groove in those situations.
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Even though there is no one play I hate more in basketball than the charge, this post is facts.
On the surface that sounds like a reasonable thing to say but not really.
On Mike's end...he was tryin to win at all fukking costs, if Phil told him their best chance to win was to draw defense and let Toni knock down a shot he's already hit before, he'd do it. He did it with Pax and Kerr, two far lesser players so why not the euro MJ? He wasn't threatened by Kukoc, Pip was.
The play being drawn up for Toni hurt his feelings, not only because he wanted to prove himself like MJ but because the opportunity to do so, went to someone who it seems like Krause was trying to talk up and replace Scottie with. Had it been for one of the lesser players he would have been good ole unselfish Pip that everybody loves. He got presented with a situation that tested his internal fortitude and he failed.
The 2011 Finals is an anomaly I already pointed that out and said that's the only year you can name. It was the last year of Wade's prime and the offensive hiearchy and team chemistry hadn't been established yet. D-Wade also sucked against Chicago in the 2011 ECF averaged 18 points on 40% FG and 5 turnovers a game but I bet you didn't know that. 2011 is the only year you can point to and I already said that.
What happened with Wade and Bosh in 2012, 2013, 2014? Name all the times that Wade and/or Bosh outscored LeBron then
LeBron and AD haven't competed in the playoffs yet.
Yeah, Kyrie averaged 27 that's what he does score. That's his role on the team to get buckets and he did that at a high level in that series. Scottie's role on the team was to be a secondary scorer, primary playmaker, and primary defender. Maybe he didn't average 27 points per game but he did average 21/9/7 through the first 3-Peat and was the primary defender on the likes of Magic Johnson in the Finals.
I mean you don't really think Kyrie Irving is a better overall basketball player than Scottie Pippen right?
This argument overall is stupid as fukk they played in different eras and their rosters were constructed around their team systems and their strengths and weaknesses. MJ had Scottie and he was perfect for the Triangle offense and Doberman defense. LeBron doesn't need a player like Pippen. He needs a scoring big man or guard next to him. Scottie is what MJ needed, LeBron needs a little more offensive support playing in this era, especially facing a team like the Warriors.
The person I quoted said it was common for LeBron's teammates to take over and outscore him no it was not.
Where is everyone scoring averages in a Lebron Centric offense? Extremely low cause they standing around waiting to be spoon fed after he get his points, then assist (dude is stat padding). So he gets his then give you yours which makes him look all world.
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Dude's just putting Pip down to build up their low self esteem. There's a thread where people are going in on Tim Duncan like he don't have 5 rings . They sound ridiculous to me. Like what's going on in your life where you just randomly clowning Scottie Pippen
Where was Mike's Mental toughness when he was getting Skull drug by the Pistons? Still crying about that shyt but when he drag his team he's made them tough? I guess he owes all his success to Isiah and the Pistons?
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For sure, dude wasn’t mentally up for it. Each time he had to lead, he did something that showed he couldn’t. I don’t deny that at all. It’s one of the reasons he overrated to me.
He also wasn’t a good enough scorer to be the man on a championship team.
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Don’t see how pippen was depicted horribly
literally everything they showed pertaining to him in the doc happened.
He got props for gutting out game 6 while injured and how he was the teammate everyone loved while Jordan ripped cats to shreds and bullied people. Pip had back surgery after his rookie season it was something with his discs so he signed that wakk contract for security.Then bytched when he Outplayed it dude has no reason to be bitter he’s called the greatest defender ever and the og point forward stop cryin no trippin pippen
literally everything they showed pertaining to him in the doc happened.
He got props for gutting out game 6 while injured and how he was the teammate everyone loved while Jordan ripped cats to shreds and bullied people. Pip had back surgery after his rookie season it was something with his discs so he signed that wakk contract for security.Then bytched when he Outplayed it dude has no reason to be bitter he’s called the greatest defender ever and the og point forward stop cryin no trippin pippen
So we're just gonna act like Pippen wasn't a great player for his time? He's a top two defender ever at his position, while being quite good offensively, and being the Bull's primary playmaker. Let's all collectively get our heads' out of our asses' and stop downplaying how great he was.
The fact that you nikkas are talking down on a top five SF of all-time to big up MJ as a counterpoint to some perceived "stan overrating" is ridiculous.
Edit: Love and Kyrie will be in the hall because of LeBron.
