The Kamala Harris pick is about to cause the media to gear up another attack on the ADOS movement

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come at her about her politics but making this about whether she is black enough is idiotic and very shallow. this is the same thing they did back in the day to create division and sow distrust between house and field slaves. good thing is most black people don't fall for that bullshyt anymore.

This.

She's not one of us, but, that has nothing to do with the ethnicity of her mom, dad or husband.
 

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Because the entire selling point of her is her race...They wanted a "black woman" as VP and think they're slick picking someone 25% black with a white family (husband and kids)

And this is the key issue. She is being marketed as "black" in order to win our support when in fact, her heritage is majority Indian/South Asian (on both her maternal and paternal sides).

There really is no need to misrepresent her background.

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I didn't say anything inherently anti immigrant at all. I said ADOS is a distinct ethnic group just like the distinct African and Caribbean ethnic groups that exist. If you take that as anti-immigrant I don't know what to tell you :manny:
My bad bro your right I’m confusing you with someone else
 

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Why is the detail about her ancestry important right now?

This topic reveals the difference between people who understand what power means and those who don't.

I paraphrased the Nas line recently in a thread about Booker T. Washington, and it applies here

Queens dudes AAs run you dudes Obama/Harris, ask Russell Simmons Valerie/Desiree.

The king makers or queen makers in both cases were individuals and groups that are solidly African American. They vetted , cosigned, and will have a hand in steering these nonAA candidates. The candidate winning the election promotes THEIR directives and agendas and validates and increases their power moving forward. Kings come and go, king makers remain.

Also, the people in those organizations know and respect their ethnic and family cultures from the time they are children. They weren't grown men suddenly discovering ethnic pride on the cue of a Youtuber. Pride and knowledge of who they are and the history of their people here is something they learned from their families. As you pointed about before, some of them can trace the name, date of arrival and ethnicity of their first African ancestors who set foot in the 13 colonies. Ethnic and family pride is what gives them the foundation to go out in the world and continue the legacy of achievement. Ethnic pride should be a reserve of strength to propel people forward.
Grown men who are new to the concept of ethnic pride seem to only mention it when discussing Africans/Islanders. Never as a source of strength to push themselves forward and achieve.


The Valerie Jarrets and Desiree Rogers of the world are aware of who is who, and what Obama and Harris' origins are. Members of these groups have married and absorbed Africans and Caribbeans, as have many Black organizations and families. I mean, the composer of the Negro National Anthem, James Weldon Johnson, was half Caribbean.
These Black organizations and power brokers are trying to improve conditions for Black people. They are the ones who wield the power. The ethnic heritage of the VP candidate that they support factors very little in their drive to get access to the govt. resources to help the community. The big picture.
 
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I peeped the twitters of Pinky and the Brain (Tone and Yvette) and they are big mad. They are not even trying to hide their anti black immigrant hatred behind the guise of reparations.

It's full on hate.

They don't want us running for office, going to universities, acting in movies or television etc. I honestly believe, If they had their way, black immigrants and their descendants would be treated like Jews in Nazi germany. No cap.
 

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She is being marketed as "black" in order to win our support

To win whose support?

Because she already has the support of the HBCU/National Pan Hellenic Council/Black Civic & Social black professional conglomerates, not based off of her "blackness" but based solely off her affiliations alone.

So take out that group.

So "blackness" is being marketed to whom?
 

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This isn't internet punditry this is the effect hundreds of years of systematic oppression bubbling up to the surface. Stop trying to invalidate this movement.

Maybe long term but for the next few months it will be punditry breh. :manny:

Take the win even if it means tap dancing for Trump :smugfavre:
 

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Breh. Trump is a white American and is neither a descendant of Plymouth Rock or Jamestown.

No white people ever anywhere have made a gripe about Trump's lack of ethnic white colonial Americaness or have said they were not voting for him because he wasn't a descendant of someone that sat in the House of Burgess.

Black people are not losing their dignity. The ADOS party would be losing its dignity if they decide to dig in their heals just because people are trying to get on code. Maintaining your ego means you lie with the devil at this point.

Nobody is telling ADOS to give up on their strategy. But you do have to pivot your strategy now that you see your movement is being co-opted. Just like those black businessmen did at the turn of the 19th century. They eventually got to Liberia and Sierra Leone. But they had to change their tactics because getting on code was more important.
Good point. Trump is out here saying Make America Great and yet his ancestors weren’t even here when America was so called “great.” None of these whites call him out on it either. They dont even call out Melania for not knowing English.
 

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And this is the key issue. She is being marketed as "black" in order to win our support when in fact, her heritage is majority Indian/South Asian (on both her maternal and paternal sides).

There really is no need to misrepresent her background.

im-121426
It doesn’t seem like they force South Asians to support her as much as black people are expected to.
 

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what's your point? hbcus and black sororities are melting pots of black experiences from other black folk from all across the country.
Black immigrants benefit more from that networking system than most black Americans

Thats the point
 

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To win whose support?

Because she already has the support of the HBCU/National Pan Hellenic Council/Black Civic & Social black professional conglomerates, not based off of her "blackness" but based solely off her affiliations alone.

So take out that group.

So "blackness" is being marketed to whom?

There are plenty of black folks who have no idea who those groups are and what they represent.
 
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