The “Islamic Dilemma” conversation on PIERS MORGAN?

[Hov]

All translations have biases and small changes makes big differences in how people interpret the text.

Christianity is an offshoot. No Judaism, then no Jesus, then no Christianity.
And no, religion was created for people to understand the world around them prior to the advancement in science.

All of the bolded is complete nonsense without a lick of empirical evidence

Again, you’re saying what you’ve heard not you have studied.

What’s up with people having so much ego, instead of asking direct questions and fact checking the answer you just say uncontextual statements and offer no real data or teachings??

 

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I see @Sccit has joined the thread

We’re about to do numbers

@merklman has gone into hiding since @Hov put him in his place

 

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Most Christians use the Bible as an instruction book just like Muslims use the Quran. Only difference is that the Muslims don't have thousands of different denominations and translations subtly changing meanings and context in their book, and they really don't hide from awfulness in their book like I see apologetics do.

True “Christians” use the “holy spirit” to lead them.

And there’s no such thing as “denominations”

Somethings you just can’t understand from the out side looking in.

And again I ask where’s the “awfulness” in the life and teachings of Jesus?

What “book” are you referring to that is “awful”.

The part where it says:

“love your enemies” or “turn the other cheek” or “those with sin cast the first stone”

I already debunked your YouTube videos from the last thread about Jesus.

When are you going to abandon this argument

Your issue is with mainstream “fake Christians” and religious extremists NOT Jesus followers

But the REAL question is “WHO ARE YOU”?

How did you get the moral high ground?

You don't identify as “Christian” (or any religion).

Fine with me.

I don’t judge you

But you’re STILL most likely just as bad as those Christians you are attacking in your own way.

Only difference is you don’t have forgiveness

 

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LMAOOOOOO


MORE IDIOCY

THE JEWS WHO GOVERNED THE LAND WERE KICKED OUT AND SENT INTO EXILE BY THE ROMANS

THEY DIDNT "STAY AND FORMED PALESTINE"

ROFL

THERE WAS NEVER A NATION CALLED PALESTINE

JUST ADMIT ALL THIS IS NEW TO U AND U LEARNIN ON THE FLY HOMIE

I guess all the maps that call that area Palestine is a fabrication?

 

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True “Christians” use the “holy spirit” to lead them.

And there’s no such thing as “denominations”

Somethings you just can’t understand from the out side looking in.

And again I ask where’s the “awfulness” in the life and teachings of Jesus?

What “book” are you referring to that is “awful”.

The part where it says:

“love your enemies” or “turn the other cheek” or “those with sin cast the first stone”

I already debunked your YouTube videos from the last thread about Jesus.

When are you going to abandon this argument

Your issue is with mainstream “fake Christians” and religious extremists NOT Jesus followers

But the REAL question is “WHO ARE YOU”?

How did you get the moral high ground?

You don't identify as “Christian” (or any religion).

Fine with me.

I don’t judge you

But you’re STILL most likely just as bad as those Christians you are attacking in your own way.

Only difference is you don’t have forgiveness

What did you debunk?

1 Timothy 6:1-2

1 All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God’s name and our teaching may not be slandered. 2 Those who have believing masters should not show them disrespect just because they are fellow believers. Instead, they should serve them even better because their masters are dear to them as fellow believers and are devoted to the welfare of their slaves.

 

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So there's an Islamic dilemma but not a Jewish or Christian one dilemma..

 

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What did you debunk?

1 Timothy 6:1-2

1 All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God’s name and our teaching may not be slandered. 2 Those who have believing masters should not show them disrespect just because they are fellow believers. Instead, they should serve them even better because their masters are dear to them as fellow believers and are devoted to the welfare of their slaves.

I can tell you used to be a Hebrew Israelite breh

“Where was white Jesus when we were in chains” street corner type babble

Even though race based slavery isn’t what this verse refers to, the bible laws that Israel was supposed to abide by do show the punishment for owning another human

And God wouldn’t eradicate Slavery from the face of the earth because humans created it and are bad people who take advantage of their slaves

We have free will. It’s all part of life

No sugarcoating

And the book of Timothy shows slavery (albeit a different type) was a fact of life back then during that time even Christians had to endure

You’re quoting a historical document

What’s your point?
Still waiting on you to Quote Jesus.

 

[Sccit]

I guess all the maps that call that area Palestine is a fabrication?

ONCE AGAIN, IT WASNT A SOVEREIGN NATION... WHO WAS THE PRESIDENT? PRIME MINISTER? KING? IT WAS A NAME GIVEN TO THE REGION WHICH WAS RULED BY MULTIPLE DIFFERENT NATIONS...

YOU ARE MAKING IT MORE AND MORE EVIDENT THAT THIS IS ALL VERY NEW TO YOU

 

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So there's an Islamic dilemma but not a Jewish or Christian one dilemma..

Nope because the Islamic dilemma proves Christianity (the Gospel) and the Judaism (the Torah) to be true

The dilemma only applies to Muslims because they think the religious before Islam were corrupted.

Atheists can come up with their own arguments against Judaism and Christianity, but a Muslim cannot, otherwise they aren’t a Muslim anymore.

And Jews can say Jesus isn’t the Messiah… but Christians are technically Jews too so

 

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ONCE AGAIN, IT WASNT A SOVEREIGN NATION... WHO WAS THE PRESIDENT? PRIME MINISTER? KING? IT WAS A NAME GIVEN TO THE REGION WHICH WAS RULED BY MULTIPLE DIFFERENT NATIONS...

YOU ARE MAKING IT MORE AND MORE EVIDENT THAT THIS IS ALL VERY NEW TO YOU

One thing I learned from interactions with @2 Up 2 Down is:

The more common sense you come at him with, the more dumb and disinterested he pretends to be.

Hence the vague one sentence replies

Don’t fall into the bait. He knows you are right but will never admit it.

 

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Again, you’re saying what you’ve heard not you have studied.

What’s up with people having so much ego, instead of asking direct questions and fact checking the answer you just say uncontextual statements and offer no real data or teachings??

Biblegateway.com you can look at all the differences for yourself

 

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ONCE AGAIN, IT WASNT A SOVEREIGN NATION... WHO WAS THE PRESIDENT? PRIME MINISTER? KING? IT WAS A NAME GIVEN TO THE REGION WHICH WAS RULED BY MULTIPLE DIFFERENT NATIONS...

YOU ARE MAKING IT MORE AND MORE EVIDENT THAT THIS IS ALL VERY NEW TO YOU

The land was called Palestine. The Jews there called it that when the Romans left and people called it Palestine for 1700+ years.

 

[Sccit]

The land was called Palestine. The Jews there called it that when the Romans left and people called it Palestine for 1700+ years.

THE JEWS STILL CALLED IT ISRAEL, EVEN AFTER THE ROMAN INVADERS CAME THROUGH AND GAVE IT THE COLONIAL NAME "PALESTINE"

 

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I can tell you used to be a Hebrew Israelite breh

“Where was white Jesus when we were in chains” street corner type babble

Even though race based slavery isn’t what this verse refers to, the bible laws that Israel was supposed to abide by do show the punishment for owning another human

And God wouldn’t eradicate Slavery from the face of the earth because humans created it and are bad people who take advantage of their slaves

We have free will. It’s all part of life

No sugarcoating

And the book of Timothy shows slavery (albeit a different type) was a fact of life back then during that time even Christians had to endure

You’re quoting a historical document

What’s your point?
Still waiting on you to Quote Jesus.

YHWH condone slavery. I thought you wanted me to point out the awfulness in the Bible?

Ephesians 6:5-8

5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.




Historical document, huh?

Exodus 24:9-12

9 Then Moses went up [a]with Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, 10 and they saw the God of Israel; and under His feet there appeared to be a pavement of sapphire, [c]as clear as the sky itself. 11 Yet He did not reach out with His hand against the nobles of the sons of Israel; and they saw God, and they ate and drank.

12 Now the Lord said to Moses, “Come up to Me on the mountain and [d]stay there, and I will give you the stone tablets [e]with the Law and the [f]commandments which I have written for their instruction.”

you believe that actually happened?

 

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THE JEWS STILL CALLED IT ISRAEL, EVEN AFTER THE ROMAN INVADERS CAME THROUGH AND GAVE IT THE COLONIAL NAME "PALESTINE"

Some did and others called it Palestine. Prior to the Kingdom of Israel they called it Canaan.
Canaanites, Israelites, (early)Palestinians; they were all the same people only separated by cultural practices/religion.