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In related news… the Mahdi is here!

New update to Islam

New Manmade ruler for a Manmade religion

@merklman will you bow to your new leader?

Notice this guy mentioned Paul in his speech :mjlol:

Paul really is the biggest threat to you non Christians

@2 Up 2 Down this is the cult your should be worried about


WTF is this? These are Ahmadiyyas? Yeah you need to go do some research into different muslim sects. These are some strange tiny minority. This is like me posting KKK videos and saying they are your leaders, you dumb MFer :dead:

So, which version of the bible do you recommend me reading as the one, true source of unequivocal truth and the word of god?:mjgrin: Are you able to answer this yet?
 

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Do you understand what the hadiths are? Do you know how many different books there are? And how many years after the prophets lifetime they were wriiten? The particular you and the paedophile sccit are jumping on, is generally considered to have a good chain of custody - however it is a single source which is not seen as highly as a multiple source account (ie. i told you something directly, vs i told the 1000 folks in conference, so 1000 people can attest to the same account, same source). For this reason it's contested, especially as other quotes around the topic even in Bukhari contradict the timeline, as well as the other hadith books :gucci:. The hadith are essentially the New Testament, they are known to have some weak transmissions and definitely contradictions :mjgrin:. That cannot be said of the Quran :manny:

So are you “Quran only”?

As in anything NOT in the Quran isn’t commanded by God and therefore NOT foundational to your religion?

Christians don’t consider anything in the New Testament a verbatim word of God

It’s a historical account of Jesus life and the early church

The prophetic parts require belief and faith but can’t be proven true historically

That’s a big difference between how modern Muslims formulate their beliefs vs how Christians today do
 

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So when Isaiah 53 describes a “suffering servant” who is rejected by his people, silent before his accusers, pierced for our transgressions, and buried in a rich man’s tomb, that’s on record long before Jesus walked the earth.

But the question i need you to answer is: How did that happen?
Missionaries misleadingly assert that the entire chapter 53 of the book of Isaiah refers to Jesus as the “Suffering Servant” of God who dies for the sins of the world. Someone could easily be fooled to believe this argument if Isaiah is read out of context and without a proper translation. At this point, take out a Tanach and turn to Isaiah 52 and read straight through 53, then proceed further:

If you read the text correctly, Isaiah is clearly telling us how the nations of the world will react when they witness the future messianic-redemption of the Jewish people. (Throughout the book of Isaiah, the Jewish people are referred to as the “Servant of G-d” and in the singular, e.g. Isaiah 41:8, Isaiah 49:3). First, they will be astonished, literally covering their mouths at what they see, because they never believed that they would witness the glorious redemption of a persecuted, rejected and despised Israel – which they themselves persecuted! Then, they will try to understand why this newly exalted Israel suffered so much. Originally they believed it was because G-d had rejected the Jews. Now that they see that this is not true, they will say that the suffering was the result of the transgressions of the nations (themselves) who persecuted the Jewish people.

While it is useful to share the entire chapter with the students, if time is of the essence the major mistranslations to focus on are these two:

1.“He [Israel] was wounded because of (מ) our [the nations] transgression.” (Isaiah 53:5). In this verse the Hebrew letter (מ) means “because of” or “from.” It is never translated as “for” which would incorrectly indicate a vicarious atonement.

2. “For the transgression of my people they (למו) were stricken.” (Isaiah 53:8). The word they (למו) is plural (see Psalm 99:7) and clearly indicates that this verse does not refer to a single individual.

Another important detail to point out is that his chapter does not clearly identify Jesus of Nazareth. Even if we take the approach that the chapter does speak of Messiah, it could just as easily apply to anyone in history who suffered. How about Moses, Rabbi Akiva, Rabbi Chaninah Ben Tradyon, Jews in the Holocaust, etc? The entire application to Jesus by missionaries is based on faith, but when carefully scrutinized it doesn’t prove anything.

One other point to emphasize, if you have time. In Matthew 16, we see that Jesus himself does not claim to be Messiah. Jesus asks his disciples, “Who do you think I am?” One answers “Elijah,” another, that he is John the Baptist. Peter thinks he is the Messiah. However, when Jesus then says that he must go up to Jerusalem, be killed, and resurrected on the third day. Peter rebukes him “God forbid it, lord, this shall never happen to you.

One may ask “Why does Peter need to rebuke Jesus?” If, indeed he is the promised messiah, then Peter, no doubt familiar with Isaiah 53, should have had no problem. Yet, since neither he, nor any other apostle of Jesus knew of any strange concept of Messiah suffering, dying, and being resurrected, they did not see Isaiah 53 as being a definitive passage containing information defining the “suffering servant” and vicarious atonement role of Messiah.

what jewish messianism is. Pretty lengthy so I won't quote


"But thou, Israel, My servant..." (Isaiah 41:8)[5]
"Ye are My witnesses, saith the LORD, and My servant whom I have chosen..." (Isaiah 43:10)[5]
"By oppression and judgment he was taken away, and with his generation who did reason? for he was cut off out of the land of the living, for the transgression of my people to whom the stroke was due..." (Isaiah 53:8)
"Of the travail of his soul he shall see to the full, even My servant..." (Isaiah 53:11)


Jews (Jesus and his apostles) would've understood that the suffering servant is meant to be Israel
Is it true (as Christians claim) that Jews at the time of the destruction of the Second Temple believed that Isaiah 53 spoke of a suffering messiah who was to die as an atonement for the sins of others and then be resurrected? Let's find out.

Answer: A number of interpretations as to the identity of the "suffering servant" and what he was to accomplish may have been current during the Second Temple period. However, there is no evidence to support the Christian contention that the interpretation of the servant as the suffering messiah later adopted by the followers of Jesus was one of them.

The Gospels themselves provide evidence that no such understanding of the passage existed prior to the crucifixion. For example, what did Jesus' disciples believe? After Peter acknowledges Jesus as the Messiah (Matthew 16:16), he is informed that Jesus will be killed (Matthew 16:21). Rather than acknowledging this as the prophetic fate of the Messiah he responds: "God forbid it, lord! This shall never happen to you." He would never have said this if he thought Jesus was the fulfillment of a supposedly centuries old prophetic interpretation of Isaiah 53 that coincides with that now found in Christianity.

As for Jesus himself, he requests that God "remove the cup from me" (Mark 14:36), that is, the humiliation, suffering, and death he is about to undergo? Obviously he didn't know that this is why he supposedly came to earth and that the travail he is about to undertake is allegedly the fulfillment of Isaiah 53. It is clear that a removal of "the cup" would destroy what Christian's would later claim is God's plan for mankind's redemption.

Did Jesus offer a prayer that he knew to be nothing but an empty gesture on his part?

Jesus supposedly taught the disciples to understand the Scriptures as referring to himself as the Messiah, the Suffering Servant, who was to arise from the dead after dying as an atonement for mankind's sins. Teaching about a suffering messianic figure who dies for other people's sins some Christian's claim was standard Jewish interpretation until the rabbis supposedly corrupted the true teaching to hide that Jesus fulfilled Isaiah 53.

However, when Jesus "was teaching his disciples and telling them, 'The Son of Man is to be delivered up into the hands of men, and they will kill him; and when he has been killed, he will rise again three days later" (Mark 9:31) we are told "they did not understand this statement" (Mark 9:32). This was obviously a concept that was unfamiliar to them.

The news of Jesus' death brings a reaction of "mourning and weeping" (Mark 16:10) from Jesus' disciples. "And when they heard that he was alive . . . they refused to believe it" (Mark 16:11). John explains, "For as yet they did not understand the Scripture, that he must rise again from the dead" (John 20:9). The disciples reaction is not what would be expected if they saw events as fulfillment of Isaiah 53.

One would expect that if there were any first century C.E. Jews who were familiar with the interpretation of Isaiah 53 espoused by present-day Christians, that it would have been Jesus and his followers. Yes, there are New Testament anachronisms that attribute such teachings to Jesus. Yet, we find instances where Jesus and/or his followers express themselves in a manner that runs counter to this new Christian interpretation.

It is apparent from the Gospels that before and for sometime after the crucifixion Jesus' own disciples didn't view Isaiah 53 as referring to a suffering messiah who would die for the sins of the people and then be resurrected. It was only in the post-crucifixion period that these notions developed among the followers of Jesus. There is simply no evidence that this was a Jewish interpretation of the passage. The Question remains as to who are the Jews contemporary with Jesus that supposedly held to what has become the present Christian understanding of the meaning of Isaiah 53? They simply cannot be identified because they never existed
 
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Nah, you're wrong on this

Because scholars tried to say the Hebrew text said "like a lone are my hands and feet" and that sounds like the end all be all right?

but there's a divine problem

The Septuagint - that predates Christ existence and is verifiedn- uses the Greek word ōryxan which literally means "they pierced" nowhere close to "like a lion"...so that means 200 years before this happened, the Jews reading Septaugint read it as "they pierced his hands and feet". The Dead sea scrolls which predate everything confirm this.

The truth is stranger than fiction my G.

And do NOT believe what I say or type. Go look it up right now
:hubie: I just used your suggested translation and it included that footnote

I'll look further into it

in looking forward I read these. I'll just post the links rather than include links

 
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The so called expert having to run to CHAT GPT and Gemini :dead:

You are a special case, you literally had no idea that jews existed in Spain yesterday, and were saved by the MUSLIM MOORs when they were expelled from spain. Additionally, you didnt even know "Sephardi" literally translates to Spain in English. The levels of stupidity in you are actually off the chain. Do you even realise the above screenshot with the breakdown adds up to >100%? The Mizrahi number (50%) combines Mizrahi and Sephardic . . Ie. subtract 20%, would infer there's around 30% Mizrahi's. . . What is the % of Ashkenazis? Your friend CHAT GPT says 30-40%:dead: You dumb paedophile motherfukker :mjlol:

Like i said, you manage to make yourself look dumber with every subsequent post. I would advise you to take the L and walk away, but this is rather entertaining watching you make a fool of yourself - so please, carry on:mjgrin:


THIS IS HOW YOU SON YOURSELF

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Mizrahi Jews traditionally spoke Judeo-Arabic — a language blending Hebrew and a local Arabic dialect. While a number of Sephardic Jews in the Middle East and North Africa learned and spoke this language, they also spoke Ladino — a blend of Hebrew and Spanish. Having had no history in Spain or Portugal, Mizrahim generally did not speak Ladino.

In certain areas, where the Sephardic immigration was weak, Sephardim assimilated into the predominantly Mizrahi communities, taking on all Mizrahi traditions and retaining just a hint of Sephardic heritage — such as Spanish-sounding names. In countries such as Morocco, however, Spanish and Portuguese Jews came in droves, and the Sephardic community set up its own synagogues and schools, remaining separate from the Mizrahi community.

Diversity Within the Communities
Even within the Mizrahi and Sephardi communities, there were cultural differences from country to country. On Purim, Iraqi Jews had strolling musicians going from house to house and entertaining families (comparable to Christmas caroling), whereas Egyptian Jews closed off the Jewish quarter for a full-day festival (comparable to Mardi Gras). On Shabbat, Moroccan Jews prepared hamin(spicy meat stew), whereas Yemenite Jews prepared showeah (spicy roasted meat), among other foods.


SO IF U CLAIM I DONT KNOW WHAT SEPHARDIC JEWS ARE AND DONT KNOW SEPHARDIC HISTORY AFTER I TELL U IM PART SEPHARDIC, HOW U EXPECT ME TO TAKE ANYTHING ELSE U SAY SERIOUS?

CLEARLY IF ONE ASPECT OF YOUR POST IS BASED ON A LIE, THEN WE CAN ONLY DEDUCE THAT THE REMAINDER OF IT LACKS CREDIBILITY TOO

I DONT USE CHATGPT TO "LEARN" ABOUT THESE THINGS, SON. I USE IT AS A SOURCE TO BACK UP WHAT IM TEACHING YOU. UNLIKE U WHO JUST CLAIMS A BUNCH OF RANDOM SHIIT WIT ZERO SOURCES TO BACK IT UP....AND I USE CHATGPT BECAUSE ITS THE ULTIMATE SOURCE THAT SCANS EVERY CREDIBLE SOURCE ON THE INTERNET TO FORMULATE A RESPONSE.
 

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I think you embarrassed yourself when you displayed that you didnt know there were jews in Spain, or why they were expelled, or why they followed the Moors to Morroco, and that you had no idea what "Sephardic" meant :dead:


DNA evidence . . . try getting a DNA test in Israel - it's largely illegal, and we know why :mjgrin:.

Palestinians hold more authentic DNA to the levant than you pasty european fakkits :mjlol:


It's best you shut your phone down, you're furious and crashing out. . I dont blame you, taking L's left and right :dead:


DNA TESTS ARE NOT ILLEGAL IN ISRAEL... THEY ARE REGULATED BY THE LEGAL SYSTEM FOR THINGS SUCH AS PATERNITY TESTING ETC. AS IS THE CASE WITH MANY COUNTRIES (AUSTRIA, SWEDEN, FRANCE, GERMANY, PORTUGAL, SWITZERLAND ETC.)

JEWISH DNA HAS BEEN EXTENSIVELY RESEARCHED, THERES NO LACK OF TESTING ON JEWISH GENETICS U DUNCE

MIZRAHI JEWS SHOW SIGNIFICANT LEVELS OF LEVANT DNA AND FAR MORE ISRAELITE DNA THAN PALESTINIANS

ASHKENAZI JEWS HAVE MORE OF AN ADMIXTURE THAN MIZRAHI JEWS DUE TO BEING IN EUROPE FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, BUT STILL HAVE A GOOD SHARE OF LEVANT DNA THAT TRACES THEIR ROOTS TO THE ISRAELITES.

AGAIN, ALL FACTS... U CAN LOOK THIS UP YOURSELF. JUST AS EASILY AS U CAN LOOK UP THAT YOUR ANCESTORS WERENT MUSLIM AND THAT ARABS FORCED THE RELIGION ON BLACK PEOPLE IN NORTH AFRICA. I DONT WANT U TO HAVE AN IDENTITY CRISIS, BUT THATS SOMETHING U MIGHT WANA CONSIDER.

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WTF is this? These are Ahmadiyyas? Yeah you need to go do some research into different muslim sects. These are some strange tiny minority. This is like me posting KKK videos and saying they are your leaders, you dumb MFer :dead:

So, which version of the bible do you recommend me reading as the one, true source of unequivocal truth and the word of god?:mjgrin: Are you able to answer this yet?
B-b-b-but shouldn’t Allah guide them? He has the alleged “word of God” verbatim which claims to be perfectly clear

Jesus spoke in parables, he knew many wouldn’t receive or understand the deeper message but only those with “ears to hear” (which you obviously don’t have by the way :mjlol: )

The stories in the Torah are also very allegorical which takes interpretation and understanding

The Quran is supposed to be the clearest and final revelation for all Muslims and believers to use and it should be “guidance and light”

This guy has the same Quran you read and he’s claiming to be your Mahdi. So you need to take him seriously as a fellow Muslim. He does the shahada which makes him Muslim. These are the rules of your religion. I didn’t make them

Christians and Jews have warnings against false prophets and strict criteria

The people who wrote the Quran left the door open for figures like this guy.

But this is probably “another essay you won’t read” so carry on in your ignorance :manny:
 

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So are you “Quran only”?

As in anything NOT in the Quran isn’t commanded by God and therefore NOT foundational to your religion?

Christians don’t consider anything in the New Testament a verbatim word of God

It’s a historical account of Jesus life and the early church

The prophetic parts require belief and faith but can’t be proven true historically

That’s a big difference between how modern Muslims formulate their beliefs vs how Christians today do

I explained, and you should be able to deduce, I am (as all muslims are) quran only, and the strongest chain of hadiths. Which in my previous mail, explained the barometer on strength of such hadiths.

We all know your NT is not the word of God, it was stories written hundreds of years later by people who never knew Jesus, in a language not spoken by Jesus.
 

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B-b-b-but shouldn’t Allah guide them? He has the alleged “word of God” verbatim which claims to be perfectly clear

Jesus spoke in parables, he knew many wouldn’t receive or understand the deeper message but only those with “ears to hear” (which you obviously don’t have by the way :mjlol: )

The stories in the Torah are also very allegorical which takes interpretation and understanding

The Quran is supposed to be the clearest and final revelation for all Muslims and believers to use and it should be “guidance and light”

This guy has the same Quran you read and he’s claiming to be your Mahdi. So you need to take him seriously as a fellow Muslim. He does the shahada which makes him Muslim. These are the rules of your religion. I didn’t make them

Christians and Jews have warnings against false prophets and strict criteria

The people who wrote the Quran left the door open for figures like this guy.

But this is probably “another essay you won’t read” so carry on in your ignorance :manny:

You are now talking clown shyt, he is an Ahmadiya. Their "Mahdi" died on the shytter in the 1800s in India.

God does not disgrace prophets like this, and would never disgrace Jesus by crucifying him in the manner you hindu-christians believe:mjgrin:

I see what you've been trying to do over the last few months, by trying to claim Muslims are not monotheistic and associate them with you multigod belief-system types.

As I said before , the kkk are Christians right? You believe in the Christianity? Actually, considering you were brought to Christianity with reading of the slave bible, maybe you do support KKK types.


Please, do some research breh. You will probably revert soon :heh:
 

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THIS IS HOW YOU SON YOURSELF

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SO IF U CLAIM I DONT KNOW WHAT SEPHARDIC JEWS ARE AND DONT KNOW SEPHARDIC HISTORY AFTER I TELL U IM PART SEPHARDIC, HOW U EXPECT ME TO TAKE ANYTHING ELSE U SAY SERIOUS?

CLEARLY IF ONE ASPECT OF YOUR POST IS BASED ON A LIE, THEN WE CAN ONLY DEDUCE THAT THE REMAINDER OF IT LACKS CREDIBILITY TOO

I DONT USE CHATGPT TO "LEARN" ABOUT THESE THINGS, SON. I USE IT AS A SOURCE TO BACK UP WHAT IM TEACHING YOU. UNLIKE U WHO JUST CLAIMS A BUNCH OF RANDOM SHIIT WIT ZERO SOURCES TO BACK IT UP....AND I USE CHATGPT BECAUSE ITS THE ULTIMATE SOURCE THAT SCANS EVERY CREDIBLE SOURCE ON THE INTERNET TO FORMULATE A RESPONSE.
I'm not stalking your profile to search your post history you zionist peado fakkit.

You had plenty of chances to utter the word "Sephardic" even with multiple prompts from me you dunce :dead:

If you knew so much, why did you not mention sephardic? In my original message, deduction would actually infer I was correct that you zio scum fakkits should fukk off back to Europe, right? Because the sum of ashkeNAZI and Sephardics combine to the majority of Israeli Jews :mjgrin::dead::heh:

Go do some research you dumb ass, anti-semitic, islamophobic, paedo Zio Fakkit. I pray you stay away from children
 

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DNA TESTS ARE NOT ILLEGAL IN ISRAEL... THEY ARE REGULATED BY THE LEGAL SYSTEM FOR THINGS SUCH AS PATERNITY TESTING ETC. AS IS THE CASE WITH MANY COUNTRIES (AUSTRIA, SWEDEN, FRANCE, GERMANY, PORTUGAL, SWITZERLAND ETC.)

JEWISH DNA HAS BEEN EXTENSIVELY RESEARCHED, THERES NO LACK OF TESTING ON JEWISH GENETICS U DUNCE

MIZRAHI JEWS SHOW SIGNIFICANT LEVELS OF LEVANT DNA AND FAR MORE ISRAELITE DNA THAN PALESTINIANS

ASHKENAZI JEWS HAVE MORE OF AN ADMIXTURE THAN MIZRAHI JEWS DUE TO BEING IN EUROPE FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, BUT STILL HAVE A GOOD SHARE OF LEVANT DNA THAT TRACES THEIR ROOTS TO THE ISRAELITES.

AGAIN, ALL FACTS... U CAN LOOK THIS UP YOURSELF. JUST AS EASILY AS U CAN LOOK UP THAT YOUR ANCESTORS WERENT MUSLIM AND THAT ARABS FORCED THE RELIGION ON BLACK PEOPLE IN NORTH AFRICA. I DONT WANT U TO HAVE AN IDENTITY CRISIS, BUT THATS SOMETHING U MIGHT WANA CONSIDER.

:sas2:
Oh dear, how is it that you make yourself look dumber with every subsequent reply. This is truly an art form :mjgrin: . Ypu state a bunch of euro countries, and try to conflate them with Israels approach, but all of those countries don't ban ancestry DNA testing at home . . . . :russ::shaq:Make it impossible to do an ancestry DNA test Zio brehs :dead:. Get your court order ready fakkit :mjgrin:. Honestly, you are a legit, complete and utter moron

In 2019, The Times of Israel reported that MyHeritage DNA testing kit was not available in Israel, as the country "does not allow private genetic health screening." Similarly, Ynet news website reported in 2019: "In Israel it is forbidden to sell home kits for DNA testing. One of the leading companies in this market is MyHeritage - an Israeli company, but an Israeli who tries to order such a home kit through its website, will not find a price, or delivery options. This service is blocked for Israelis."

Israel Democracy Institute also reported that the sale of DNA testing home kits is prohibited in Israel, adding that "quite a few Israelis manage to circumvent the ban."

In 2019, Israel's Ministry of Health confirmed to Ynet that it is impossible to conduct a DNA test in Israel without a court order and that "the law does not allow the sale of such kits in Israel." However, when asked specifically about the use of ancestry kits for personal curiosity, and not for health reasons, the Ministry staff indicated that they did not recognize this type of application. It also explained that, according to the Genetic Information Law, a DNA test should only be conducted in a recognized and licensed genetic laboratory or genetic institute, and "such a thing cannot exist in kits sold directly to the public."
 
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I'm not stalking your profile to search your post history you zionist peado fakkit.

You had plenty of chances to utter the word "Sephardic" even with multiple prompts from me you dunce :dead:

If you knew so much, why did you not mention sephardic? In my original message, deduction would actually infer I was correct that you zio scum fakkits should fukk off back to Europe, right? Because the sum of ashkeNAZI and Sephardics combine to the majority of Israeli Jews :mjgrin::dead::heh:

Go do some research you dumb ass, anti-semitic, islamophobic, paedo Zio Fakkit. I pray you stay away from children


TOOK U A WEEK TO COME UP WITH THIS?

:mjlol:

ONCE AGAIN.. LEARN WHEN UR BEING TAUGHT

MOST MIZRAHIS CLASSIFY AS SEPHARDIC BECAUSE THEY USE THE SAME CUSTOMS RELIGIOUSLY

THAT MEANS A YEMENITE JEW, A MOROCCAN JEW, AN IRAQI JEW ETC ALL = SEPHARDIC

U HAVE ZERO CLUE WHAT U TALKIN BOUT
 

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TOOK U A WEEK TO COME UP WITH THIS?

:mjlol:

ONCE AGAIN.. LEARN WHEN UR BEING TAUGHT

MOST MIZRAHIS CLASSIFY AS SEPHARDIC BECAUSE THEY USE THE SAME CUSTOMS RELIGIOUSLY

THAT MEANS A YEMENITE JEW, A MOROCCAN JEW, AN IRAQI JEW ETC ALL = SEPHARDIC

U HAVE ZERO CLUE WHAT U TALKIN BOUT

I have a full time job, you fatherless zio fakkit :dead: .

You clearly cannot understand simple mathematics. I have not disagreed that Mizrahis identify as Sephardis due to customs, hence the number is around 55% of israeli jews identifying as Mizrahi/Sephardic. . . I have said the approximate proportion of actual diaspora Sephardis (ie. the ones who have roots in the iberian peninsula) is around 20-25% of Israeli jews . . .now if you add that to the 30-40% of jews in Israel who are ashkeNAZIs, you find out that the majority are Euro heritage jews (ie. 50% or more). YOU fukkING MORON :martin::mjgrin:

Why do i have to keep schooling your dumb ass? Have some shame and read a book, clown
 

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Oh dear, how is it that you make yourself look dumber with every subsequent reply. This is truly an art form :mjgrin: . Ypu state a bunch of euro countries, and try to conflate them with Israels approach, but all of those countries don't ban ancestry DNA testing at home . . . . :russ::shaq:Make it impossible to do an ancestry DNA test Zio brehs :dead:. Get your court order ready fakkit :mjgrin:. Honestly, you are a legit, complete and utter moron


ONCE AGAIN, U TINFOIL DUNCE.. THERES ALREADY MASS AMOUNTS OF GENETIC TESTING ON JEWISH DNA. THATS NOT SOMETHING U CAN HIDE.. AND GUESS WHAT, IT ALL TRACES BACK TO THE LEVANT REGION LOL

AND YES. IN HOME KITS ARE ALSO RESTRICTED IN COUNTRIES SUCH AS FRANCE.. FOR SECURITY REASONS. U CAN STILL ORDER A 23ANDME IN ISRAEL, ITS NOT OUTRIGHT BANNED... YOUR FAR OUT CONSPIRACY THEORIES ARE CLASSIC ANTI SEMITIC TROPES. MAKES U LOOK VERY DUMB.

BTW IVE HAD A TEST DONE.. 80% NORTH AFRICA/WEST ASIA (MIDDLE-EASTERN)

STAY MAD HOE
 
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