Religion/Spirituality The Intelligent Design/God/Theism Thread

[blackzeus]

I appreciate what you doing, but this thread's confusing so far.

What don't you understand? Let me know and I'll break it down for you as best as I can

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I consider myself to believe in Intelligent Design to a degree but I think a lot of the specific people and labels involved in terms of deities and their role in the development of the Universe is largely story-telling and fables.

And, actually, Logic/Algorithms play a sizable role in my belief system in terms of the intricate order of the Universe. Although I waver a bit from time to time on this..I also think that randomness/chaos can also be seen as a part of the design just as much as it can be seen as proof of the alternative.

None of this matters.

Your beliefs are not substantiated with any evidence besides sheer faith.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm just completing the basic arguments against ID breh, people try to simplify ID as believing in an Abrahaimac figure, when to the contrary, ID is so much more complicated and well thought out

Theres nothing elegant about intelligent design.

In fact, your definition of "intelligence" is itself enough to deep-six anything further you trot out

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

None of this matters.

Your beliefs are not substantiated with any evidence besides sheer faith.

You may be right. Youre mere existence is evidence that contradicts Intelligent Design.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You may be right. Youre mere existence is evidence that contradicts Intelligent Design.

Not even sure if this was a terrible attempt at a joke, but misunderstanding how biology works isn't a substitute to insert deistic explanations

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Not even sure if this was a terrible attempt at a joke, but misunderstanding how biology works isn't a substitute to insert deistic explanations

None of this matters. Your beliefs are not substantiated with any evidence besides sheer faith.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

None of this matters. Your beliefs are not substantiated with any evidence besides sheer faith.

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Holy fukk you're losing out here in the cognition department.

 

[Fervid]

 

[blackzeus]

You may be right. Youre mere existence is evidence that contradicts Intelligent Design.

While that post was etherous, let's not stoop to their level of ad hominems, let their own ignorance judge them

 

[blackzeus]

Not even sure if this was a terrible attempt at a joke, but misunderstanding how biology works isn't a substitute to insert deistic explanations

Ok breh, let's get to it, please explain how biology disproves intelligent design, let's build

 

[blackzeus]

Theres nothing elegant about intelligent design.

In fact, your definition of "intelligence" is itself enough to deep-six anything further you trot out

Interesting seeing as I have never defined intelligence in any of our discussions so far, but go ahead and continue with the ad hominems, this thread is for people who have something to contribute for/against the argument in a constructive manner

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

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Holy fukk you're losing out here in the cognition department.

There was plenty of information in here that "supports" the "belief" in intelligent design of some sort. I dont claim to know because I do not think its provable one way or another as true...therefore, under the JTB basic foundation of what knowledge is, I cannot say it is true or false. Hence me saying I simply believe in intelligent design of some sort. The cause or source of that design, to me, cannot be determined at the given time..perhaps ever. There is enough order and intricacies within the order that lends credence to the theory that the universe hasnt come to be simply via happenstance..and Im not talking about just biology or on Earth. Through science and mathematics, there has also been many patterns and systems on different planets, galaxies etc that further justifies my belief. Im not quite sure why you get so frazzled by anyone claiming anything other than atheism or agnosticism but it's not really my concern. In fact, Im not even sure what exactly my religious/spiritual/supernatural "label" would be..I align philosophically to Taoism in many ways but I do not adhere to their religious rituals or a portion of their beliefs that stray too far from the "basics".

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Interesting seeing as I have never defined intelligence in any of our discussions so far, but go ahead and continue with the ad hominems, this thread is for people who have something to contribute for/against the argument in a constructive manner

you've posted over 100 messages in this thread about intelligent design...YET...don't seem to understand the central point in your thesis isn't even defined...and you're OK with that

 

[blackzeus]

None of this matters.

Your beliefs are not substantiated with any evidence besides sheer faith.

Please refer to post # 4 and explain to me the odds of the rate of the expansion of the universe at a fixed ratio of 1:1055 all over the universe being a chance occurrence, please explain why the astrophysicist Fred Hoyle is wrong and you @Napoleon is correct

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

There was plenty of information in here that "supports" the "belief" in intelligent design of some sort. I dont claim to know because I do not think its provable one way or another as true...therefore, under the JTB basic foundation of what knowledge is, I cannot say it is true or false. Hence me saying I simply believe in intelligent design of some sort. The cause or source of that design, to me, cannot be determined at the given time..perhaps ever. There is enough order and intricacies within the order that lends credence to the theory that the universe hasnt come to be simply via happenstance..and Im not talking about just biology or on Earth. Through science and mathematics, there has also been many patterns and systems on different planets, galaxies etc that further justifies my belief. Im not quite sure why you get so frazzled by anyone claiming anything other than atheism or agnosticism but it's not really my concern. In fact, Im not even sure what exactly my religious/spiritual/supernatural "label" would be..but I align philosophically to Taoism in many ways but I do not adhere to their religious rituals or a portion of their beliefs that stray too far from the "basics".

Too bad.

You claim to believe it and assert it as true. You don't get to dance when pressed to actually substantiate your argument.

If you don't know, then leave it there. Don't insert bullshyt in lieu of that.