The importance of the number 0

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I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about now friend.

Are you saying that the number 10 = 0?

Let's say you and I are counting points in a basketball game. We both count 5 buckets. I count 5 points, you count 10. So in this case, my 5 = your 10 right? 5 baskets is 5 baskets, regardless of how you count them, by 1's, 2's, 3.14's, tick marks, whatever.

No matter how you count it, what we know as the number 5 is the amount of baskets that were made, right? I say that to say this... numbers are a tool. We use them to measure quantities of units. Numbers are a mathematical alphabet, if you will. Certain symbols represent certain sounds, we all them letters. Certain symbols represent certain values, we call them numbers.

So now let's consider counting time. Time is infinite, would you agree. Yet we say 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11

or easier seen

01
02
03
04
05
06
07
08
09
10
11

So after 0, we started at 1 again, in the ones place right? Because that's how our number system works. Decimal. Based on 10 digits. But 10 doesn't represent the end of our counting, even though we're starting back at 1. So did that 0 really represent the end? It represented the end of a set in our number system but in terms of time, what we're counting, that "0" doesn't exist and there is no "starting back at one". Time just keeps going.


As you said:

Once we go past 9, we begin a ten's column

But what is really beginning? Nothing relative. Just a reference for us, but in reality, what our numbers represent as "beginning" is actually "continuing".

"We" begin a tens column but time knows no such boundaries.
 

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Let's say you and I are counting points in a basketball game. We both count 5 buckets. I count 5 points, you count 10. So in this case, my 5 = your 10 right? 5 baskets is 5 baskets, regardless of how you count them, by 1's, 2's, 3.14's, tick marks, whatever.

No matter how you count it, what we know as the number 5 is the amount of baskets that were made, right? I say that to say this... numbers are a tool. We use them to measure quantities of units. Numbers are a mathematical alphabet, if you will. Certain symbols represent certain sounds, we all them letters. Certain symbols represent certain values, we call them numbers.

So now let's consider counting time. Time is infinite, would you agree. Yet we say 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11

or easier seen

01
02
03
04
05
06
07
08
09
10
11

So after 0, we started at 1 again, in the ones place right? Because that's how our number system works. Decimal. Based on 10 digits. But 10 doesn't represent the end of our counting, even though we're starting back at 1. So did that 0 really represent the end? It represented the end of a set in our number system but in terms of time, what we're counting, that "0" doesn't exist and there is no "starting back at one". Time just keeps going.


As you said:



But what is really beginning? Nothing relative. Just a reference for us, but in reality, what our numbers represent as "beginning" is actually "continuing".

"We" begin a tens column but time knows no such boundaries.


But what if I don't choose base 10 to represent counting friend?

If I use tick marks as Brown Pride said?

& & & & & & & & & & &

That's 11.
 

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i'm derailing anything, i just challenged you on what you said. if you're gonna come on a public forum and make dubious proclamations don't start whining when someone calls you out on them.

as far the big bang goes, i don't need to educate you on it, you need to educate yourself. there's heaps of information out there regarding what it was and the evidence for it. science doesn't have an explanation for the cause of the big bang. there are plenty of ideas (quantum fluctuation, brane's colliding, a white hole, computer simulation, etc) but they're purely speculative at this point and science treats them as such. ultimately, i don't know what the cause was and i'm totally comfortable saying that without defaulting to giving credit to some omnipotent, atemporal, sentient being for the universe's existence.

Yes, science may treat them as such but if you ask the average person what the big bang is, they'll say it's how the universe started but in reality it's not. If someone is going to state that's how something started they need to point to the source otherwise you're just leading the people in the wrong direction. The tree of life in the kabbalah is another example. It starts up top at the mental Crown(knowledge) and works it's way down to the completion of the kingdom(Zero or Cipher), the physical world. In order for a sandwich to appear before you, a thought must occur in your mind that says "I want a sandwich". From that point on, you go through the mathematics of life until you which 9 or born. Once you hit 9(or in other words put the other piece of bread on top), the sandwich is now complete(0) and you can proceed to enjoy it. Life is about cycles. Until someone can prove the origin of the big bang this is what it is.

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Also, time doesn't exist in an objective sense. There is no counting time in a purely objective sense since it is merely always done in a subjective frame of reference.

The past, present and future have occurred and have not occurred, as well as currently occurring. I find that much more fascinating.
 

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A universe that is finite in size but did not begin with a singularity is the result of one attempt to combine aspects of general relativity and quantum mechanics. The history of this no-boundary universe in imaginary time is like the surface of Earth, with the Big Bang equivalent to Earth’s North Pole and the size of the universe increasing with imaginary time as you head south toward the equator.
A proposal first advanced by Stephen Hawking and Jim Hartle, the no-boundary universe is one in which the universe does not start with a singularity. It uses American physicist Richard Feynman’s proposal to treat quantum mechanics as a “sum over histories,” meaning that a particle does not have one history in space-time but instead follows every possible path to reach its current state. By summing these histories—a difficult process that must be done by treating time as imaginary—you can find the probability that the particle passes through a particular point.

Hawking and Hartle then wedded this idea to general relativity’s view that gravity is just a consequence of curved space-time. Under classical general relativity, the universe either has to be infinitely old or had to have started at a singularity. But Hawking and Hartle’s proposal raises a third possibility—that the universe is finite but had no initial singularity to produce a boundary (thus the name).

The geometry of the no-boundary universe would be similar to the geometry of the surface of a sphere, except it would have four dimensions instead of two. You can travel completely around Earth’s surface, for instance, without ever running into an edge. In this analogy, unfolding in imaginary time, Earth’s North Pole represents the Big Bang, marking the start of the universe. (But just as the North Pole is not a singularity, neither is the Big Bang).
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So it starts with 0? How would you know about the 0(person, place or thing) without knowledge(1)? Also, why did you keep going into 11 and 12 then stop at 0 again? Not hating, just curious to how you came up with this.

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One (1) can never know no-thing, which is zero (0), but for one (1) to doubt zero is to doubt it's own existence. How could 1 ever doubt it is? It cannot, it is one.

The reason to continue past ten is the number one must become itself again 11, obtain knew knowledge 12, and reemerge as it's true self 0 which is represented as 13, the hidden number. 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 0
 
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The gestation period of the AFRIKAN elephant is 13 months. Use supreme algebraic wizardry to turn that around and you get what? 31. Which is the number of ice cream flavors at what? Baskin Robbins. Now who does the baskin in the sun, blackman? Only melanated Hebrew MOORS. And who does all the robbins? The white DEVIL.

This exemplifies the KNOWLEDGE and OVERSTANDING that Ali Baba (ARM LEG INDEXFINGER, BLACK ASS BLACK AFRIKAN) is the true originator of the galactic superconductor. The original black Peruvians had deep metaphysified philomathematical wisdom that these CACs cannot comprehend. The ancient ones were SMARTER than today's un-melanated culture vultures.

And the number zero is shaped just like the MOTHER WHEEL. The Honorable Minister Inspecta Deck will use its rayguns to fry these Caucroaches soon enough. KNOWLEDGE is POWER.
 

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The gestation period of the AFRIKAN elephant is 13 months. Use supreme algebraic wizardry to turn that around and you get what? 31. Which is the number of ice cream flavors at what? Baskin Robbins. Now who does the baskin in the sun, blackman? Only melanated Hebrew MOORS. And who does all the robbins? The white DEVIL.

This exemplifies the KNOWLEDGE and OVERSTANDING that Ali Baba (ARM LEG INDEXFINGER, BLACK ASS BLACK AFRIKAN) is the true originator of the galactic superconductor. The original black Peruvians had deep metaphysified philomathematical wisdom that these CACs cannot comprehend. The ancient ones were SMARTER than today's un-melanated culture vultures.

And the number zero is shaped just like the MOTHER WHEEL. The Honorable Minister Inspecta Deck will use its rayguns to fry these Caucroaches soon enough. KNOWLEDGE is POWER.
this shyt was kinda creative but....


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i just got done watching a hebrew israelite vid and i couldn't help but think them niccas have been infiltrated by them ppl to just keep them arguing and debating each other. then i jump on here and see a nicca talk about ice cream.

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One (1) can never know no-thing, which is zero (0), but for one (1) to doubt zero is to doubt it's own existence. How could 1 ever doubt it is? It cannot, it is one.

The reason to continue past ten is the number one must become itself again 11, obtain knew knowledge 12, and reemerge as it's true self 0 which is represented as 13, the hidden number. 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 0

That's the thing though sun. 0 isn't no-thing it's some-thing lol. When the 1 is added to the 0 or the 9, it returns back to the origin, which is 1. 0 represents something which exists and is complete. It becomes known when the 1(knowledge) is added on aka 10. 10 = Knowledge added onto the cipher. The cipher(0) is 360 degrees, it's complete, it's some-thing but now it has more being added onto it. 720 doesn't make the cipher(0) any more complete. It's just added degrees.
 

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Also, time doesn't exist in an objective sense. There is no counting time in a purely objective sense since it is merely always done in a subjective frame of reference.

The past, present and future have occurred and have not occurred, as well as currently occurring. I find that much more fascinating.

Explain this.
 

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That's the thing though sun. 0 isn't no-thing it's some-thing lol. When the 1 is added to the 0 or the 9, it returns back to the origin, which is 1. 0 represents something which exists and is complete. It becomes known when the 1(knowledge) is added on aka 10. 10 = Knowledge added onto the cipher. The cipher(0) is 360 degrees, it's complete, it's some-thing but now it has more being added onto it. 720 doesn't make the cipher(0) any more complete. It's just added degrees.

one doesn't know it's was already ten until he returns back to himself, eleven, thus gains even more knowledge from the attainment of knew-knowledge, twelve, the year before sexual attraction, zero as a teen, the original point of creation.
 

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Everything said sounds like it would apply more to the number 1 than 0. 0 literally represents the lack of a person, place, or thing. If you have 0 pens you have no pens. I feel that 0 would represent the spiritual world in the sense that the concept exists but can't be seen.
 

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The gestation period of the AFRIKAN elephant is 13 months. Use supreme algebraic wizardry to turn that around and you get what? 31. Which is the number of ice cream flavors at what? Baskin Robbins. Now who does the baskin in the sun, blackman? Only melanated Hebrew MOORS. And who does all the robbins? The white DEVIL.

This exemplifies the KNOWLEDGE and OVERSTANDING that Ali Baba (ARM LEG INDEXFINGER, BLACK ASS BLACK AFRIKAN) is the true originator of the galactic superconductor. The original black Peruvians had deep metaphysified philomathematical wisdom that these CACs cannot comprehend. The ancient ones were SMARTER than today's un-melanated culture vultures.

And the number zero is shaped just like the MOTHER WHEEL. The Honorable Minister Inspecta Deck will use its rayguns to fry these Caucroaches soon enough. KNOWLEDGE is POWER.
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