The importance of the number 0

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Oh word? :lupe:

:heh: Nah, breh. The funny thing is you're agreeing with the OP. Time is infinite. Any measurement has the potential to be infinite. But we put "caps" on time when counting. Time goes on but when we get to 9, that is the maximum value in our ones place so we must begin from 0 again.

So agree, this "0" doesn't really exist. :lupe:


My apologies but I don't understand the counterpoint you made.

the 10^n 's place is human created symbols to better facilitate representing numbers

It's why I can say 10^6 = 1,000,000 = //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// [and so on on a million times].

You're getting caught up in the symbols and forgetting the concepts.

I'll put it to you this way: If I came at you saying that all dogs are God and my argument was that dog spelled backwards is god, what would say?
 

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The 0 or the cipher is 360 degrees. 360 degrees is completion. 3+6+0=9

Four 90 degree angles of a square = 360. Three 120 degrees of a triangle is 360 degrees. Five 72 degrees(Arm Leg Leg Arm Head) is 360.

Anything after 360 is just adding on to that which is complete.
 

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there's nothing to add to this thread. there's no mathematics expert over here. math is not about opinion. but since there are math expert over here... carry on...
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1 + 9 = 10 correct?

1 + 0 = what?

Peace

You're getting caught up in meaningless symbols and forgetting the underlying concepts, which is convenient.

Here is your answers conceptually.

let & = 1 unit

Therefore, answer to question one ( & + &&&&&&&&&) = &&&&&&&&&&
Answer to question two (&) = &

Nothing symbolic about that.
 

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The 0 or the cipher is 360 degrees. 360 degrees is completion. 3+6+0=9

Four 90 degree angles of a square = 360. Three 120 degrees of a triangle is 360 degrees. Five 72 degrees(Arm Leg Leg Arm Head) is 360.

Anything after 360 is just adding on to that which is complete.


Congratulations, you seem to understand 5th grade addition and middle school geometry.
 

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My apologies but I don't understand the counterpoint you made.

the 10^n 's place is human created symbols to better facilitate representing numbers

It's why I can say 10^6 = 1,000,000 = //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// [and so on on a million times].

You're getting caught up in the symbols and forgetting the concepts.

I'll put it to you this way: If I came at you saying that all dogs are God and my argument was that dog spelled backwards is god, what would say?

0 is a symbol. Thought that was what this thread was about. 0.

0 represents the end of a set but you, yourself, has already admitted it's not the end.

I really don't understand where the disagreement is coming from.
 

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0 is a symbol. Thought that was what this thread was about. 0.

0 represents the end of a set but you, yourself, has already admitted it's not the end.

I really don't understand where the disagreement is coming from.


Do I have to draw it out for you to understand? I will if you wish.

0 in the number 10 (i.e. 9+1) means zero times 10^0 ( 0 * 1), the number 1 in the number 10 means one times 10^1 (1 * 10).

Am I missing something here? I fail to see what makes this "deep"? Do you care to explain it better please?
 

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I suspect you're serious so i'll actually respond.

A new day is nothing more than the result of one ball going around another ball. There is no "magic" in that rotation, there is no "0", or any other nonsensical math you keep trying to inject into things. Of course there is a beginning and an end to task, we measure most things in time so there will always be a start, middle and end. This has NOTHING to do with the concept of zero or base ten mathematics.

What do you mean by "there's no 0"?. I'll use the baby example. 9 months for a baby to be born. Once it it is born it is complete, he or her is a member of the human family. Everything from that point on that he/she goes through is just adding on, this is where you get your 11, 12s etc. Said baby will look listen and observe and born new ideas to him or herself to add on to self as they get older. This is why it's important to be aware of what the babies are doing because they will soak up everything looking for knowledge but not everything is good for them. You see?
 

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Congratulations, you seem to understand 5th grade addition and middle school geometry.

Leave out the unnecessary insults, you are just making yourself look bad.

When we complete a task at hand, we start back at the beginning of a new task and start anew. It's nothing "magical" or "crazy" about it, it's just the way life goes. Some people may want not want to have children or bring new ideas to the plate but the reality is if you never came out of your mother because you was still building your body for who knows how long after 9 months or "I just keep going on", you would not be here today. Actual fact. Everything goes from Knowledge to born and born back to knowledge. The cycle of life

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idk......... Ancient African philosophy - states... 0-9 -- but it's an infinite loop. The symbol nfr was in egypt and meant beautiful and the number 0. Other people in AFrica used symbols to describe zero. In ancient India , the first book for the rule on Zero was called : The Opening of the Universe :usure:

They way they spoke about numbers and the universe back then was deeper and more complete and wasn't considered smart dumb shyt. Being able to do advanced algorithums and calculus is very basic retarded shyt in the grand scheme of things - and our emphasis on that is one of the reason y there is a good chance that if we come across other beings in space we will be pushed to the side.
One of the illest things dude wrote in that book was : zero divided by zero is zero:mindblown: (this was after indians were black, so the indian posters should be proud of this, as it is one of the illest things ever written in history. Basically zero was assigned a value... (well african already gave it a value thousands of years prior, but it's sorta like Columbus discovering America) world runs on a infinite loop.

Just to even come up with that and the other shyt that asian and african thinkers came up with is > anything we're talking about today. typeusername is right, but only based on our limited understandings. A calculator doesn't assign a value to Zero - so we don't either. We don't either because there is knowledge about the universe, astronomy, life, and infinity that you have to think about to even be able to accept these concepts.

It's not black in regards to race, but black in that the color of carbon is black - all the organism we know about are carbon based.

Things that produce our darkness and darkness of hair are linked to reproduction in humans. And are the key to the continuing, driving, and improving of our species.

I know this sounds crazy, but there is melanin in the universe. It's present in the chemicals and matter that make the universe... refereed to as Nothing when in reality there is something there.... just like with 0. There is no space in space. 0 isn't nothing either. Even Zero point energy also called quantum vacuum zero-point energy, has energy... Zero =/= none or nothing.The universe consists of about 70 percent dark energy, 25 percent dark matter and five percent ordinary matter (which is also dark). Zero-point energy has the desired property of driving an accelerated expansion, and thus having the requisite properties of dark energy, but to an absurdly greater degree than required, i.e. 120 orders of magnitude. According to late 90s studies.... when smart dumb nikkas have been saying it since forever. Placed those lessons and other knowledge in 120 lessons later on.

I don't really know what this means but "Zero-point energy is the energy that remains when all other energy is removed from a system. ."
 

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Do I have to draw it out for you to understand? I will if you wish.

0 in the number 10 (i.e. 9+1) means zero times 10^0 ( 0 * 1), the number 1 in the number 10 means one times 10^1 (1 * 10).

Am I missing something here? I fail to see what makes this "deep"? Do you care to explain it better please?

If you're counting, is 10 the last number? The end? No?

So 0 doesn't necessarily represent the end does it?

That's what I'm saying. I'm not even sure what you're saying anymore but I don't really see how anyone can disagree with that. :yeshrug:
 

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idk......... Ancient African philosophy - states... 0-9 -- but it's an infinite loop. The symbol nfr was in egypt and meant beautiful and the number 0. Other people in AFrica used symbols to describe zero. In ancient India , the first book for the rule on Zero was called : The Opening of the Universe :usure:

They way they spoke about numbers and the universe back then was deeper and more complete and wasn't considered smart dumb shyt. Being able to do advanced algorithums and calculus is very basic retarded shyt in the grand scheme of things - and our emphasis on that is one of the reason y there is a good chance that if we come across other beings in space we will be pushed to the side.
One of the illest things dude wrote in that book was : zero divided by zero is zero:mindblown: (this was after indians were black, so the indian posters should be proud of this, as it is one of the illest things ever written in history. Basically zero was assigned a value... (well african already gave it a value thousands of years prior, but it's sorta like Columbus discovering America) world runs on a infinite loop.

Just to even come up with that and the other shyt that asian and african thinkers came up with is > anything we're talking about today. typeusername is right, but only based on our limited understandings. A calculator doesn't assign a value to Zero - so we don't either. We don't either because there is knowledge about the universe, astronomy, life, and infinity that you have to think about to even be able to accept these concepts.

It's not black in regards to race, but black in that the color of carbon is black - all the organism we know about are carbon based.

Things that produce our darkness and darkness of hair are linked to reproduction in humans. And are the key to the continuing, driving, and improving of our species.

I know this sounds crazy, but there is melanin in the universe. It's present in the chemicals and matter that make the universe... refereed to as Nothing when in reality there is something there.... just like with 0. There is no space in space. 0 isn't nothing either. Even Zero point energy also called quantum vacuum zero-point energy, has energy... Zero =/= none or nothing.The universe consists of about 70 percent dark energy, 25 percent dark matter and five percent ordinary matter (which is also dark). Zero-point energy has the desired property of driving an accelerated expansion, and thus having the requisite properties of dark energy, but to an absurdly greater degree than required, i.e. 120 orders of magnitude. According to late 90s studies.... when smart dumb nikkas have been saying it since forever. Placed those lessons and other knowledge in 120 lessons later on.

I don't really know what this means but "Zero-point energy is the energy that remains when all other energy is removed from a system. ."

Nice add on. Props for bringing up the dark energy and dark matter point. Can't detect dark matter unless you look at it's gravitational pull on other objects. Dark Matter pulls in, Dark Energy expands. The ups and downs in life that is needed to born a better person. Someone who never goes through hell unless taught correctly won't come out right. Yin Yang, the opposites, which are found all throughout the universe.
 

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If you're counting, is 10 the last number? The end? No?

So 0 doesn't necessarily represent the end does it?

That's what I'm saying. I'm not even sure what you're saying anymore but I don't really see how anyone can disagree with that. :yeshrug:


I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about now friend.

Are you saying that the number 10 = 0?
 

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Can you prove the big bang is the origin? And what caused this big bang(The unseen god maybe?)? Do you know? If so, make your knowledge born not just to us but the world. If not, like I said, keep it moving cause atm you're not adding anything to the thread and are derailing it when there are people who are actually curious to what I say.

To the others who are adding on. More questions to think about. Where did we come from? Did we just pop out of nowhere or did we come from our parents? Can you get something from nothing? 0+0=what?

Peace

i'm derailing anything, i just challenged you on what you said. if you're gonna come on a public forum and make dubious proclamations don't start whining when someone calls you out on them.

as far the big bang goes, i don't need to educate you on it, you need to educate yourself. there's heaps of information out there regarding what it was and the evidence for it. science doesn't have an explanation for the cause of the big bang. there are plenty of ideas (quantum fluctuation, brane's colliding, a white hole, computer simulation, etc) but they're purely speculative at this point and science treats them as such. ultimately, i don't know what the cause was and i'm totally comfortable saying that without defaulting to giving credit to some omnipotent, atemporal, sentient being for the universe's existence.
 

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I suspect you're serious so i'll actually respond.

A new day is nothing more than the result of one ball going around another ball. There is no "magic" in that rotation, there is no "0", or any other nonsensical math you keep trying to inject into things. Of course there is a beginning and an end to task, we measure most things in time so there will always be a start, middle and end. This has NOTHING to do with the concept of zero or base ten mathematics.

We set these parameters with our minds... these task are what we give ourselves, but really the days go on regardless if we do them or not...

I guess this is gonna come off as smart dumb, but here's a few corrections for you :

1) "A new day is nothing more than the result of one ball going around another ball ": No, a new day is only the result of the earth's spin and it's relation to the other ball...... the Year is what reflects the ball going around the other ball but that 150 kilometers out leaves enough space for the earth to tilt enough and provide seasons that go in order and rotate. The years go on and on..... Everything is on rotation. Nothing stops resets and all the shyt we put up in our minds to make it seem that was are an illusion. There is no magic, as u stated, but things are just measure in time, starts, stops and other random bs- because that's what we made up --- those things are as valid as the concept of god and the holy ghost - it's just that those things seem real and god seems like it's the only thing made up. We see things that "aren't true - like energy lost (dying, blowing shyt up, etc) Energy is never lost, time is never lost, nothing ever stops, and numbers never end.
2) "This has NOTHING to do with the concept of zero or base ten mathematics": Well, Buddha says "“What we think, we become.” Why would we wanna become limited?? These number are only hear because we think them. The rules for them are only there because we made them. Everything is connected to the concept of zero... only in the sense that without an understanding of it you don't understand that there is no "nothing". As mentioned first book for the rule on Zero was called : The Opening of the Universe saying zero divided by zero is zero. Understanding that there is a value to zero. The concept of zero makes this an invalid statement " This has NOTHING to do with the concept of zero or base ten mathematics" Some buddist think that 0= voidness but that voidness isn't nothingness but that "all things lack intrinsic reality, intrinsic objectivity, intrinsic identity or intrinsic referentiality. Lacking such static essence or substance does not make them not exist —- it makes them thoroughly relative" It's difficult to explain on here, but 10 is just the first number that isn't 0 that contains the number 0 it all starts over like the way I described the Earth's rotation and is opposite of the way you described the balls going around the other balls.
 
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